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Post by jayvinson on Mar 2, 2021 19:47:34 GMT -8
We flew from PDX to Phoenix two weeks ago for the Surprise tournament. Flights both ways were at capacity with 186 passengers. We were not able to keep six feet away. We somehow survived.
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Post by 56chevy on Mar 2, 2021 19:56:13 GMT -8
The SEC is permitting 25% of capacity attendance in baseball this season. That was decided before the season began as I reported weeks ago. Like I said at the time, I can go to Costco but I can't sit outside socially distanced and wearing a mask watching a baseball game?
Scott Barnes would give just about anything to have 25% of capacity in attendance at Goss.
I don't think he would.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 2, 2021 20:36:35 GMT -8
We flew from PDX to Phoenix two weeks ago for the Surprise tournament. Flights both ways were at capacity with 186 passengers. We were not able to keep six feet away. We somehow survived. So far! (Just kidding).
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Post by seastape on Mar 2, 2021 20:56:30 GMT -8
That is quite simply asinine. Someone should sue on the grounds that the rule is arbitrary and capricious. And they should sue in Utah, if possible. Seastape. Give us a legal opinion. Apologies, Steinlager...I have only just now seen your post. I don't really remember the rules of civil jurisdiction; I haven't practiced civil law for 8 years now and even when I did, I did mostly family law and never had a case across state lines (although I did once subpoena a witness in Vancouver...fortunately he didn't know that the method I used had no power to get him into court). The law of civil jurisdiction is murky with a lot of rules and a lot of exceptions to those rules, especially when the parties to are domiciled in different states. And if they are domiciled in different states and the harm took place in yet another state, it can drive you around in circles. I think Wilky practices civil law and would know the law a lot better than I do. I have no idea what power states have over their own medical policies; I would think they have a lot with the federal government being fairly limited in that regard. I didn't pay attention, but I don't remember any lawsuits emerging from travel restrictions states set against entry of non-residents during the pandemic.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 2, 2021 21:03:58 GMT -8
There's been a bunch of sporting events in different parts of the country that have had fans in attendance.....how has that gone? None with anywhere near a quarter of 100% attendance. AT&T Stadium was at 40% capacity.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 2, 2021 21:05:56 GMT -8
There are doomsdayers, there are rational/realists, and there are pollyannas. This is true and consistently displayed here at Benny’s House. Good luck to those on the poles.
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Post by jefframp on Mar 2, 2021 21:08:46 GMT -8
FWIW, here is a note from our A.D.: link
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 2, 2021 21:10:39 GMT -8
None with anywhere near a quarter of 100% attendance. I feel like SEC football was well over 25% SEC football was limited to 25%. Some other conferences and neutral site venues allowed up to 40%.
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Post by OSUprof on Mar 2, 2021 21:17:56 GMT -8
FWIW, here is a note from our A.D.: linkYep, we as season ticket holders in baseball got this message. Barnes wants fans in the stands, but he wants to do it safely of course.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 2, 2021 21:18:28 GMT -8
The SEC is permitting 25% of capacity attendance in baseball this season. That was decided before the season began as I reported weeks ago. Like I said at the time, I can go to Costco but I can't sit outside socially distanced and wearing a mask watching a baseball game?
Scott Barnes would give just about anything to have 25% of capacity in attendance at Goss.
Sorry I don't remember that. Thanks for re-posting. I think this is a prime example of why people are pissed. Certain areas of our economy are wide open, yet we can't walk thru gates in the open air, and sit outside to watch baseball....the studies show covid is spread mainly within households, or densely populated indoor spaces......I think with proper precautions there's little to no chance of spreading covid at an outdoor ballgame.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 2, 2021 21:50:52 GMT -8
FWIW, here is a note from our A.D.: linkYep, we as season ticket holders in baseball got this message. Barnes wants fans in the stands, but he wants to do it safely of course. So tired of hearing that. Must be done safely....blah blah blah. Dumb. You don’t say.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 2, 2021 22:04:44 GMT -8
If Alaska, Florida Georgia, Idaho, Iowa, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota and Tennessee can handle it, I am sure that Texas can. If the other states want to treat their populace like children, so be it. As for the cold snap, The Texas Interconnect is not tied into the Eastern and Western Interconnects. The result is that, unless you live in West Texas, the Panhandle or West Texas, you live and die on your own production. Texas is the eighth-most reliant on wind power in the country and the second-most reliant on solar power. Couple that with a natural gas energy system that is not properly winterized, you are going to be in trouble if it gets cold, the sun does not shine and the wind does not blow. And that was what happened. From my understanding, coal performed well. Hydroelectric performed well. Nuclear performed well. Biomass performed well. But those four only make up 25% of the power production potential in Texas. When you are having problems with 75% of your power production potential, you are going to be in trouble. Whoops, hit the wrong button and inadvertently liked this post. Who oversees the Texas utility system? Who decided not to winterize their systems, even though they were warned to 10 years ago? Who decided to withdraw from the other grids, which worked perfectly, and which could have easily sent power Texas's way when Texas's power grid collapsed? The same state government that sees fit to open the state 100%, despite advice from the CDC not to. The Dakotas really handled it, with some of the highest death rates in the country. Keep gaslighting. I am pretty sure that you do not know what gaslighting is. Texas was warned 10 years ago to prepare for a 2011-level storm, which Texas did. The February storm was a worse storm than the 2011 storm. Texas did not withdraw from the other grids. Texas chose not to connect to the Western grid or the Eastern grid (which was not even really a thing back then). By not connecting to the Eastern or Western grids, Texas' power generation and distribution are not governed by Federal law. That keeps it cheap, but there is no safety net. You ignore Idaho, which has the 11th-lowest death rate in the United States, Oklahoma with the 16th-lowest death rate, Montana with the 19th-lowest death rate and Florida with the 24th-lowest death rate. The Dakotas probably would have been fine had they decided to take some, if any action prior or during Sturgis. Nevertheless, more people have died in Draconian lockdown Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island. It is almost like the lockdown, as it was handled in most of the country, was a useless governmental overreach designed to convince the gullible or ignorant that the state governments were doing something to fix the problem. I personally think that a more locally-focused surgical approach to lockdowns was the correct approach. I definitely think that lockdowns were necessary in certain locations to make sure that the medical infrastructure was not overwhelmed. But it seemed like the governing class almost always fell back to a one-size-fits-all shotgun approach to shutting down everything regardless of whether there is even active transmission in an area. That approach was, by and large, wildly unnecessary and is an affront to the liberty that this country was founded.
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Post by irimi on Mar 2, 2021 22:34:53 GMT -8
None with anywhere near a quarter of 100% attendance. I feel like SEC football was well over 25% And weren’t the rates of Covid cases particularly high in those places? Hmmm. Makes you think.
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Post by irimi on Mar 2, 2021 22:41:18 GMT -8
Whoops, hit the wrong button and inadvertently liked this post. Who oversees the Texas utility system? Who decided not to winterize their systems, even though they were warned to 10 years ago? Who decided to withdraw from the other grids, which worked perfectly, and which could have easily sent power Texas's way when Texas's power grid collapsed? The same state government that sees fit to open the state 100%, despite advice from the CDC not to. The Dakotas really handled it, with some of the highest death rates in the country. Keep gaslighting. I am pretty sure that you do not know what gaslighting is. Texas was warned 10 years ago to prepare for a 2011-level storm, which Texas did. The February storm was a worse storm than the 2011 storm. Texas did not withdraw from the other grids. Texas chose not to connect to the Western grid or the Eastern grid (which was not even really a thing back then). By not connecting to the Eastern or Western grids, Texas' power generation and distribution are not governed by Federal law. That keeps it cheap, but there is no safety net. You ignore Idaho, which has the 11th-lowest death rate in the United States, Oklahoma with the 16th-lowest death rate, Montana with the 19th-lowest death rate and Florida with the 24th-lowest death rate. The Dakotas probably would have been fine had they decided to take some, if any action prior or during Sturgis. Nevertheless, more people have died in Draconian lockdown Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island. It is almost like the lockdown, as it was handled in most of the country, was a useless governmental overreach designed to convince the gullible or ignorant that the state governments were doing something to fix the problem. I personally think that a more locally-focused surgical approach to lockdowns was the correct approach. I definitely think that lockdowns were necessary in certain locations to make sure that the medical infrastructure was not overwhelmed. But it seemed like the governing class almost always fell back to a one-size-fits-all shotgun approach to shutting down everything regardless of whether there is even active transmission in an area. That approach was, by and large, wildly unnecessary and is an affront to the liberty that this country was founded. Idaho got hit hard by Covid and had to send patients out of state. Not exactly a role model, especially compared to Oregon.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 3, 2021 7:45:28 GMT -8
I feel like SEC football was well over 25% And weren’t the rates of Covid cases particularly high in those places? Hmmm. Makes you think. Yea, I don't know.....were they? I dont recall hearing that sporting events with fans have been an issue. Although I admit I'm not seeking out the info.
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