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Post by mbabeav on May 29, 2020 12:52:58 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education, roughly 7% of the student population. That is almost $40 million in lost tuition, and (my guess) about a $20 million hit to the campus and Corvallis for housing, food, and ancillary spending.
Apartment prices are going to fall a lot in Corvallis, just my guess, if this happens. Stay tuned for a wild ride.
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Post by beaver94 on May 29, 2020 13:21:32 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education, roughly 7% of the student population. That is almost $40 million in lost tuition, and (my guess) about a $20 million hit to the campus and Corvallis for housing, food, and ancillary spending. Apartment prices are going to fall a lot in Corvallis, just my guess, if this happens. Stay tuned for a wild ride. Even worse timing for Corvallis with all the new apartments opening, or due to open. Add in the uncertainty of students returning in the fall or doing online classes. It will definitely be a wild ride. |
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Post by spudbeaver on May 29, 2020 19:56:43 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education, roughly 7% of the student population. That is almost $40 million in lost tuition, and (my guess) about a $20 million hit to the campus and Corvallis for housing, food, and ancillary spending. Apartment prices are going to fall a lot in Corvallis, just my guess, if this happens. Stay tuned for a wild ride. Damn! If that would have happened in ‘81 my grades sure would have risen dramatically! Missed opportunity. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 29, 2020 22:14:01 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education, roughly 7% of the student population. That is almost $40 million in lost tuition, and (my guess) about a $20 million hit to the campus and Corvallis for housing, food, and ancillary spending. Apartment prices are going to fall a lot in Corvallis, just my guess, if this happens. Stay tuned for a wild ride. What new Federal policy? Also, how many of those 1500 were online to begin with? |
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Post by irimi on May 30, 2020 7:56:55 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education, roughly 7% of the student population. That is almost $40 million in lost tuition, and (my guess) about a $20 million hit to the campus and Corvallis for housing, food, and ancillary spending. Apartment prices are going to fall a lot in Corvallis, just my guess, if this happens. Stay tuned for a wild ride. What new Federal policy? Also, how many of those 1500 were online to begin with? Not many of those students were online. INTO OSU saw about 800 international students during the 2018-19 school year. Many of those students were already conditionally admitted into OSU’s undergrad or grad programs and were improving their English skills. Of course, not all of them were Chinese—but Chinese and Middle Eastern make up the greatest portion of international students at any university right now. INTO OSU is going to take a major hit, just like every ESL program across the country. Actually, under the current administration, ESL programs have already taken a hit. In a good year, INTO OSU would see about 1000. Think of all that money coming in to the Corvallis community and OSU. At least one of my Chinese students went out and bought a brand new BMW. Had an Arab student who loved sports cars and asked me to help him understand what the car dealer had written in response to his inquiry. The dealer was just assuring him that he could pay cash for the car through his bank. I can’t recall if it was a Benz or a Porsche. Something like that. |
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Post by Judge Smails on May 30, 2020 8:27:50 GMT -8
What new Federal policy? Also, how many of those 1500 were online to begin with? Not many of those students were online. INTO OSU saw about 800 international students during the 2018-19 school year. Many of those students were already conditionally admitted into OSU’s undergrad or grad programs and were improving their English skills. Of course, not all of them were Chinese—but Chinese and Middle Eastern make up the greatest portion of international students at any university right now. INTO OSU is going to take a major hit, just like every ESL program across the country. Actually, under the current administration, ESL programs have already taken a hit. In a good year, INTO OSU would see about 1000. Think of all that money coming in to the Corvallis community and OSU. At least one of my Chinese students went out and bought a brand new BMW. Had an Arab student who loved sports cars and asked me to help him understand what the car dealer had written in response to his inquiry. The dealer was just assuring him that he could pay cash for the car through his bank. I can’t recall if it was a Benz or a Porsche. Something like that. I work downtown and their are lots of Maseratis, Ferraris, Lamborghinis and I’ve even seen a McClaren. Luxury car dealers are going to take a hit.... |
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Post by irimi on May 30, 2020 12:14:47 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education Good. How is that good? |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 30, 2020 13:32:06 GMT -8
Not many of those students were online. INTO OSU saw about 800 international students during the 2018-19 school year. Many of those students were already conditionally admitted into OSU’s undergrad or grad programs and were improving their English skills. Of course, not all of them were Chinese—but Chinese and Middle Eastern make up the greatest portion of international students at any university right now. INTO OSU is going to take a major hit, just like every ESL program across the country. Actually, under the current administration, ESL programs have already taken a hit. In a good year, INTO OSU would see about 1000. Think of all that money coming in to the Corvallis community and OSU. At least one of my Chinese students went out and bought a brand new BMW. Had an Arab student who loved sports cars and asked me to help him understand what the car dealer had written in response to his inquiry. The dealer was just assuring him that he could pay cash for the car through his bank. I can’t recall if it was a Benz or a Porsche. Something like that. I work downtown and their are lots of Maseratis, Ferraris, Lamborghinis and I’ve even seen a McClaren. Luxury car dealers are going to take a hit.... Maseratis, Ferraris, and Lamborghinis? Italian trash.  |
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Post by mbabeav on May 30, 2020 14:59:06 GMT -8
Not many of those students were online. INTO OSU saw about 800 international students during the 2018-19 school year. Many of those students were already conditionally admitted into OSU’s undergrad or grad programs and were improving their English skills. Of course, not all of them were Chinese—but Chinese and Middle Eastern make up the greatest portion of international students at any university right now. INTO OSU is going to take a major hit, just like every ESL program across the country. Actually, under the current administration, ESL programs have already taken a hit. In a good year, INTO OSU would see about 1000. Think of all that money coming in to the Corvallis community and OSU. At least one of my Chinese students went out and bought a brand new BMW. Had an Arab student who loved sports cars and asked me to help him understand what the car dealer had written in response to his inquiry. The dealer was just assuring him that he could pay cash for the car through his bank. I can’t recall if it was a Benz or a Porsche. Something like that. I work downtown and their are lots of Maseratis, Ferraris, Lamborghinis and I’ve even seen a McClaren. Luxury car dealers are going to take a hit.... Had an exchange student in high school from Norway. His sole reason for his father to fund the trip was so that he could buy a Corvette for his dad. China is not allowed/ does not allow imports of many luxury car models, but if you buy it while you are a student, say at Oregon State, you are allowed to take it home. Hence the prevalence of many expensive cars being driven by foreign students. |
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Post by mbabeav on May 30, 2020 15:02:57 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education, roughly 7% of the student population. That is almost $40 million in lost tuition, and (my guess) about a $20 million hit to the campus and Corvallis for housing, food, and ancillary spending. Apartment prices are going to fall a lot in Corvallis, just my guess, if this happens. Stay tuned for a wild ride. Damn! If that would have happened in ‘81 my grades sure would have risen dramatically! Missed opportunity. Had big block of Thai students in grad school due to one prof`s relationship with their uni back home. Not the best with having to write papers in English, but they really warped the curve in classes that were math based. |
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Post by irimi on May 30, 2020 19:37:05 GMT -8
I see that more than a half a million Chinese students study in the US. And a handful maybe are accused of "spying" according to the article. Crazy.
Sure, spies exist. Sure, the Chinese government needs to change, but what is the best way to do that? Half a million citizens living in democratic US will take back a different way of thinking about life. And let's assume that another half a million Chinese citizens are studying abroad in other countries like England, Australia or the like. This is the way to effect change. From the inside. This experience living abroad and studying abroad will change them. You cannot help but see the world differently once you have lived overseas for some time.
Perhaps we should just seal our borders. No one in and no one out. Like China did for so many years.
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Post by irimi on May 30, 2020 19:41:49 GMT -8
Damn! If that would have happened in ‘81 my grades sure would have risen dramatically! Missed opportunity. Had big block of Thai students in grad school due to one prof`s relationship with their uni back home. Not the best with having to write papers in English, but they really warped the curve in classes that were math based. When I was at OSU, there were a bunch of Thai students! I sort of got inducted into their community since, as an English major, I helped a handful of them with their papers.
I've always thought that Thai students had better control of their written English than many other nationalities' students. But yeah, in general, every other country is better at math than we are! LOL! So glad that my boys got to study math in Japan for elementary school.
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Post by ag87 on May 31, 2020 8:00:21 GMT -8
Non-political statement - under new Federal policy, the roughly 1500 Mainland Chinese students who attended OSU this past year probably will not be allowed back in the US to continue their education Good. Four years ago it was Mexico's fault. Now in 2020 it's China's fault. I'll try to remember that. |
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Post by mbabeav on May 31, 2020 10:32:19 GMT -8
President Ray just sucks at student recruiting. Needs to bring in more of those 4 and 5 star tuition types from other places, not enough Californians or foreign students from countries other than China to go around.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 31, 2020 14:05:49 GMT -8
President Ray just sucks at student recruiting. Needs to bring in more of those 4 and 5 star tuition types from other places, not enough Californians or foreign students from countries other than China to go around. If he sucks at student recruiting (which isn't really his job, but I'll play along) why have in-state and overall enrollments been at all-time highs the last couple years? Why have more Oregon valedictorians who attend school in-state chosen OSU over any other school, by a wide margin? And if you are a 4- or 5-star student from another state, why would you pay far more tuition, and forego generous scholarships that are generally available only to in-state students, to go out-of-state? (And nevermind that Oregon's state support of higher education through the general fund ranks in the bottom 10% nationwide, and is far worse than our West Coast peers). My child annually got about $3K annually in state/university scholarship aid over his OSU career, which essentially reduced his tuition by 1/3. This type of scholarship aid would not have been available to him in Washington, Nevada, Colorado, etc. I suspect the same is true for students of those states who stay in-state. If you are going to attend a state school, the in-state option will always be cheaper. If you are a 5-star student from Wyoming, for example, you can go to UW virtually for free under the Hathaway Scholarship Plan. I'm not foregoing a free in-state education to pay $20-30K elsewhere. |
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