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Post by beavermd on Jul 14, 2021 10:23:16 GMT -8
He was certainly on an upward trajectory during the last month of the season. In the last five PAC12 series his BA was .413 (26 for 63). 45 catchers were drafted, including 37 either JC or 4-yr college. I thought that he might get picked in Rounds 15-20. So.... does he sign a 20K free agent deal...or come back? I'd come back if I was going to finish my degree. Otherwise, it's catcher crunch city on that team right now and again the coaches are going to have to work really hard to keep people together with all the competition in numbers. Claunch has his degree. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 14, 2021 10:41:06 GMT -8
If you recruit players who don't develop, you did not recruit well.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 14, 2021 12:09:49 GMT -8
Definitely. Claunch was sizzling hot over for several weeks later in the season, and I was impressed by his defensive improvement. I don’t know how much his first game, hand injury had to do with the early season problems, but I would take his last half of the season. He was certainly on an upward trajectory during the last month of the season. In the last five PAC12 series his BA was .413 (26 for 63). 45 catchers were drafted, including 37 either JC or 4-yr college. I thought that he might get picked in Rounds 15-20. So.... does he sign a 20K free agent deal...or come back? Is he going to be a first- or second-rounder next year? If not, and if he can find someone to sign him, I doubt that he returns. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 14, 2021 12:22:22 GMT -8
I too am wondering about player development. I really expected Claunch and Ober to be the studs of the team this past year, but they continued to show inconsistency at the plate. I don’t really know how to read it or explain it. I guess time will tell. Of the players with more than 100 ab's, Claunch led the team with a .305 ba. while playing the most physically demanding position. If he was inconsistent, where does that leave the rest? Claunch improved toward the end of the season, but he certainly didn't realize his full potential. Or if he did, it's short of the mark. Your question at the end is a very good point. The rest were even more disappointing. Kyler McMahon, Preston Jones, Casey...quite a few really. A lot of guys should've been ready to step into the limelight and produce day in and day out. And they weren't. Now is that a development problem or a quality problem? Who knows? |
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jul 14, 2021 19:29:34 GMT -8
Of the players with more than 100 ab's, Claunch led the team with a .305 ba. while playing the most physically demanding position. If he was inconsistent, where does that leave the rest? Claunch improved toward the end of the season, but he certainly didn't realize his full potential. Or if he did, it's short of the mark. Your question at the end is a very good point. The rest were even more disappointing. Kyler McMahon, Preston Jones, Casey...quite a few really. A lot of guys should've been ready to step into the limelight and produce day in and day out. And they weren't. Now is that a development problem or a quality problem? Who knows? I think it's a baseball problem. It's a tough sport. I plateaued at community college level, quickly realizing this was it for me. Some guys plateau at high school, others at the D1 level. Still more at rookie ball, advanced A, double A and so on. Casey is a good defender and base runner, but strikes out WAY too much to be an every day player at this level. I thank him for 2hat he has given the program and eagerly await his replacement, like has been done in baseball for a hundred years....lol |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Jul 14, 2021 20:08:12 GMT -8
If you recruit players who don't develop, you did not recruit well. Or, you're not good at developing players |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Jul 15, 2021 9:53:04 GMT -8
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 15, 2021 12:01:49 GMT -8
Bryant Salgado went to high school and junior college in Houston, so I could understand him being very happy to wind up in the Astros' organization. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 15, 2021 15:45:56 GMT -8
Big loss. Gonna miss him. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 16, 2021 14:28:40 GMT -8
Of the players with more than 100 ab's, Claunch led the team with a .305 ba. while playing the most physically demanding position. If he was inconsistent, where does that leave the rest? Claunch improved toward the end of the season, but he certainly didn't realize his full potential. Or if he did, it's short of the mark. Your question at the end is a very good point. The rest were even more disappointing. Kyler McMahon, Preston Jones, Casey...quite a few really. A lot of guys should've been ready to step into the limelight and produce day in and day out. And they weren't. Now is that a development problem or a quality problem? Who knows? Claunch hit .370 in the Pac-12, third best in the Pac-12 and best among catchers! How did he fall short of the mark? Adley Rutschman only hit .342 against Pac-12 pitching in 2018 and .260 in 2017. Logan Ice hit .235 in 2016, .297 in 2015 and .267 in 2014. Jake Rodriguez hit .207 in 2013 and .270 in 2012. Andrew Susac hit .268 in 2011 and .291 in 2010. Outside of Adley's 2019 run, the last regular catcher to hit better was Ryan Ortiz back in 2009. How did Claunch fall short of the mark? Did Adley fall short in 2017 and 2018? Logan Ice? Jake Rodriguez? Andrew Susac? Unreal! Zero errors on the season. Unreal! Oregon State scored 28 runs at Fort Worth. Claunch scored three and drove in three, all while playing 18 innings behind the plate on the June 6th, which is un-freaking-believable. Claunch had a bad spell in early March but was nails otherwise. Freaking nails. You can go another decade a not see another season close to the season that Claunch put up in 2021. Even though he is in the portal, I am really hoping that he comes back in 2022, because, as great as 2021 was, I feel like 2022 could be even better. |
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Post by beavermd on Jul 16, 2021 16:32:09 GMT -8
Claunch improved toward the end of the season, but he certainly didn't realize his full potential. Or if he did, it's short of the mark. Your question at the end is a very good point. The rest were even more disappointing. Kyler McMahon, Preston Jones, Casey...quite a few really. A lot of guys should've been ready to step into the limelight and produce day in and day out. And they weren't. Now is that a development problem or a quality problem? Who knows? Claunch hit .370 in the Pac-12, third best in the Pac-12 and best among catchers! How did he fall short of the mark? Adley Rutschman only hit .342 against Pac-12 pitching in 2018 and .260 in 2017. Logan Ice hit .235 in 2016, .297 in 2015 and .267 in 2014. Jake Rodriguez hit .207 in 2013 and .270 in 2012. Andrew Susac hit .268 in 2011 and .291 in 2010. Outside of Adley's 2019 run, the last regular catcher to hit better was Ryan Ortiz back in 2009. How did Claunch fall short of the mark? Did Adley fall short in 2017 and 2018? Logan Ice? Jake Rodriguez? Andrew Susac? Unreal! Zero errors on the season. Unreal! Oregon State scored 28 runs at Fort Worth. Claunch scored three and drove in three, all while playing 18 innings behind the plate on the June 6th, which is un-freaking-believable. Claunch had a bad spell in early March but was nails otherwise. Freaking nails. You can go another decade a not see another season close to the season that Claunch put up in 2021. Even though he is in the portal, I am really hoping that he comes back in 2022, because, as great as 2021 was, I feel like 2022 could be even better. My biggest criticism of Claunch at the plate is that he didn’t slug very well. He batted in the middle of the order all season, but only slugged .399. That’s terrible for a guy who is expected to be a run a producer. Now, I too hoped he’d return for next year, but we have talent in the pipeline and I’m confident we have our next great catcher coming to campus in the fall. |
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Post by beaver56 on Jul 16, 2021 17:26:22 GMT -8
Claunch improved toward the end of the season, but he certainly didn't realize his full potential. Or if he did, it's short of the mark. Your question at the end is a very good point. The rest were even more disappointing. Kyler McMahon, Preston Jones, Casey...quite a few really. A lot of guys should've been ready to step into the limelight and produce day in and day out. And they weren't. Now is that a development problem or a quality problem? Who knows? Claunch hit .370 in the Pac-12, third best in the Pac-12 and best among catchers! How did he fall short of the mark? Adley Rutschman only hit .342 against Pac-12 pitching in 2018 and .260 in 2017. Logan Ice hit .235 in 2016, .297 in 2015 and .267 in 2014. Jake Rodriguez hit .207 in 2013 and .270 in 2012. Andrew Susac hit .268 in 2011 and .291 in 2010. Outside of Adley's 2019 run, the last regular catcher to hit better was Ryan Ortiz back in 2009. How did Claunch fall short of the mark? Did Adley fall short in 2017 and 2018? Logan Ice? Jake Rodriguez? Andrew Susac? Unreal! Zero errors on the season. Unreal! Oregon State scored 28 runs at Fort Worth. Claunch scored three and drove in three, all while playing 18 innings behind the plate on the June 6th, which is un-freaking-believable. Claunch had a bad spell in early March but was nails otherwise. Freaking nails. You can go another decade a not see another season close to the season that Claunch put up in 2021. Even though he is in the portal, I am really hoping that he comes back in 2022, because, as great as 2021 was, I feel like 2022 could be even better. Zero errors? Do passed balls (of which there were many) not count as errors? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 16, 2021 18:30:14 GMT -8
Passed balls are not errors. They do figure into the earned/unearned run format, however.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 16, 2021 20:52:13 GMT -8
Passed balls are not errors. They do figure into the earned/unearned run format, however. They are not official errors, but they are errors in the minds of the coaches. |
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Post by irimi on Jul 17, 2021 9:15:58 GMT -8
Passed balls are not errors. They do figure into the earned/unearned run format, however. They are not official errors, but they are errors in the minds of the coaches. and the fans. |
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