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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 16, 2020 16:41:10 GMT -8
Wow, so the commenters over the last few years predicted that we’d be 3-3 this year and that they would consider that a well coached WT team? I didn’t know we had posters that owned Deloreans. Did they also predict COVID? No those commenters were happy with a 500 team in years past. So obviously they'd be more than ecstatic today. If you are satisfied with mediocrity or worse then that's what you generally end up with. So 18-13 the last two years is .500? Math.
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 16, 2020 16:50:09 GMT -8
Ok I'm sorry. You are happy with the performances over the last few years. Most power 5 schools that gave a crap about basketball would have said goodbye to wayne after the Portland loss.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 16, 2020 16:54:29 GMT -8
Ok I'm sorry. You are happy with the performances over the last few years. Most power 5 schools that gave a crap about basketball would have said goodbye to wayne after the Portland loss. Not saying WT is the answer. But which P5 schools in this century have fired head coaches five games into the season? Asking for a friend.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 16, 2020 17:02:31 GMT -8
Ok I'm sorry. You are happy with the performances over the last few years. Most power 5 schools that gave a crap about basketball would have said goodbye to wayne after the Portland loss. Yep. Surprised UVA didn’t fire Tony Bennett after losing to USF
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 16, 2020 17:06:14 GMT -8
Well that was ugly. UTSA is not a good team and the Beavs unfortunately are in the same boat. Two plays kind of told the whole story of this team thus far this season. In one Beavs run a screen up top for Ethan (might actually have been a double screen) and he proceeds to back up and launch a 3 two strides outside the line. I think the clang might still be echoing in Gill. The second was UTSA coming down on a break (2 on 2 or might have been 1 on 2) and Hunt proceeds to almost step aside and use the old matador swipe at the ball defensive technique long taught at top schools around the country.
But credit the Beavs with at least pulling out the win. One plus I saw was I still like the play of Andela and Tucker. They’re still raw and play can look ugly At times, but I like how they’re playing. And what happened to Calloo? Only saw last few minutes of first half and all of second and don’t remember seeing him in there. Did he get hurt or did WT actually bench someone for bad play?
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 16, 2020 17:13:14 GMT -8
Ok I'm sorry. You are happy with the performances over the last few years. Most power 5 schools that gave a crap about basketball would have said goodbye to wayne after the Portland loss. Yep. Surprised UVA didn’t fire Tony Bennett after losing to USF Please tell me you are not comparing Tinkle and this Beavs team to Bennett and UVA.
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 16, 2020 17:13:47 GMT -8
Ok I'm sorry. You are happy with the performances over the last few years. Most power 5 schools that gave a crap about basketball would have said goodbye to wayne after the Portland loss. Yep. Surprised UVA didn’t fire Tony Bennett after losing to USF If Wayne had tonys record there wouldn't even be a discussion about Wayne's future.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 16, 2020 17:35:46 GMT -8
Ok I'm sorry. You are happy with the performances over the last few years. Most power 5 schools that gave a crap about basketball would have said goodbye to wayne after the Portland loss. Yep. Surprised UVA didn’t fire Tony Bennett after losing to USF Well, a Natl Championship the previous year does build up a bit more street cred than Wayno’s achievements. Someone please point those out again? Public Service Announcement: He wasn’t comparing them.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 16, 2020 17:47:04 GMT -8
Yep. Surprised UVA didn’t fire Tony Bennett after losing to USF If Wayne had tonys record there wouldn't even be a discussion about Wayne's future. Whoosh. Point was that you don’t fire a coach after one loss. You evaluate it at the end of the year. And, in the current COVID environment and with the huge AD deficit, WT ain’t going anywhere for at least another year. So, you can choose to post the same thing over and over again, but you need to know that there will be no coaching change for at least another year. Maybe you should just not post and go take your frustrations out on something else.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 16, 2020 17:49:05 GMT -8
Yep. Surprised UVA didn’t fire Tony Bennett after losing to USF If Wayne had tonys record there wouldn't even be a discussion about Wayne's future. Wayne has already won a Tony. Tinkler On The Roof is a Broadway Classic.
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 16, 2020 20:11:01 GMT -8
Well that was ugly. UTSA is not a good team and the Beavs unfortunately are in the same boat. Two plays kind of told the whole story of this team thus far this season. In one Beavs run a screen up top for Ethan (might actually have been a double screen) and he proceeds to back up and launch a 3 two strides outside the line. I think the clang might still be echoing in Gill. The second was UTSA coming down on a break (2 on 2 or might have been 1 on 2) and Hunt proceeds to almost step aside and use the old matador swipe at the ball defensive technique long taught at top schools around the country. But credit the Beavs with at least pulling out the win. One plus I saw was I still like the play of Andela and Tucker. They’re still raw and play can look ugly At times, but I like how they’re playing. And what happened to Calloo? Only saw last few minutes of first half and all of second and don’t remember seeing him in there. Did he get hurt or did WT actually bench someone for bad play? No it was not pretty, but after spotting a "bad" team 13 points, the Beavers took care of business as they should have. One thing I have noticed over the years is that some teams don't like to play to contact; they don't handle being fouled well, and this is how the Beavs have played. Portland State manhandled them. Today, though, they not only played more physically, especially in the 2nd half, but despite UTSA's attempts to foul them out of whack, so to speak, our team nutted up and hit their foul shots. Also, we had some good performances by a few people coming off the bench that helped stabilize the team in the 2nd half. So I'm far from calling it ugly, I am going to say it started ugly but then then the ship was righted. Yes some people had their moments of ineptness and mistakes, but these guys know that they are fighting to be in the main rotation. This was not a lipstick on a pig moment, but a positive step for a team of many pieces still working to find out how they fit together.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 16, 2020 20:28:45 GMT -8
Well that was ugly. UTSA is not a good team and the Beavs unfortunately are in the same boat. Two plays kind of told the whole story of this team thus far this season. In one Beavs run a screen up top for Ethan (might actually have been a double screen) and he proceeds to back up and launch a 3 two strides outside the line. I think the clang might still be echoing in Gill. The second was UTSA coming down on a break (2 on 2 or might have been 1 on 2) and Hunt proceeds to almost step aside and use the old matador swipe at the ball defensive technique long taught at top schools around the country. But credit the Beavs with at least pulling out the win. One plus I saw was I still like the play of Andela and Tucker. They’re still raw and play can look ugly At times, but I like how they’re playing. And what happened to Calloo? Only saw last few minutes of first half and all of second and don’t remember seeing him in there. Did he get hurt or did WT actually bench someone for bad play? No it was not pretty, but after spotting a "bad" team 13 points, the Beavers took care of business as they should have. One thing I have noticed over the years is that some teams don't like to play to contact; they don't handle being fouled well, and this is how the Beavs have played. Portland State manhandled them. Today, though, they not only played more physically, especially in the 2nd half, but despite UTSA's attempts to foul them out of whack, so to speak, our team nutted up and hit their foul shots. Also, we had some good performances by a few people coming off the bench that helped stabilize the team in the 2nd half. So I'm far from calling it ugly, I am going to say it started ugly but then then the ship was righted. Yes some people had their moments of ineptness and mistakes, but these guys know that they are fighting to be in the main rotation. This was not a lipstick on a pig moment, but a positive step for a team of many pieces still working to find out how they fit together. Nice post, but we played Portland not PSU this year
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Post by nabeav on Dec 17, 2020 15:03:56 GMT -8
Ok I'm sorry. You are happy with the performances over the last few years. Most power 5 schools that gave a crap about basketball would have said goodbye to wayne after the Portland loss. Other P5 schools that have suffered tough losses from underperforming coaches: Kansas St.: Lost to Fort Hays St. Bruce Weber makes $2.6M and has made it to the Sweet 16 once in 9 years. His predecessor Frank Martin went three consecutive years prior to leaving for South Carolina. Georgia Tech: Opened the year 0-2 with losses to Georgia St. and Mercer. Josh Pastner makes $1.9M. Pastner has a 67-70 overall record in his sixth season and has yet to make an NCAA tournament. Pittsburgh: Lost to Saint Francis. Jeff Capel's salary is not known. Capel has yet to record a winning record at Pitt in his 3rd season This idea that "other schools" would've fired Tinkle by now is just not rooted in any basis of fact.
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 17, 2020 15:28:12 GMT -8
Not to be outdone by your list of coaches. Wayne tinkle is 42-66 in the pac12. That should have gotten him a pink slip 9 months ago. But some seem to think he is going to turn it around. He's not. The guy gets paid pretty well for a bad job. I just wish people would quit defending him
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Post by nabeav on Dec 17, 2020 15:47:51 GMT -8
Not to be outdone by your list of coaches. Wayne tinkle is 42-66 in the pac12. That should have gotten him a pink slip 9 months ago. But some seem to think he is going to turn it around. He's not. The guy gets paid pretty well for a bad job. I just wish people would quit defending him .....which is the best conference winning percentage at Oregon State by a head coach since Jim Anderson, who was pretty much all downhill after his 22-7 first season in which he inherited the best player in the nation. Again, why should the best conference record and the only NCAA tournament berth in the past 30 years warrant a pink slip? I'm tired of saying it, but I'll say it again.....who are you going to get? We've tried assistants at successful programs (Anderson, John), we've tried young up and coming coaches (McKay, Robinson). We've tried established mid major coaches with track records of success (Payne, Tinkle). Who are you getting and how do you afford him......actually maybe that's it - we have tried all sorts of MEN. Maybe we need to break ground and offer the job to Becky Hammon or Lindsay Gottlieb or Jenny Boucek.
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