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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 7, 2020 12:26:27 GMT -8
Stanford was 6'3 6'3 6'1 6'0 and 5'8 Osu was. 6'4 6'1 6' 5'9 and 5'7 They had 6'1 on Pevic. TUDOR was fair match so was Williams and Slocum but where we didn't match up well with was 4 3. Plus their bigs could shoot outside. I see some issues with how we matched up last nite. If Taya was playing or brown would have made a big difference in several ways. Their bigs could guard well with switch offs against guards also. Meaning their bigs were good athletes. Seems like our outside shooters weren't looking for there shots and when we penetrated to kick out for the three point just wasn't there. Williams did a good job of staying close enough to Tudor that Tudor did not get a lot of touches. Both Pivec and Slocum missed a number of midrange shots that were contested but were makeable. Goodman shot well. Defense played well enough to win if Stanford's start had not been so hot (6/7, including two threes). A nightmarish first quarter (trailed 10-25) made it very difficult all night. I think that UCLA and Arizona would have been better quarterfinal matchups for Beavs, given the loss of Brown. When Pivec has to play the four, her body has to get worn down by banging defensively in the paint and on the block. |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 7, 2020 14:32:15 GMT -8
Tara with a week to prepare for the Beav's and the Beav's with no time to prepare for Stanford. Recipe for a really rough game. Didn't see much chance for a win but I wasn't going to say that out loud.
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Post by greybeav on Mar 7, 2020 14:34:45 GMT -8
Did I miss a post, did anyone find the whole Press Conference from this game?
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 7, 2020 14:38:50 GMT -8
Tara with a week to prepare for the Beav's and the Beav's with no time to prepare for Stanford. Recipe for a really rough game. Didn't see much chance for a win but I wasn't going to say that out loud. What? We've played each other twice already. SR's been here 10 years, think he knows Furd pretty well. |
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Post by amber on Mar 7, 2020 14:44:21 GMT -8
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 7, 2020 15:16:04 GMT -8
"What?
We've played each other twice already. SR's been here 10 years, think he knows Furd pretty well."
Ah, I thought there were differences between games and that's why we play them. My mistake.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Mar 7, 2020 17:29:41 GMT -8
If anyone here thinks Maddie can play center better than Morris, then they need to rewatch last night. Well either that or just look at both of them lol. Maddie had 3 rebounds just barely out of her reach in the 4th quarter alone that PM would have easily had. Then she had two point blank shots: one was stuffed for a turnover and one missed the rim completely. Morris got the ball and put it right in for an easy basket in one of her only touches.. Maddy is a nice role player off the bench. But she is NOT a center. No one here, but the guy that matters doesn't. So really I'll go with him. Morris isn't a difference maker in any way and 2min stints here and there prove nothing. There is always a two way street in speaking about a game like last night. The Beavers battled or Furd didn't crush OSU when they had the chance? To me the game was never there to be won after the 25 pt Furd 1st. Furd continued to get open looks and OSU had zero answer for Williams. The push late was as much to do with a Furd scoring drought on great looks vs great defense. Defense that was highly outsized yet Furd didn't really take advantage?! I know I'd the roles were reversed OSU fan would have been decrying not "stepping on their throat". As far as Morris in all this, she would not have changed the 1st qtr/game. Furd was hot inside and out with Dodson getting her game back. Once Jones was out with her 4th SR committed to and stayed small. Morris is in no way part of that scheme. Furd's drought and small ball are the only things that kept it a game. As for Morris transferring, I doubt it. From kids I tutor she loves OSU and is very happy on this team. They say she is one of the most positive people they know and well aware of any shortcomings. If SR and staff look to transfer bigs this off season she'll sort of know where she stands. She is in no way a Pac12 level big for an upper division team at this point. Saying her lack of playing time is even a factor in this season is as nebulous as the constant blaming of officials. Well to be fair I was making it clear she is a better CENTER than Maddie. I never said her presence alone would’ve meant we’d have necessarily won. And she absolutely IS as effective as most PAC 12 teams’ 8-9th player or 2nd big off the bench. Let’s not pretend she hasn’t improved since last year or act like like most teams have ladies who are 6’7 and can shoot pretty well within 15 feet. It’s not like she’s going to be all conference next year, but she should be a regular in the rotation when we’re short handed inside |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 7, 2020 17:37:35 GMT -8
No one here, but the guy that matters doesn't. So really I'll go with him. Morris isn't a difference maker in any way and 2min stints here and there prove nothing. There is always a two way street in speaking about a game like last night. The Beavers battled or Furd didn't crush OSU when they had the chance? To me the game was never there to be won after the 25 pt Furd 1st. Furd continued to get open looks and OSU had zero answer for Williams. The push late was as much to do with a Furd scoring drought on great looks vs great defense. Defense that was highly outsized yet Furd didn't really take advantage?! I know I'd the roles were reversed OSU fan would have been decrying not "stepping on their throat". As far as Morris in all this, she would not have changed the 1st qtr/game. Furd was hot inside and out with Dodson getting her game back. Once Jones was out with her 4th SR committed to and stayed small. Morris is in no way part of that scheme. Furd's drought and small ball are the only things that kept it a game. As for Morris transferring, I doubt it. From kids I tutor she loves OSU and is very happy on this team. They say she is one of the most positive people they know and well aware of any shortcomings. If SR and staff look to transfer bigs this off season she'll sort of know where she stands. She is in no way a Pac12 level big for an upper division team at this point. Saying her lack of playing time is even a factor in this season is as nebulous as the constant blaming of officials. Well to be fair I was making it clear she is a better CENTER than Maddie. I never said her presence alone would’ve meant we’d have necessarily won. And she absolutely IS as effective as most PAC 12 teams’ 8-9th player or 2nd big off the bench. Let’s not pretend she hasn’t improved since last year or act like like most teams have ladies who are 6’7 and can shoot pretty well within 15 feet. It’s not like she’s going to be all conference next year, but she should be a regular in the rotation when we’re short handed inside And, my only point... she's not. SR says so by who he plays. Her positive stints, if I remember, are dominated by time vs Cal. That's not a great indicator of teams OSU needs to compete with to excel. |
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Post by beavsteve on Mar 7, 2020 18:18:58 GMT -8
No one here, but the guy that matters doesn't. So really I'll go with him. Morris isn't a difference maker in any way and 2min stints here and there prove nothing. There is always a two way street in speaking about a game like last night. The Beavers battled or Furd didn't crush OSU when they had the chance? To me the game was never there to be won after the 25 pt Furd 1st. Furd continued to get open looks and OSU had zero answer for Williams. The push late was as much to do with a Furd scoring drought on great looks vs great defense. Defense that was highly outsized yet Furd didn't really take advantage?! I know I'd the roles were reversed OSU fan would have been decrying not "stepping on their throat". As far as Morris in all this, she would not have changed the 1st qtr/game. Furd was hot inside and out with Dodson getting her game back. Once Jones was out with her 4th SR committed to and stayed small. Morris is in no way part of that scheme. Furd's drought and small ball are the only things that kept it a game. As for Morris transferring, I doubt it. From kids I tutor she loves OSU and is very happy on this team. They say she is one of the most positive people they know and well aware of any shortcomings. If SR and staff look to transfer bigs this off season she'll sort of know where she stands. She is in no way a Pac12 level big for an upper division team at this point. Saying her lack of playing time is even a factor in this season is as nebulous as the constant blaming of officials. Well to be fair I was making it clear she is a better CENTER than Maddie. I never said her presence alone would’ve meant we’d have necessarily won. And she absolutely IS as effective as most PAC 12 teams’ 8-9th player or 2nd big off the bench. Let’s not pretend she hasn’t improved since last year or act like like most teams have ladies who are 6’7 and can shoot pretty well within 15 feet. It’s not like she’s going to be all conference next year, but she should be a regular in the rotation when we’re short handed inside In the short time she was in, I saw Trish get burned at least twice playing defense against Stanford. I think that is your explanation for her fewer minutes. |
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Post by lotrader on Mar 7, 2020 20:07:19 GMT -8
Well to be fair I was making it clear she is a better CENTER than Maddie. I never said her presence alone would’ve meant we’d have necessarily won. And she absolutely IS as effective as most PAC 12 teams’ 8-9th player or 2nd big off the bench. Let’s not pretend she hasn’t improved since last year or act like like most teams have ladies who are 6’7 and can shoot pretty well within 15 feet. It’s not like she’s going to be all conference next year, but she should be a regular in the rotation when we’re short handed inside In the short time she was in, I saw Trish get burned at least twice playing defense against Stanford. I think that is your explanation for her fewer minutes. Well, Maddie got burned plenty too, but to be fair to MW, she is much shorter. It wasn't a fair comparison when Trish played so few minutes. |
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Mar 7, 2020 20:58:01 GMT -8
I mean you’re both right. PM needs to improve her D (which yes....is a lot tougher when you never play more than 3 minutes at a time or for even 10 minutes in a game). But MW due to her lack of size and quickness won’t ever be able to stop anyone playing center
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Post by sewingbeaver on Mar 7, 2020 21:16:02 GMT -8
Anyone have the link to the full press conference after Stanford?
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Post by amber on Mar 8, 2020 17:31:13 GMT -8
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Post by lebaneaver on Mar 8, 2020 17:42:10 GMT -8
The DIFFERENCE to me was two-fold; Their ability to create shots, PLUS their aggressiveness at extending the D and giving our shooters very few open looks from the outside. They were very QUICK to the outside.
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 8, 2020 19:55:47 GMT -8
The difference to me was that Kiana was switched from Destiny (who was averaging 26 or so against her) and plastered herself on Tudor. They then put various lengthy bodies on Destiny and pretty much shut her down. Tara had Dodson and Hull bang on Taylor to get her into foul trouble. All of this worked very well for them.
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