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Post by ag87 on May 31, 2020 15:01:23 GMT -8
President Ray just sucks at student recruiting. Needs to bring in more of those 4 and 5 star tuition types from other places, not enough Californians or foreign students from countries other than China to go around. If he sucks at student recruiting (which isn't really his job, but I'll play along) why have in-state and overall enrollments been at all-time highs the last couple years? Why have more Oregon valedictorians who attend school in-state chosen OSU over any other school, by a wide margin? And if you are a 4- or 5-star student from another state, why would you pay far more tuition, and forego generous scholarships that are generally available only to in-state students, to go out-of-state? (And nevermind that Oregon's state support of higher education through the general fund ranks in the bottom 10% nationwide, and is far worse than our West Coast peers). My child annually got about $3K annually in state/university scholarship aid over his OSU career, which essentially reduced his tuition by 1/3. This type of scholarship aid would not have been available to him in Washington, Nevada, Colorado, etc. I suspect the same is true for students of those states who stay in-state. If you are going to attend a state school, the in-state option will always be cheaper. If you are a 5-star student from Wyoming, for example, you can go to UW virtually for free under the Hathaway Scholarship Plan. I'm not foregoing a free in-state education to pay $20-30K elsewhere. Only anecdotal, but my niece graduated from an Oregon high school in I think 2009. She was a good student, valedictorian out of a class of around 25, and wanted to go to OSU. To cut to the chase she went to Pacific because after grants she was paying less than half of what she would have at OSU. Then she got a master's at Texas Tech and didnt have to pay anything. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 1, 2020 13:48:21 GMT -8
Four years ago it was Mexico's fault. Now in 2020 it's China's fault. I'll try to remember that. Intellectual property theft/economic espionage are not exactly Mexico's forte.
Nice try, though!
One of the thing that USCMA does is to upgrade IP protections. I would tend to agree that Mexican economic espionage does not appear to be as rampant. (Though, that just could mean that they are better at hiding it than China.) |
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Post by irimi on Jun 1, 2020 20:53:35 GMT -8
Four years ago it was Mexico's fault. Now in 2020 it's China's fault. I'll try to remember that. Intellectual property theft/economic espionage are not exactly Mexico's forte.
Nice try, though!
So let me get this right. We're worried about losing trade secrets to China where most of our manufacturing has been taking place for decades? Hmmm.
Besides, isn't competition a good thing in a capitalist's view of the world? Some future MBA students of mine at OSU read up on this very idea and wrote papers about it. It seems that currently in the Business world, there are many who believe that collaboration and cooperation are more important than protecting trade secrets.
Military secrets, OK, that's something else. But trade secrets, nah. Competition and creativity are the name of the game these days.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 2, 2020 14:10:44 GMT -8
Intellectual property theft/economic espionage are not exactly Mexico's forte.
Nice try, though!
So let me get this right. We're worried about losing trade secrets to China where most of our manufacturing has been taking place for decades? Hmmm.
Besides, isn't competition a good thing in a capitalist's view of the world? Some future MBA students of mine at OSU read up on this very idea and wrote papers about it. It seems that currently in the Business world, there are many who believe that collaboration and cooperation are more important than protecting trade secrets.
Military secrets, OK, that's something else. But trade secrets, nah. Competition and creativity are the name of the game these days.
Wait a minute there. In one 3 paragraph post you are saying that competition is a good thing, that it and creativity are the name of the game these days while also advocating for collaboration and cooperation, which reduces competition! Which is it? |
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Post by irimi on Jun 2, 2020 14:51:22 GMT -8
So let me get this right. We're worried about losing trade secrets to China where most of our manufacturing has been taking place for decades? Hmmm.
Besides, isn't competition a good thing in a capitalist's view of the world? Some future MBA students of mine at OSU read up on this very idea and wrote papers about it. It seems that currently in the Business world, there are many who believe that collaboration and cooperation are more important than protecting trade secrets.
Military secrets, OK, that's something else. But trade secrets, nah. Competition and creativity are the name of the game these days.
Wait a minute there. In one 3 paragraph post you are saying that competition is a good thing, that it and creativity are the name of the game these days while also advocating for collaboration and cooperation, which reduces competition! Which is it? Are they mutually exclusive? Perhaps in sports. What about professional conferences and learning opportunities? Certainly, you can see them as a form of collaboration and cooperation. But do they remove the competition from the marketplace? I don't think so. |
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Post by irimi on Jun 2, 2020 14:53:44 GMT -8
So let me get this right. We're worried about losing trade secrets to China where most of our manufacturing has been taking place for decades? Hmmm.
Besides, isn't competition a good thing in a capitalist's view of the world? Some future MBA students of mine at OSU read up on this very idea and wrote papers about it. It seems that currently in the Business world, there are many who believe that collaboration and cooperation are more important than protecting trade secrets.
Military secrets, OK, that's something else. But trade secrets, nah. Competition and creativity are the name of the game these days.
You are BEYOND naive (re: the China threat). LOL! Thanks! I don't mind being called naive about propaganda. Go ahead and live your life in fear. Odds are you probably have never met a mainland Chinese person in your life. Too bad. They can be interesting people.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 2, 2020 16:19:11 GMT -8
Wait a minute there. In one 3 paragraph post you are saying that competition is a good thing, that it and creativity are the name of the game these days while also advocating for collaboration and cooperation, which reduces competition! Which is it? Are they mutually exclusive? Perhaps in sports. What about professional conferences and learning opportunities? Certainly, you can see them as a form of collaboration and cooperation. But do they remove the competition from the marketplace? I don't think so. If you have a competitive edge and you put on a seminar sharing it with your competitors, you're stupid. So yes, I think they are. I don't want to collaborate with any of my competitors, but then again, I'm an old school hard-ass. |
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Post by mbabeav on Jun 2, 2020 20:35:21 GMT -8
Benny's House sucks at recruiting 4 and 5 star posters......
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 2, 2020 20:49:20 GMT -8
Benny's House sucks at recruiting 4 and 5 star posters...... Ask not what Bennys House can do for you... |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 2, 2020 20:54:24 GMT -8
Benny's House sucks at recruiting 4 and 5 star posters...... I was one, but I committed to Benny’s House and got knocked down to a 2 star! |
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 2, 2020 20:57:30 GMT -8
Benny's House sucks at recruiting 4 and 5 star posters...... I was one, but I committed to Benny’s House and got knocked down to a 2 star! Touche' |
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