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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 18, 2021 20:17:41 GMT -8
Fans will be in the stands for Pac-12 play.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 19, 2021 8:25:27 GMT -8
So each game there's a different approach based on the pitcher being faced, right? Especially with a "lighter" hitting team, such as we have. The reality is, guys like Preston Jones play because of their defense, and baserunning ability......he's batting lead-off(or has) based on trying to manufacture a run, and hoping our deep pitching staff can hold down the other teams hitting.
Moving forward, best case scenario is some guys develop, and get hot at the plate.....reality is though we don't have a Yovan......so prolly lots of small ball to move guys around. This could be a .500 kind of ball club in conference....lots of close games as long as our pitchers continue to be stingy
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Post by irimi on Mar 19, 2021 9:54:23 GMT -8
So each game there's a different approach based on the pitcher being faced, right? Especially with a "lighter" hitting team, such as we have. The reality is, guys like Preston Jones play because of their defense, and baserunning ability......he's batting lead-off(or has) based on trying to manufacture a run, and hoping our deep pitching staff can hold down the other teams hitting. Moving forward, best case scenario is some guys develop, and get hot at the plate.....reality is though we don't have a Yovan......so prolly lots of small ball to move guys around. This could be a .500 kind of ball club in conference....lots of close games as long as our pitchers continue to be stingy When we lost Kwan and Madrigal, we lost our two spark plugs. Others are trying to fill the cleats of Rutschman, and Larnach, but no one is trying to be the energizer. Both Madrigal and Kwan are very smart players and they bat intelligently. These guys could consistently get on base, which made it harder for pitchers to deal with our sluggers. Conversely, without base runners, our long ball hitters are not much of a threat. P. Jones isn’t a spark plug. He doesn’t have that mentality and that’s OK, but having him lead off, I think, is a mistake. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 19, 2021 9:59:59 GMT -8
I think the coaches are just now deciding what kind of team this is. It was easy to get fooled by the first two weeks when we looked like we could hit anything, and we led the conference by a big margin out of the gate at the plate, and then start to have to craft a totally different approach when we fall off the table against consistently good pitching.
This team has some power, let it get a bit warmer at Goss. This team has speed (tho I am concerned about our ability to turn the double play in a timely manner). This team has definitely got pitching. But we have to learn to adapt to the umpire's strike zone, and hit the ball where it is.
Can't do too much about the pitches down and in, but anything on the outside of the plate, especially off-speed, we have to go the opposite way. If the ump is calling the close ones strikes, and you see it is an inch outside, it doesn't matter if you are walking back to the dugout and the replay shows it was a ball. At least foul the those pitches off and work to increase the pitch count and/or get the mistake. If they aren't showing them Kwan and Madrigal video clips, then they should be. Also, Troy should be taking pitches from the Jugs and if he doesn't move his body to block, then DH him and start Hamilton behind the plate.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 19, 2021 11:37:23 GMT -8
So each game there's a different approach based on the pitcher being faced, right? Especially with a "lighter" hitting team, such as we have. The reality is, guys like Preston Jones play because of their defense, and baserunning ability......he's batting lead-off(or has) based on trying to manufacture a run, and hoping our deep pitching staff can hold down the other teams hitting. Moving forward, best case scenario is some guys develop, and get hot at the plate.....reality is though we don't have a Yovan......so prolly lots of small ball to move guys around. This could be a .500 kind of ball club in conference....lots of close games as long as our pitchers continue to be stingy When we lost Kwan and Madrigal, we lost our two spark plugs. Others are trying to fill the cleats of Rutschman, and Larnach, but no one is trying to be the energizer. Both Madrigal and Kwan are very smart players and they bat intelligently. These guys could consistently get on base, which made it harder for pitchers to deal with our sluggers. Conversely, without base runners, our long ball hitters are not much of a threat. P. Jones isn’t a spark plug. He doesn’t have that mentality and that’s OK, but having him lead off, I think, is a mistake. I'm not a fan of jones lead off either, but I get it......he's a dangerous base runner......I'm betting as conference goes on he won't be in lead off spot....but what do I know We got spoiled with who we had in the lineup leading up the the '18 championship. We just don't have the hitting talent in comparison.....I spose a Melton, or McMahan could really emerge,....but the reality is we are most likely a pitching/defense team who tries to manufacture runs.....thats ok as long as our strengths execute as expected |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 19, 2021 19:59:36 GMT -8
It's official.....panic time
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 20, 2021 9:27:46 GMT -8
It's official.....panic time Agreed. It's panic-ville. Though they have a combined 10 Strikeouts in 16 AB this season - in other words, they are below the "Casey-line" (hereby defined as 1 Strikeout per each 2.4 times At Bat), both Cesar Valero Sanchez and Justin Boyd arrived at OSU with pretty high praise as hitters. Is it time to find out if they will become D-1 performers? |
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 20, 2021 9:46:51 GMT -8
It's official.....panic time Agreed. It's panic-ville. Though they have a combined 10 Strikeouts in 16 AB this season - in other words, they are below the "Casey-line" (hereby defined as 1 Strikeout per each 2.4 times At Bat), both Cesar Valero Sanchez and Justin Boyd arrived at OSU with pretty high praise as hitters. Is it time to find out if they will become D-1 performers? I am officially done with the idea that it is the players that are the problem. All these guys could hit well in high school. That really means very little as far as hitting against college pitching, but the Beavers have rolled out 20-plus guys to give a shot at hitting against some pretty mediocre arms. The result is zip. It is good to get players not swinging at bad pitches, but almost the entire Beaver team is so timid at the plate that the rare swing even looks like a Pee Wee swing. And it is getting worse. The only guys swinging hard and agressive are the new guys to the program. The new guys apparently haven't learned the "approach". Ryan Ober taking weak swings??? That right there says more than slump. Swing the bats today Beavers. A really tough guy on the mound for the Cougars, but today is as good as any day to start being agressive or this guy will eat you alive. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 20, 2021 12:01:20 GMT -8
Hit the dam ball, will ya!
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 20, 2021 13:00:51 GMT -8
Agreed. It's panic-ville. Though they have a combined 10 Strikeouts in 16 AB this season - in other words, they are below the "Casey-line" (hereby defined as 1 Strikeout per each 2.4 times At Bat), both Cesar Valero Sanchez and Justin Boyd arrived at OSU with pretty high praise as hitters. Is it time to find out if they will become D-1 performers? I am officially done with the idea that it is the players that are the problem. All these guys could hit well in high school. That really means very little as far as hitting against college pitching, but the Beavers have rolled out 20-plus guys to give a shot at hitting against some pretty mediocre arms. The result is zip. It is good to get players not swinging at bad pitches, but almost the entire Beaver team is so timid at the plate that the rare swing even looks like a Pee Wee swing. And it is getting worse. The only guys swinging hard and agressive are the new guys to the program. The new guys apparently haven't learned the "approach". Ryan Ober taking weak swings??? That right there says more than slump. Swing the bats today Beavers. A really tough guy on the mound for the Cougars, but today is as good as any day to start being agressive or this guy will eat you alive. It's not black and white....lack of confidence....players not developing....recruiting misses. Something is up with the whole team right now....our pitchers are giving up free passes and getting smacked around too......baseball can be like that......the funk can be contagious. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 20, 2021 13:12:15 GMT -8
Keep the faith. They'll work through it. Baseball is a weird game.
Do I think they'll approach the level of our championship teams? No. Can they win the Pac? Of course, but it depends on how they respond to this adversity.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 20, 2021 13:42:05 GMT -8
Bats goin a bit! Prolly gonna need a few more against this team though. They will break through if we keep puttin em on
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Post by irimi on Mar 20, 2021 14:09:08 GMT -8
Panic? No need to panic.
We've got some talented kids somewhere willing to swing a bat!
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 27, 2021 19:09:33 GMT -8
In our last six games we have scored 10, 9, 9, 9, 3 and 8 runs; a total of 48, an average of 8.0 per game.
Baseball is not a game where success (or failure) can be measured in 2- or 3-game sample sizes.
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Post by irimi on Mar 27, 2021 19:26:17 GMT -8
In our last six games we have scored 10, 9, 9, 9, 3 and 8 runs; a total of 48, an average of 8.0 per game. Baseball is not a game where success (or failure) can be measured in 2- or 3-game sample sizes. But it can be measured with a six game stretch? Just take it one game at a time, fellas. Keep the faith. |
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