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Post by atownbeaver on Jan 26, 2021 16:36:29 GMT -8
It is obvious the dude has some problems to work through. My problem with these articles is painting the man who has earned millions coaching as some kind of saint for walking away from millions. Pretty easy to make that call when you are already a made man...
besides that,
1. we know, at least at OSU, leaving the money on the table was his AD pal doing him a career solid and not dragging his name through the mud. It was quid pro quo. 2. The internet strongly believes the exact same thing happened at USU. Once again, he could of been fired, once again we offered to resign and walk away to avoid public drama.
I think the book on Anderpants is always that he rode rare generational talent at USU at QB and RB that we can know see was acquired coached and directed by Matt Wells (much like the Petersen to Hawkins dynamic) to a job at Wisconsin. At Wisconsin he survived on a first round NFL running back and NFL caliber offensive line and the shadow death grip of Alvarez keeping him in line with the Wisconsin way.
I think the weight of knowing he was a fraud is probably why the personal problems bubbled up.
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Post by billthebeav on Jan 26, 2021 17:55:04 GMT -8
Apparently Anderpants don't come with pockets. You would think big boy pants would have big pockets.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jan 26, 2021 18:30:34 GMT -8
As Mr. Chow says
Toodaloo Motherf%#*er!
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Post by atownbeaver on Jan 27, 2021 7:08:52 GMT -8
Read on reddit the rumor is twice this past season Andersen had to be found and brought to practice by his staff. He missed his own practices twice...
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 27, 2021 14:44:42 GMT -8
Read on reddit the rumor is twice this past season Andersen had to be found and brought to practice by his staff. He missed his own practices twice... Coaching can be a pressure cooker. It ain’t for the faint of heart. I’ve lost sleep from coaching 10-year-olds in the Little League State tourney! I can only imagine the stress level for someone coaching D-I football. Of course, I got over my issues with a couple of Tylenol PM tablets. GAG appears to have hit something a bit stronger.
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Post by nabeav on Jan 27, 2021 15:28:37 GMT -8
I'd encourage you all to read the full article on the Deseret News website: www.deseret.com/sports/2021/1/25/22245981/former-usu-footbal-coach-gary-andersen-refuses-payment-on-remainder-of-contractI'm not sure what Doug Robinson and Gary Andersen's relationship is, but it's clear he's very fond of the guy. What stood out to me was the lengths that Doug went to sh*t on OSU: Basically it's not Gary's fault it didn't work out at OSU, it's OSU's fault. Nevermind the fact that Wisconsin was better before and after he left, OSU was better before and after he left, and Utah State will be better before and after he left.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 27, 2021 15:55:31 GMT -8
I'd encourage you all to read the full article on the Deseret News website: www.deseret.com/sports/2021/1/25/22245981/former-usu-footbal-coach-gary-andersen-refuses-payment-on-remainder-of-contractI'm not sure what Doug Robinson and Gary Andersen's relationship is, but it's clear he's very fond of the guy. What stood out to me was the lengths that Doug went to sh*t on OSU: Basically it's not Gary's fault it didn't work out at OSU, it's OSU's fault. Nevermind the fact that Wisconsin was better before and after he left, OSU was better before and after he left, and Utah State will be better before and after he left. It’s not Gary’s fault those young ladies are so damn irresistible.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 27, 2021 16:23:56 GMT -8
Funny how the three coaches who left that "coaching graveyard" before Andersen quit in disgrace departed for the San Diego Chargers (Riley I), the San Francisco 49ers (Erickson) and Nebraska (Riley II). Succeeding at OSU sure didn't seem to have a negative impact on their careers.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 27, 2021 16:36:17 GMT -8
He's so dang lucky. If I could get paid what he's been paid, I'd jump at a chance to run a program into the ground. I'd probably be real good at it.
They could fire me after the first year and my wife and I could retire.
Some guys have all the luck.
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Post by atownbeaver on Jan 27, 2021 17:30:32 GMT -8
I'd encourage you all to read the full article on the Deseret News website: www.deseret.com/sports/2021/1/25/22245981/former-usu-footbal-coach-gary-andersen-refuses-payment-on-remainder-of-contractI'm not sure what Doug Robinson and Gary Andersen's relationship is, but it's clear he's very fond of the guy. What stood out to me was the lengths that Doug went to sh*t on OSU: Basically it's not Gary's fault it didn't work out at OSU, it's OSU's fault. Nevermind the fact that Wisconsin was better before and after he left, OSU was better before and after he left, and Utah State will be better before and after he left. Some necessary copy edits for the guy: Following the 2014 season, in which Wisconsin was 10-3, he resigned suddenly and left for Oregon State, one of which he turned into the worst program s in the country. It’s understatement to say that was a puzzling move on Oregon State's part. He left a big-time program at Wisconsin — where he was almost guaranteed to succeed (and did) — to take the job at perennial loser Oregon State, a team coming off one losing season after enjoying a streak of 8 bowl appearances in 10 years. which would be considered career suicide by A good opportunity for most competent coaches. He won only seven games there in 2½ seasons due to his unfortunately mistake of leaving his big boy pants at home.
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Post by shelby on Jan 27, 2021 18:00:55 GMT -8
Yep , I agree with that . Don't want to hear third party reports, or guesses, or rumours. Fact is, at the end of the day - he did the right thing for the schools / financially. i don't have a positive, or negative impression of ANY HEAD COACH . Like in a business , the leader gets all of the credit - however, it's the quality of the rest of the organization that drives the results ( in this case , the assistant coaches and the players ). at uo ,Cristobal is really an assistant coach . He seems to thrive on recruiting - both 5 star talent and heralded assistants .He is not good on offense and is focused more on defense . A REAL head coach cares about, and controls everything through trusted and successful assistants. I say this , because , in my opinion ANDERSON always felt shortchanged on budgeting for assistants ( forgetting the other issues ), and, he did not have the ability to manage the system himself. Quite simply , he quit coaching and quit on the team - and this may have lead to other issues . Who knows ! He realized he could not do it all himself and without any financial support .
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Jan 27, 2021 18:32:24 GMT -8
I'd wager ol' Gary has a level of uselessness he hasn't even used yet. Time will tell.........
Go Beavs!!
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 27, 2021 18:46:57 GMT -8
Yep , I agree with that . Don't want to hear third party reports, or guesses, or rumours. Fact is, at the end of the day - he did the right thing for the schools / financially. i don't have a positive, or negative impression of ANY HEAD COACH . Like in a business , the leader gets all of the credit - however, it's the quality of the rest of the organization that drives the results ( in this case , the assistant coaches and the players ). at uo ,Cristobal is really an assistant coach . He seems to thrive on recruiting - both 5 star talent and heralded assistants .He is not good on offense and is focused more on defense . A REAL head coach cares about, and controls everything through trusted and successful assistants. I say this , because , in my opinion ANDERSON always felt shortchanged on budgeting for assistants ( forgetting the other issues ), and, he did not have the ability to manage the system himself. Quite simply , he quit coaching and quit on the team - and this may have lead to other issues . Who knows ! He realized he could not do it all himself and without any financial support . E. But he got more money for assistants than Coach Riley did. So, what now? You seem like an enabler.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 27, 2021 18:49:12 GMT -8
Plus I also question how you don’t have any positive or negative impression of ANY head coach? How can that pissibly be? Even Mr.Spock would have been able to analyze the results and form a conclusion.
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 27, 2021 20:22:05 GMT -8
Yep , I agree with that . Don't want to hear third party reports, or guesses, or rumours. Fact is, at the end of the day - he did the right thing for the schools / financially. i don't have a positive, or negative impression of ANY HEAD COACH . Like in a business , the leader gets all of the credit - however, it's the quality of the rest of the organization that drives the results ( in this case , the assistant coaches and the players ). at uo ,Cristobal is really an assistant coach . He seems to thrive on recruiting - both 5 star talent and heralded assistants .He is not good on offense and is focused more on defense . A REAL head coach cares about, and controls everything through trusted and successful assistants. I say this , because , in my opinion ANDERSON always felt shortchanged on budgeting for assistants ( forgetting the other issues ), and, he did not have the ability to manage the system himself. Quite simply , he quit coaching and quit on the team - and this may have lead to other issues . Who knows ! He realized he could not do it all himself and without any financial support . This post is a great example of why we need a “downvote” option. So much wrong packed into one post.
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