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Post by chinmusic on Mar 14, 2021 21:46:55 GMT -8
Ahlstrom, Kafka and Walker? Really? The same guys we have been knocking around for several years now . . . .
.147/ .227/ .182
Those numbers would be hard to swallow if we had just returned from a 3 game series at Vanderbilt against Kumar Rocker, Jack Leiter and Ethan Smith.
The midnight oil will burn brightly in the baseball offices at Goss this week as we craft a plan to turn our hitters loose to attack hittable strikes by swinging the bats. Our guys are far better than that - release the Hounds.
"My Dad always taught me - put the ball in play, something good can happen"
Nick Madrigal
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 15, 2021 9:38:40 GMT -8
A note to beaver players, when you have the bat in your hands you are on OFFENSE. They seem to take a defensive posture, not only at the plate but in their body language going to and from the plate. You can’t go up there wishing and walking back to the dugout like whipped dogs. They are giving ( with the exception of the KSU guy) way to much credit. A useful exercise I have used when working with younger hitters is to take a group of them to a game and ask them to study the pitcher and after 5 innings tell me what he is trying to do to the hitters. I get answers like “ he is hard in and soft away” , likes to finish hitters with a change “. Every kid had a answer. Then I ask them what are you going do to him. Most often I get no answers. There in lies the problem. Good hitters go to the plate in attack mode. Until the beavers hitters mentality changes they are going to struggle against mid level pitchers. Also from the outside it looks like a lack of leadership on the team. It can’t always come from the coaches. On Great teams ( which the beavers are not) the players are accountable to each other. We may have too many choir boys.
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Post by chinmusic on Mar 15, 2021 13:48:07 GMT -8
He shows "plate discipline" or, "he is a disciplined hitter". . . .what does that really mean? Coaches know what it doesn't mean, hitters that are overly "count conscious" as opposed to count aware, hitters that are programmed to take strikes, hitters that have a base on balls first mentality, hitters that "chase" with 2 strikes, and hitters playing defense in the batters box.
Being disciplined means, hitters that aren't guessing on every pitch, hitters that don't take 87 mph fastballs right down the pipe, hitters that can recognize a pitch and adjust to its spin and location, hitters that know their strike zone and swing within it, hitters with 2 strikes that will expand their zone slightly, shorten up and protect the plate, and hitters that walk to the box with a mindset of squaring up and putting the barrel squarely on the baseball.
Everybody loves the kids we recruit. Good character, good students, and good baseball potential. How many times do we hear our coaches define their mission as "building young men, preparing them to be good husbands and good fathers", and that's the way it should be but let's mix in a little more hitting instruction with that, shall we?
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 15, 2021 14:13:02 GMT -8
We've seen it before....hitting can be contagious, and so can NOT hitting.
That said, I wish we had a Yovan or two....Casey looked like he could be that guy going forward, but nope, not right now.
There was an AB of Jones' that summed it up.....watch two strikes, strike out flailing at an 0-2 pitch off the plate.....thats mostly confidence, or lack there of.....agreed that there needs to be a more aggressive approach....that first pitch is often the best pitch ur gonna see....take a dam cut!
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Post by badwack on Mar 15, 2021 14:24:38 GMT -8
Armstrong had a bad day but is about the only one of older guys that walks looking like he wants to hit. I like the looks of Forester who swings the bat. Early I thought this team could be special with all the potential Pitching if we could become a decent hitting team. Well.......... Why take a FB down the middle with runners on? Get on with it. Hit the damn thing, somewhere, anywhere, just do it!
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 15, 2021 14:25:00 GMT -8
Yovan is a heck of a hitter. He strikes me as a guy you love if he’s on your team and don’t like if he’s on the other team. Never mind, I wouldn’t like him on any team 🤡
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Post by irimi on Mar 15, 2021 15:28:32 GMT -8
Seems like we had many of the same conversations back in 2019 when Pat Bailey was head coach. And last year. And now this year.
How do these players hit in the summer league, those that play? Is it similar or do their batting stats drop when they play with us? I know it’s not a straight comparison, but it would be interesting to know. And the way P. Jones lit it up at the start of the season really makes me wonder.
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 15, 2021 15:42:10 GMT -8
Seems like we had many of the same conversations back in 2019 when Pat Bailey was head coach. And last year. And now this year. How do these players hit in the summer league, those that play? Is it similar or do their batting stats drop when they play with us? I know it’s not a straight comparison, but it would be interesting to know. And the way P. Jones lit it up at the start of the season really makes me wonder. PJ’s hitting is based on even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while theory. His swing is fundamentally incorrect and until he shortens it and gets his hands in a better position all we will see random flashes |
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 15, 2021 15:45:39 GMT -8
Maybe the reality is that this group is just not that good at hitting.
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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 15, 2021 15:48:58 GMT -8
Maybe the reality is that this group is just not that good at hitting. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 15, 2021 16:04:48 GMT -8
Maybe the reality is that this group is just not that good at hitting. That would indicate that our coaching staff is not developing talent. Or we have been recruiting poorly |
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Post by Angus on Mar 15, 2021 16:19:11 GMT -8
11-3, not a comfortable 11-3, but 11-3!
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 15, 2021 16:22:26 GMT -8
Seems like we had many of the same conversations back in 2019 when Pat Bailey was head coach. And last year. And now this year. How do these players hit in the summer league, those that play? Is it similar or do their batting stats drop when they play with us? I know it’s not a straight comparison, but it would be interesting to know. And the way P. Jones lit it up at the start of the season really makes me wonder. There were plenty of the same conversations when Pat coached too. Hey, hitting is hard. And it's become a lot harder as college staffs have gotten deeper. I don't think our 2006 and 2007 teams had anywhere near the bullpen, or 1-15 pitching talent, as our current team has. Summer-league pitching is nowhere near as good as during the NCAA season. The top pitchers on almost every team do not play summer ball unless they are going to the Cape Cod League. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 15, 2021 16:29:24 GMT -8
Maybe the reality is that this group is just not that good at hitting. That would indicate that our coaching staff is not developing talent. Or we have been recruiting poorly We are seeing the results of having stacked teams through 2018. It’s hard to recruit bats when you have entrenched position players that recruits will be stuck behind for 2-3 years. When all those players other than Adley left at the end of 2018, there was a huge drop off in talent with nobody to replace them |
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Post by irimi on Mar 15, 2021 17:36:39 GMT -8
Seems like we had many of the same conversations back in 2019 when Pat Bailey was head coach. And last year. And now this year. How do these players hit in the summer league, those that play? Is it similar or do their batting stats drop when they play with us? I know it’s not a straight comparison, but it would be interesting to know. And the way P. Jones lit it up at the start of the season really makes me wonder. There were plenty of the same conversations when Pat coached too. Hey, hitting is hard. And it's become a lot harder as college staffs have gotten deeper. I don't think our 2006 and 2007 teams had anywhere near the bullpen, or 1-15 pitching talent, as our current team has. Summer-league pitching is nowhere near as good as during the NCAA season. The top pitchers on almost every team do not play summer ball unless they are going to the Cape Cod League. I didn't know this. Thank you! |
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