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Post by Judge Smails on May 4, 2021 18:50:32 GMT -8
Mr snail. I rarely respond but You need to be called out. Florida has done better than this hellhole State. People are free and people are moving there. I rarely set foot in Oregon and am glad. I wear a mask,but know they do nothing. I wash and I am careful. You just like to insult people. So much negativity Here. If you don’t live here, why are you referring to it as “this hellhole state”. Florida has more idiots per capita then any state in the country. Enjoy yourself! And what medical training do you have that leads you to believe that masks do nothing? Ever wonder why there were hardly any cases of the flu this year? I’ll give you a hint….it involves masks. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 4, 2021 18:52:01 GMT -8
and Dashel never cites a source. It’s his f%#*ing fault we went down this rabbit hole. Daschel is not at fault on this one. The Benton County Health Department updated their website this morning that we would be going to extreme risk on Friday. That would equate to no fans. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 4, 2021 18:57:48 GMT -8
Mr snail. I rarely respond but You need to be called out. Florida has done better than this hellhole State. People are free and people are moving there. I rarely set foot in Oregon and am glad. I wear a mask,but know they do nothing. I wash and I am careful. You just like to insult people. So much negativity Here. Covid death rate per million: Florida 1,648; Oregon 595. I'd hate to see what those numbers would be if Florida did worse than Oregon, instead of better. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ |
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Post by mrazz on May 4, 2021 18:58:34 GMT -8
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Post by Judge Smails on May 4, 2021 18:59:57 GMT -8
Mr snail. I rarely respond but You need to be called out. Florida has done better than this hellhole State. People are free and people are moving there. I rarely set foot in Oregon and am glad. I wear a mask,but know they do nothing. I wash and I am careful. You just like to insult people. So much negativity Here. Covid death rate per million: Florida 1,648; Oregon 595. I'd hate to see what those numbers would be if Florida did worse than Oregon, instead of better. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/But they’re free!…..to kill each other. |
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Post by speakthetruth on May 4, 2021 19:42:35 GMT -8
It sure is a good thing years and years ago we didn't have a large group of people that thought vaccines for measles, mumps, chicken pox, small pox, etc.were an intrusion into their life. Or that following basic health protocol was the end of their freedom.
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Post by beaverbeliever on May 4, 2021 20:19:53 GMT -8
and Dashel never cites a source. It’s his f%#*ing fault we went down this rabbit hole. Daschel (and other outlets) posted the release from the OSU athletic department reporting there would be no fans. Of course as of tonight OSU put out a new statement. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 4, 2021 20:33:54 GMT -8
You can go to Costco or home depot or fred meyers and walk literally within inches of others but heaven forbid you find a seat at reser and sit 10 seats from the closest person. As an OHA employee, still working on covid response more than a year later, the inequity in our response is the most maddening thing. We aren't asking Home Depot to limit occupancy any more. We aren't asking Costco or any other stories to limit entry. You drive to a Home Depot on Saturday right now it is an outright f%#*ing zoo. Placing the burden on small businesses and schools, while large corporations skirt the rules is problematic. and worse, it is obvious to even the most inattentive observer. If we REALLY do have a problem with community spread again, it means we control the WHOLE community, not just the easy ones. The reason is simple on this one. OSU has to listen to the Governor. Small business restaurants aren't a significant political block, and fast food restaurant figured out drive through only is high profit margins because they can run on skeleton crews. (notice how like zero of the opened up fully when they could of?) But Home Depot and it's $110 billion in annual sales can cause problems in Oregon if it wanted to spend it's money that way... Same with Costco and Fred Meyers or most any other major chain. The inequity is galling. If we have a problem, fine. but make it ALL of our problem, not just a few select places and settings. (FWIW, we do have a problem, we have 3x the average cases of LA county, with less than half the population. Oregon is the fastest growing state in the nation) Some of us have been harassed for having this POV earlier on. It really is sickening, especially for us with young kids who are suffering mentally, and small business owners who can't make it......but mickey D's and Wal Mart are cleaning up! Barf.... |
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Post by spudbeaver on May 4, 2021 20:53:19 GMT -8
Bet India wishes there were more sheeple. Bet they also wish they had developed a vaccine and distributed it like the US. Ironic that there were most likely many scientists from India working for the companies that did successfully develop the vaccines. |
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Post by spudbeaver on May 4, 2021 20:55:20 GMT -8
All true but vaccinations across the country have substantially decreased over the past month. yes, and 20%, as I said in my last edit, in Benton County may never get a shot because the 1 in a millions risk of a bad side effect is better odds than the nearly 100% chance of eventually getting the disease, and the 1-10 chance of lingering side effects from the illness, and/or huge hospital bills and/or the occasional death. Um, care to provide any backup for those numbers? I for one don’t believe them. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 4, 2021 21:20:20 GMT -8
If you got the Moderna or Pfizer shots (2) you theoretically have a 1 in 20 chance it didn't fully work. With the JNJ shot it's essentially 1 in 4 that it isn'tfully effective. A vaccine doesn't mean the virus bounces off of you, it just means you should have the means of fighting it more readily. The sooner we can get 70-80% of the entire population vaccinated, the sooner this ends quickly. Good headway has been made, the slower we get there the more time for the virus to mutate and extend the misery. I’d like people (especially drunk and stoopid ones  ) to cite their legitimate sources when they’re giving out medical stats. Moderna and Pfizer efficacy rates aftr 2 doses are about 94/95%, JNJ efficacy rate 75ish%. Well documented. Herd immunity via vaccination or actually having caught the disease rates needed have been stated to be a minimum of 60-70% and as high as 80-90%. Easy to look up. I'm no expert, but my better half is a clinical pharmacist with a PHD, over a decade of post-bac research and studies in molecular biology and immunology, training manager for a national pharmaceutical services company who also does genomic consultations regularly is pretty darned well informed... and I get an earload on a regular/pretty much daily basis. My numbers could be slightly off, but they're based on pretty good sources and are easily verifiable. . efficacy rates
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Post by eugenedave on May 4, 2021 21:37:41 GMT -8
The carrot and stick let the dead horse out of the barn, and they are all doing laps around my land. I got the vaccine for the (hopefully at the time) sole purpose of attending baseball. Lol. I rarely ever see anybody but my wife. Perfect social distancer. She says that I can get the virus from her. True, but when she goes to the store, she looks like the mummy from hell, and I am certain she is going to die from samitizer overdose. Anyway, I really appreciate the great improvement OSU has accomplished in the live streaming. I can definitely survive just fine with this, but I do miss Roy's bourbon. Note to Ramp: I left out 'old'. I miss Roys bourbon too. Except that it was Rich and Rare Reserve, which is a blended Canadian whiskey. And the cause of many late Friday nights dragging into Saturday morning, at his trailer parked over in the Reser lot. |
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Post by TheGlove on May 4, 2021 21:43:02 GMT -8
and Dashel never cites a source. It’s his f%#*ing fault we went down this rabbit hole. Daschel (and other outlets) posted the release from the OSU athletic department reporting there would be no fans. Of course as of tonight OSU put out a new statement. do you have a link? |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 5, 2021 5:07:34 GMT -8
It's coming for both OSU and UO...... It is 99.9% coming for OSU. they have sent out letters essentially saying prepare for this to be policy. It just isn't formal yet. They announced it last night. |
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Post by atownbeaver on May 5, 2021 6:10:22 GMT -8
Get this - she just now announced all counties are moving back out of extreme risk starting Friday - so guess that means we can go after all. Horrendous leadership. Just horrendous. Where did you see this? Never mind. Found it. Didn’t know that hospitalizations increasing under 15% kicked all counties out of extreme. Well see if fans are allowed Saturday. Because it literally never existed before... There was one statewide metric: over 300 COVID hospitalization. this new one was just made up to justify moving out of extreme because it was EXTREMELY unpopular moving back. FWIW, hospitalizations are receding... they are still over 300 though. |
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) to cite their legitimate sources when they’re giving out medical stats. 