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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 24, 2021 8:56:47 GMT -8
The good thing is, Mickelson's winning the PGA took a lot of the sting out of that loss. He has to be the first major winner with an OSU golf letterman/graduate on the bag.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on May 24, 2021 9:11:56 GMT -8
One can easily conclude from watching that video that he touched the base. Easily. That's the thing about calls this important: If you make that call and take two runs off the board, you better be 150% sure you got it right, absolutely dead certain that he missed the base, and it better be clearly obvious on replay. Watching the video, that's not possible. After watching the replay no one can say with absolute certainty he missed, or touched, that base. And if that's the case, you don't guess and make that call, in a game this important. To me, that play totally reeked of an umpire showing off, making a call to try to show others how smart and into the game he was. Other's mileage may vary, of course. The umpire did have a better angle from right behind the base than what is shown in the video. But, yes hopefully he was certain that he missed it. Any chance the umpire was influenced by the AZ duggout rising in unison and pointing it out to him? That smells a little fishy to me. Did he make the call immediately or "upon further review/second thought"? Go Beavs!!
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Post by billthebeav on May 24, 2021 9:22:56 GMT -8
The umpire did have a better angle from right behind the base than what is shown in the video. But, yes hopefully he was certain that he missed it. Any chance the umpire was influenced by the AZ duggout rising in unison and pointing it out to him? That smells a little fishy to me. Did he make the call immediately or "upon further review/second thought"? Go Beavs!! That is an appeal play. AZ would have stepped on the base with the ball in their possession and asked the umpire if he had touched the base.
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Post by mbabeav on May 24, 2021 9:53:31 GMT -8
It's a call where I couldn't tell with the one camera angle they kept showing. He had no reason to be in such a hurry to get to 2nd - two runs on the board regardless. I feel bad enough for him, but I just hate baserunning mistakes, two of our best outfielders hitting like .040 for their last 100 at bats, and the most confusing results coming out of the bullpen. There, got that off my chest, now go out and step all over the TOEJAMS!
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Post by osuft3 on May 24, 2021 10:12:24 GMT -8
Leave the toejams to the Germans. Chomp the 🎄
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Post by mbabeav on May 24, 2021 10:48:11 GMT -8
It's a call where I couldn't tell with the one camera angle they kept showing. He had no reason to be in such a hurry to get to 2nd - two runs on the board regardless. I feel bad enough for him, but I just hate baserunning mistakes, two of our best outfielders hitting like .040 for their last 100 at bats, and the most confusing results coming out of the bullpen. There, got that off my chest, now go out and step all over the TOEJAMS! OK, so maybe for me the Germans did bomb Pearl Harbor - Sink the Treeeeeez
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Post by bvogrande on May 24, 2021 17:36:26 GMT -8
obviously the az dugout helped sell it to the ump. Barney should've been yelling at Meckler to "get back here!"
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Post by charlie1934 on May 25, 2021 20:49:38 GMT -8
It's simple. Just step on the bag every time!
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Post by chinmusic on May 26, 2021 11:52:44 GMT -8
Winning baseball is about the proper execution of fundamentals and Meckler was in trouble when he failed to execute properly. I watch him - he's clean out of the box, runs the soft arc setting up the drive off the inside corner of the bag with his right foot and squaring off his track to 2B.
On this occasion, I think he lost focus of where he was positioned approaching 1B because he was watching the outfielders play the ball. Where the breakdown occured is when he took a path to the outfield side on the bag, over-ran the base and either brushed it or missed it completely.
His turn was too wide, and he was running on the wrong side of the base.
Run the bases square. Run a soft arc to give you the angle that produces a straight line to the next base. Hit the bags on the inside corner. A little surprising since Oregon State has a reputation among coaches and scouts of being an exceptional base running team.
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Post by irimi on May 26, 2021 12:23:44 GMT -8
I don't know how it works, but I think that Canham maybe now understands the value of coaching the fundamentals more.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 26, 2021 12:35:10 GMT -8
Winning baseball is about the proper execution of fundamentals and Meckler was in trouble when he failed to execute properly. I watch him - he's clean out of the box, runs the soft arc setting up the drive off the inside corner of the bag with his right foot and squaring off his track to 2B. On this occasion, I think he lost focus of where he was positioned approaching 1B because he was watching the outfielders play the ball. Where the breakdown occurred is when he took a path to the outfield side on the bag, over-ran the base and either brushed it or missed it completely. His turn was too wide, and he was running on the wrong side of the base. Run the bases square. Run a soft arc to give you the angle that produces a straight line to the next base. Hit the bags on the inside corner. A little surprising since Oregon State has a reputation among coaches and scouts of being an exceptional base running team. Do you have a read on Darwin Barney's sign? Meckler should not be watching the outfielders at all. That is Barney's job. Meckler's job is to run from the box to first and first to second. He shouldn't even be looking at the outfielders, unless Barney didn't give him a straight round first sign.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 26, 2021 13:39:41 GMT -8
I don't know how it works, but I think that Canham maybe now understands the value of coaching the fundamentals more. That's the first time it happened all year, and all last year. From any player, at any time, in any game, at any base. It's not a case of ignoring fundamentals. Meckler is a third-year D1 player. He knows how to run the bases. His footwork got messed up and he made a mistake.
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Post by chinmusic on May 26, 2021 21:46:19 GMT -8
A couple of points. I didn't see Wade break his stride, it looked like he may have caught a spike or landed wrong when he began his lean on the turn towards second. What is clear on the tape, is whatever happened, a caught spike, or his feet were tangled up, he was on the outfield side of the bag and over-running your turn is a no-no.
Never assume knowing a fundamental means you will execute it every time. Baseball coaches say, "if you drill the player 100 times on a fundamental and you think he has it down - no, drill him 101 times and then he'll have it down."
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Post by mbabeav on May 27, 2021 10:00:24 GMT -8
Chin up Wade, help lead this team to a series win!
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Post by chinmusic on May 27, 2021 13:21:38 GMT -8
Wade is a valued asset to this team. His WAR is high! You have to admire him - a walk-on used primarily as a pinch runner and late inning defensive replacement his first year here. He's relentless - tons of BP, absorbing the instruction, practing hard, and suddenly he becomes one of the most reliable hitters on this team. Determined, gritty, tenacious and a fierce competitor. The perfect success story and not atypical at Oregon State. He has one of Madrigal's admirable traits - he makes stuff happen at the plate.
Wade has a quick bat, runs fast, and is a converted infielder with a good arm playing the outfield. Bailey recruited him, credit to Pat on that evaluation.
2022 tease: Opposing pitchers may start the game against Meckler, Melton and Forrester - that's a formula for an early shower.
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