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Post by beavaristotle on Nov 21, 2021 18:08:58 GMT -8
I just want to talk football. Byeđ if you just wanted to talk football what are you doing on this site đ |
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Post by four2itus on Nov 21, 2021 18:34:24 GMT -8
Lol at changing the Redskins name, but not even aware of what the Bills stand for.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 21, 2021 19:03:57 GMT -8
Everybody calls it the Civil War and nobody cares... This thread is exactly the last thing in the universe we need to waste energy on.  |
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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 21, 2021 19:15:18 GMT -8
Everybody calls it the Civil War and nobody cares... This thread is exactly the last thing in the universe we need to waste energy on. And three separate posters all with less than 10 posts to their name jumping in on THIS thread in particular to opine on their feelings about snowflakes and/or wokesters... With nary a post about the Beavers or football in general to their name. Jesus. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 21, 2021 19:17:50 GMT -8
And three separate posters all with less than 10 posts to their name jumping in on THIS thread in particular to opine on their feelings about snowflakes and/or wokesters... With nary a post about the Beavers or football in general to their name. Jesus. Well, another way to look at it is to realize if new, they may have missed all the previous discussions and re-hashing of the subject. You know me, always the first one to give the benefit of the doubt! WaitâŠwhat??? |
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Post by sparty on Nov 21, 2021 19:49:19 GMT -8
Lol at changing the Redskins name, but not even aware of what the Bills stand for. Buffalo Bill, During the American Civil War, he served the Union from 1863 to the end of the war in 1865. Later he served as a civilian scout for the US Army during the Indian Wars, receiving the Medal of Honor in 1872.
Ooops! Bye, bye Bills!
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 21, 2021 20:06:14 GMT -8
And three separate posters all with less than 10 posts to their name jumping in on THIS thread in particular to opine on their feelings about snowflakes and/or wokesters... With nary a post about the Beavers or football in general to their name. Jesus. Yeah itâs highly amusing that some folks appear to care more about this âissueâ than the actual game. Whatever fires your rocket I guess. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Nov 21, 2021 20:51:25 GMT -8
The real issue is 'civil war' is a term beyond just the American conflict in the 1860s. "A civil war is a war in which parties within the same culture, society, or nationality fight against each other." Which is exactly what this is - Oregonians fighting amongst each other. Nothing more need be read into it. 1000% THIS!!! |
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Post by sparty on Nov 22, 2021 6:54:56 GMT -8
And three separate posters all with less than 10 posts to their name jumping in on THIS thread in particular to opine on their feelings about snowflakes and/or wokesters... With nary a post about the Beavers or football in general to their name. Jesus. Yeah itâs highly amusing that some folks appear to care more about this âissueâ than the actual game. Whatever fires your rocket I guess. Rockets are used in war.  |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 22, 2021 7:29:55 GMT -8
Yeah itâs highly amusing that some folks appear to care more about this âissueâ than the actual game. Whatever fires your rocket I guess. Rockets are used in war. Indeed. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 22, 2021 7:50:05 GMT -8
Rockets are used in war. Indeed. Do you happen to know the name of that site where I can post my résumé and look for a job? |
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Post by beaverstever on Nov 22, 2021 8:33:27 GMT -8
My thoughts have changed a bit on this dead horse.
First, Civil Wars are typically really terrible and tragic. So the modest equivalence of divided houses in a college rivalry isnât exactly a real strong equivalence. Someone who actually has suffered through a civil war would probably roll their eyes at the reference to a sporting event. It strikes me as akin to when a football player calls themselves a âsoldierâ or a âwarriorâ, and soldiers actually risking their lives in battle also find the equivalence as annoying, at minimum. So it doesnât feel like virtual signaling to me (even if it originally was rooted in it), it feels like grown ups realizing itâs a little over the top to be used as a branding term for a sporting event.
Secondly, the universities simply donât use it as an official name. I donât know when it ever became the âofficialâ name, but Iâm confident it was long after it was generally called the Civil War by people/media. Nothing stops anybody from calling it that, itâs just not how itâs marketed and merchandised by the Universities. Thatâs fine - IIRC, it wasnât a moniker they started in the first place anyway. Itâs still the Civil War game to us fans, officially or not.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 22, 2021 10:11:10 GMT -8
So every writer, fan, coach and media outlet is using the word "formerly" about the in state game this week. As they are calling it the civil war but they are not calling it the civil war officially because they put the word "formerly" in front of it so it is okay? So the name of this event has not even diminished a bit. I find it amusing.
Example in O-live"
Now we have seven days to look forward to the game "formerly" known as the Civil War.
In Television:
"Big rivalry game this week in the state "formerly" known as the Civil War"
"Tickets are a hot item in the game "formerly" known as the Civil War
Clearly, the decision by OSU and UO to discard the traditional "Civil War" reference for OSU/UO athletic events, was reflexive and not fully thought-through. Whatever anyone thinks of that term, it served a functional purpose - to provide a unique, distinctive reference to this unique intra-state Oregon sports rivalry. Having discontinued the formal recognition of "Civil War", they've had well over a year to replace it with another unique, distinctive reference and - nothing. "Rivalry Game" is worthless. It's not unique and it's not distinctive and therefore it's not a serious replacement. I wasn't involved in the adoption of the "Civil War" reference for the OSU/UO rivalry, I just inherited it. If another suitable term is chosen, and I like it, I suppose I'll inherit that one too. But in the absence of a real replacement, their grace period for no replacement has expired. The term reverts back to "Civil War" and if people who feel strongly about it object, they should come up with a serious replacement. |
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Post by irimi on Nov 22, 2021 11:08:08 GMT -8
So every writer, fan, coach and media outlet is using the word "formerly" about the in state game this week. As they are calling it the civil war but they are not calling it the civil war officially because they put the word "formerly" in front of it so it is okay? So the name of this event has not even diminished a bit. I find it amusing.  Â
Example in O-live"
Now we have seven days to look forward to the game "formerly" known as the Civil War.
In Television:
"Big rivalry game this week in the state "formerly" known as the Civil War"
"Tickets are a hot item in the game "formerly" known as the Civil War
Clearly, the decision by OSU and UO to discard the traditional "Civil War" reference for OSU/UO athletic events, was reflexive and not fully thought-through. Whatever anyone thinks of that term, it served a functional purpose - to provide a unique, distinctive reference to this unique intra-state Oregon sports rivalry. Having discontinued the formal recognition of "Civil War", they've had well over a year to replace it with another unique, distinctive reference and - nothing. "Rivalry Game" is worthless. It's not unique and it's not distinctive and therefore it's not a serious replacement. I wasn't involved in the adoption of the "Civil War" reference for the OSU/UO rivalry, I just inherited it. If another suitable term is chosen, and I like it, I suppose I'll inherit that one too. But in the absence of a real replacement, their grace period for no replacement has expired. The term reverts back to "Civil War" and if people who feel strongly about it object, they should come up with a serious replacement. Nice post. I suspect the universities recognize that the change will take yearsâa generation or moreâbefore the nickname falls out of use. I agree that a replacement should have been proposed right away and the lack of an official name encourages the retention of the Civil War moniker. Weâll see what time brings. |
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Post by ag87 on Nov 22, 2021 14:08:12 GMT -8
Welcome to the second annual Willamette Bowl. Oregon State is undefeated in the game. There are still some legal questions from George Fox and Willamette U. Western Oregon was ruled to far away from the Willamette to have a claim to the name.
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