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Post by PhenomenalRob on May 3, 2021 6:30:14 GMT -8
....hire an assistant coach during the off-season with extensive experience coaching college ball?? Mitch is very obviously learning to coach college ball on the fly this season and it's hurting this team. MC is here for a while and the addition of a new, experienced assistant coach might help him to shorten his learning curve. I bet MC talks to PC on a regular basis. Not during games, obviously, but often. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 3, 2021 9:13:56 GMT -8
I like our staff. I think the recruiting will continue to improve. Player development will hopefully continue to be on par.....time will tell....guys like Mcmahan and Mcdowell though...not sure whats going on there....and what about Valero? Maybe next season I guess....
If I had questions about one staff member at this point it'd be Doorman. The pitching staff is talented as we know, but they've come up small when it counts most. Some of it is youth/inexperience prolly......but at the end of the day, the pitching coach needs to have his guys mentally prepared for battle.....that said, Canham has faith in Doorman, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.....for now.
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Post by ochobeavo on May 3, 2021 9:34:19 GMT -8
Curious what an experienced college coach could teach Mitch as far as in-game coaching/execution goes? Feels like throw strikes, hit the ball, don't make errors should translate at AA and D1. What am I missing?
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Post by flyfishinbeav on May 3, 2021 10:37:04 GMT -8
Curious what an experienced college coach could teach Mitch as far as in-game coaching/execution goes? Feels like throw strikes, hit the ball, don't make errors should translate at AA and D1. What am I missing? I think phenomenal Rob answered it above. MC has one of the greatest of all time's ear to bend.....and he learned under him. The college game is a bit different than the pros. Maybe situationally doing things different.....or when to do certain things. Sac bunt, hit and run, etc...so in-game managing might not look as smooth yet....but he played the game at a high level, and was a team leader and catcher obviously on championship teams.....I think he's prepared. |
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Post by mbabeav on May 3, 2021 14:23:50 GMT -8
Drop in talent is inevitable after our last championship team that had so much high end talent. We may never see that much talent here ever again. Although I'd say right now we have more talented arms then we did on that team. As far as losses piling up. Look at it this way. Preseason polls had us ranked in the high 40's. 48th if I remember correctly. And after the small sample size from last year's shortened season I don't think many or any had high expectations coming into this year. We are currently 28-14, just barely out of the Top 25 rankings, still in the mix for a Pac 12 title and although not likely still having an outside shot at a regional host site. If you would've told all of us before the year started that at this point this is where your team will be I think dang near all of us would've happily taken that. Be happy we are in the mix and competing and hope we get hot at the right time. Go Beavs I SECOND this Good grief people - We were the World Series champions only 2 tournaments ago, we had otherworldly talent in the form of 4 first round draft picks, a guy that woulda coulda been the 5th, had been 56-6 the season before and maybe the best player in school history on the squad. Do we have talent? Yes! Do we have guys that could go high in the draft, maybe a first rounder level guy or two in the end? I think so. But the 2017 and 2018 team was a freaking force of nature. As a storm chaser, it's like seeing an F5 tornado up close and personal - everything else pales by comparison. Our 2005-2007 squads are a step below 2017-2018 talent wise in my book, even if they won 1 more title - just shows how baseball works out. And the 2007 team got into the playoffs as the #64 selection. Right now we are a #2 seed. Baseball - no other sport like it, or we would all have heart attacks from year round stress exposure. |
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Post by rilesinnewberg on May 3, 2021 14:42:08 GMT -8
Curious what an experienced college coach could teach Mitch as far as in-game coaching/execution goes? Feels like throw strikes, hit the ball, don't make errors should translate at AA and D1. What am I missing? Maybe add have catchers get up off one knee and catch from a crouch. That one knee thing has cost OSU pitchers in WPs. Wes Clements brought it uo this weekend. |
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Post by irimi on May 3, 2021 16:00:34 GMT -8
Curious what an experienced college coach could teach Mitch as far as in-game coaching/execution goes? Feels like throw strikes, hit the ball, don't make errors should translate at AA and D1. What am I missing? Maybe add have catchers get up off one knee and catch from a crouch. That one knee thing has cost OSU pitchers in WPs. Wes Clements brought it uo this weekend. But Canham was a catcher himself. |
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Post by mbabeav on May 3, 2021 16:18:00 GMT -8
Maybe add have catchers get up off one knee and catch from a crouch. That one knee thing has cost OSU pitchers in WPs. Wes Clements brought it uo this weekend. But Canham was a catcher himself. It may just be possible that this is the best style for Troy, which I am sure Mitch has looked at from every angle. |
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Post by beavermd on May 3, 2021 21:08:31 GMT -8
Curious what an experienced college coach could teach Mitch as far as in-game coaching/execution goes? Feels like throw strikes, hit the ball, don't make errors should translate at AA and D1. What am I missing? Maybe add have catchers get up off one knee and catch from a crouch. That one knee thing has cost OSU pitchers in WPs. Wes Clements brought it uo this weekend. It’s the new thing with catching. Teams everywhere, including the MLB are having catchers use this stance. |
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Post by abureid on May 4, 2021 7:56:06 GMT -8
Maybe add have catchers get up off one knee and catch from a crouch. That one knee thing has cost OSU pitchers in WPs. Wes Clements brought it uo this weekend. It’s the new thing with catching. Teams everywhere, including the MLB are having catchers use this stance. I read a couple articles on this over the weekend. Apparently 1 knee is faster to throw to second, better at framing the bottom of the zone, better at blocking dirt balls, but inferior on WP laterally. of course our pitchers have a problem keeping the baseball out of the batters box, so there is that. |
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Post by bvogrande on May 4, 2021 9:31:18 GMT -8
I'm still a big fan of having the pitching coach call the pitches. He's the one, as well as the head coach, that should be studying opposing batters tendencies. I feel that a college catcher has a big enough job trying to be a quarterback and receiver.
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Post by billsaab on May 4, 2021 9:33:36 GMT -8
I am not unhappy with the coaches. I am unhappy with how guys have been playing. Abel is not the pitcher He was before injury. He cannot control his fastball. He should be third starter. Our catchers technique is painful. Passed balls on strike outs. We need better execution behind the plate and in the mound. Some guys need to learn how to catch pop ups. Looks like a Chinese fire drill.
We will not win the league but we need to win remaining series.
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Post by ricke71 on May 4, 2021 10:28:58 GMT -8
I am not unhappy with the coaches. I am unhappy with how guys have been playing. Abel is not the pitcher He was before injury. He cannot control his fastball. He should be third starter. Our catchers technique is painful. Passed balls on strike outs. We need better execution behind the plate and in the mound. Some guys need to learn how to catch pop ups. Looks like a Chinese fire drill. We will not win the league but we need to win remaining series. After about 3 or 4 innings Sunday against UCLA, that thought (Abel being our #3 starter) with Hjerpe & Pfennings 'moving up', certainly crossed through my brain. Maybe even not starting Abel at all, with Frisch working into the weekend starter picture, and Abel as a 5th-7th inning guy in games that are close or where the starter needs early help. I'll likely get flamed for that idea...Promise: I won't take it personally. Hjerpe - Pfennings - Frisch: that's the future. What if all 3 entered next season as veteran weekend starters? |
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Post by beavoracity on May 4, 2021 11:30:49 GMT -8
I'm still a big fan of having the pitching coach call the pitches. He's the one, as well as the head coach, that should be studying opposing batters tendencies. I feel that a college catcher has a big enough job trying to be a quarterback and receiver. I agree. The coaches have the batter’s scouting report, tendencies, and spray charts. The pitch calls should be managed from the pitching coach. |
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Post by blackbug on May 4, 2021 12:38:54 GMT -8
I like our staff. I think the recruiting will continue to improve. Player development will hopefully continue to be on par.....time will tell....guys like Mcmahan and Mcdowell though...not sure whats going on there....and what about Valero? Maybe next season I guess.... If I had questions about one staff member at this point it'd be Doorman. The pitching staff is talented as we know, but they've come up small when it counts most. Some of it is youth/inexperience prolly......but at the end of the day, the pitching coach needs to have his guys mentally prepared for battle.....that said, Canham has faith in Doorman, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.....for now. Sounds like you are trying to show Dorman the Door, man.  |
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