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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 12, 2021 13:27:46 GMT -8
If the AD office doesn’t have a couple of contingency plans already thought out; 25%, 50%, 75% w/concessions, w/out. Then someone needs to get fired. Successful organizations are proactive, they plan ahead, they plan for success. . Not saying that don’t hav a plan. Just stating that it probably couldn’t be initiated in 2 days. Give me entertainment or give me death! |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 12, 2021 13:45:42 GMT -8
like "radicals, the anarchists, the Islamists, the socialists" have come together to work to destablilize Europe and America? Destabilize* Good whataboutism, Comrade! You don't strike me as a big Glenn Beck fan but to each their own. I'm not but I did read his book from about 10 years ago. I don't even know if he is still on radio. I was looking for something 45 said, but couldnt find it. What I remember is if you don't elect me you will lose your country (from 2016). Maybe my memory is bad because when I searched for quotes it never came up. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 12, 2021 13:53:41 GMT -8
"If you want to control someone, all you have to do is to make them feel afraid."--Paulo Coelho  Taking precautions against a pandemic is not “fear”, it is respect for an deadly epidemic that has killed >500,000 Americans - to date. Paulo Coehlo can KMA. Good spin. Taking precautions is great. You should always, always take a reasonable amount of precaution. The idea, though, that the family of players cannot attend is what I was responding to. A rule that is that black and white with no wiggle room is both arbitrary and capricious on its face and should be laughable to all reasonably-minded people. There should be at least 400-500 fans in the stands IMO. You can disagree with that, if you would like, but it is my opinion. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 12, 2021 14:02:48 GMT -8
Destabilize* Good whataboutism, Comrade! You don't strike me as a big Glenn Beck fan but to each their own. I'm not but I did read his book from about 10 years ago. I don't even know if he is still on radio. I was looking for something 45 said, but couldn't find it. What I remember is if you don't elect me you will lose your country (from 2016). Maybe my memory is bad because when I searched for quotes it never came up.  A lot of what Donald Trump said since 2016 has been censored for our protection. If you read what Donald Trump said, you might lose your free will and be compelled to storm the Capitol. God bless the tech oligarchs, working tirelessly to keep us all safe! |
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Post by irimi on Mar 12, 2021 14:38:11 GMT -8
I'm not but I did read his book from about 10 years ago. I don't even know if he is still on radio. I was looking for something 45 said, but couldn't find it. What I remember is if you don't elect me you will lose your country (from 2016). Maybe my memory is bad because when I searched for quotes it never came up. A lot of what Donald Trump said since 2016 has been censored for our protection. If you read what Donald Trump said, you might lose your free will and be compelled to storm the Capitol. God bless the tech oligarchs, working tirelessly to keep us all safe! Donald who? |
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Post by jayvinson on Mar 12, 2021 14:53:52 GMT -8
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Post by irimi on Mar 12, 2021 15:14:49 GMT -8
. Not saying that don’t hav a plan. Just stating that it probably couldn’t be initiated in 2 days. Give me entertainment or give me death! It’s a two for one special! |
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Post by irimi on Mar 12, 2021 15:15:53 GMT -8
Not a chance in hell. Did you forget how badly he lost this year? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 12, 2021 21:10:48 GMT -8
Not a chance in hell. Did you forget how badly he lost this year? Are you smoking gas? Arizona 10,457 votes
Georgia 11,779 votes
+Wisconsin 20,682 votes
= 42,918 votes
Biden won by 0.0027% of all votes cast nationwide in an election where the turnout was the highest since women got the vote.
Marijuana was legalized in Arizona in 2020 via proposition 207. That proposition won by 653,982 votes. And Biden still only won Arizona by 10,457 votes! With no Proposition 207 on the ballot in 2024, Trump probably wins by 90,000+ votes.
Georgia has already made changes to how elections will be conducted in 2022 and going forward.
Wisconsin's Supreme Court has held that the 2020 election and the way that the votes were counted in Wisconsin was unconstitutional, so the 2022 election will not be held in the manner in which it was conducted in 2020.
Further, Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon all likely gain an electoral college vote in 2024. Florida probably gains two votes, and Texas probably gains three. Those seven states probably gain the electoral college votes from Alabama, California, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia.
The electoral college was stacked toward the Democrats in 2020, which is why Biden winning by 0.0027% of the vote translated in 56.88%-43.12% electoral college victory. If 42,918 voters do not show up in 2024, Trump wins the electoral college 274-264. And that's excluding the other three states that were decided by fewer than 3% and also assuming that the Democrats can even put up Biden or someone, who is as centrist as he is.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 12, 2021 21:17:06 GMT -8
Wilky- it’s ok to bleed orange, but not to vote orange.
I’m a life long Conservative that finally had to give up on the party that would support a bat s%#t crazy person to represent the party.
I’m now an unaffiliated voter.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 12, 2021 21:29:42 GMT -8
Wilky- it’s ok to bleed orange, but not to vote orange. I’m a life long Conservative that finally had to give up on the party that would support a bat s%#t crazy person to represent the party. I’m now an unaffiliated voter. Donald Trump is not the ideal candidate by any shake of the stick. But Hillary Clinton is and was worse. Basta! I like Joe Biden. If I could have voted just for him without having that vote throw the Senate to the Democrats, I probably would have. Whether it be the USSR or Nazi Germany or the United States President and Congress (whether Democrat or Republican), one party in charge of both the executive and legislative branches of government is almost never a desirable outcome. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 12, 2021 21:32:53 GMT -8
Not a chance in hell. Did you forget how badly he lost this year?
Georgia has already made changes to how elections will be conducted in 2022 and going forward.
<snip>Because the way for Republicans to win is to suppress the vote. And you tout this as a good thing? How do you, Wilky, not see through this? I'm shocked, actually. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 12, 2021 21:37:37 GMT -8
Wilky- it’s ok to bleed orange, but not to vote orange. I’m a life long Conservative that finally had to give up on the party that would support a bat s%#t crazy person to represent the party. I’m now an unaffiliated voter. Donald Trump is not the ideal candidate by any shake of the stick. But Hillary Clinton is and was worse. Basta! I like Joe Biden. If I could have voted just for him without having that vote throw the Senate to the Democrats, I probably would have. Whether it be the USSR or Nazi Germany or the United States President and Congress (whether Democrat or Republican), one party in charge of both the executive and legislative branches of government is almost never a desirable outcome. So, you think voting for Biden changed the Senate. I don’t think you get how voting works. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 12, 2021 21:54:34 GMT -8
Wilky- it’s ok to bleed orange, but not to vote orange. I’m a life long Conservative that finally had to give up on the party that would support a bat s%#t crazy person to represent the party. I’m now an unaffiliated voter. Donald Trump is not the ideal candidate by any shake of the stick. But Hillary Clinton is and was worse. Basta! I like Joe Biden. If I could have voted just for him without having that vote throw the Senate to the Democrats, I probably would have. Whether it be the USSR or Nazi Germany or the United States President and Congress (whether Democrat or Republican), one party in charge of both the executive and legislative branches of government is almost never a desirable outcome. RE: Trump v. Clinton I'd say that that depends on what you find desirable in a candidate for the presidency. Personally, I want my president to have above average intelligence, though I can see that a lot of Americans are intimidated by that (see Obama). I like to know that a president has an advanced understanding of civics and how the government works...maybe even law. I like to know that a president has had some public service and understand what it means to work for the people. I honestly don't know what qualifications voters saw in Trump. What did you see, Wilky? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 12, 2021 21:59:47 GMT -8
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Georgia has already made changes to how elections will be conducted in 2022 and going forward.
<snip> Because the way for Republicans to win is to suppress the vote. And you tout this as a good thing? How do you, Wilky, not see through this? I'm shocked, actually. America is a global joke for what is perceived to be how lax Americans treat voting. Actually requiring people to present government-issued idea to vote happens literally everywhere else in the world. And outside of the pandemic, nowhere that treats voting seriously allows people to vote by mail. There are things that other countries do to increase turnout. But every country requires people to present valid identifications and requires most people to vote on a single day. (You have to literally be out of the country to vote by mail.) Results are almost invariably known that day with certainty. That is not suppressing vote. That is eliminating fraud and conducing an orderly election, where the results can be trusted. If you seriously made the rhetorical questions that you pose anywhere else in the world, you would be publicly ridiculed. The idea that eliminating fraud and ensuring that results are timely known is "voter suppression" is laughable on its face. No. I disagree. |
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