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Post by dryside on Mar 5, 2020 14:18:38 GMT -8
Devils got a big lead then never got their rhythm back.Cal got aggressive and went around,over,and through them...Hope the Beavers take a lesson from that....
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Post by 411500 on Mar 5, 2020 14:27:18 GMT -8
Devils almost got bailed out in the last minute on a totally dubious Intentional Foul call against Cal..... On their final possession ASU had two wide open 3s and couldn't hit either of them....
Tapley had a charging foul called against her in the final minute, and then followed it up with a personal foul on an off-balance Cal shooter....Not a good closing minute for Tapley or ASU.....
So, in their last 2 games Cal has swept the Arizona schools.... GO BEAVS !!
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 5, 2020 14:28:06 GMT -8
It would potentially help OSU if Arizona gets upset yet AGAIN by CAL tomorrow, as AZ remains a 4th seed in the NCAA tournament.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 5, 2020 14:29:02 GMT -8
20-0 run by Cal spanning end of Q3/beginning of Q4. ASU melted down when Cal went to full court press.
Refs were atrocious down the stretch, hurt both teams.
It never hurts my feelings seeing Devils lose.
Cal I think has to be the best last place team in their conference.
Bears face Arizona next, will be their 4th game in a row against either UA or ASU.
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Post by skyrider on Mar 5, 2020 14:35:30 GMT -8
I am worried about our first round game in the PAC 12 tournament. Lately it often seems that teams are shooting very high percentages against us.
Also we are getting very little scoring production out of two of our starters (Maddie and Kat).
It would really be great if the team is able to play relaxed, shoot well, and not have to grind out an exhausting victory.
Alas, I think the reality of the situation is that, with the exception of Oregon and Stanford, any of the other teams can beat each other on any given day.
Just hope this is not the day for it to happen to the Beavers.
Also, a question. In the last OSU vs WSU game, clearly Taylor Jones was much taller and much better than the WSU players guarding her. Yet on many occasions when she would post up and be wide open to receive a pass, the pass was not made to her. Why?
Would be interested in the observations, predictions, etc. about tonight's game from other Beaver Fans.
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Post by rmancarl on Mar 5, 2020 15:06:47 GMT -8
So Arizona State loses the first game of the Pac-12 tourney against the last place team in the Pac12. Arizona State is also the only team to beat the first place team in the Pac12. Hmm, what does that tell you?
I would love to give you predictions about tonight, but I have no idea. The Beavs usually don't play that well in this tourney, but this year is so different, they may surprise. Kat and Aleah may get hot and the Beavs win by 25, or they may lose. Don't ask me, lol.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 5, 2020 15:08:24 GMT -8
If WSU's 6'5" frosh center remains out again tonight as she was last weekend, look for a heavy dose of Taylor Jones in the first half tonight. Coach Rueck will make it a point of emphasis. When he does, his players listen.
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Post by skyrider on Mar 5, 2020 15:13:31 GMT -8
If WSU's 6'5" frosh center remains out again tonight as she was last weekend, look for a heavy dose of Taylor Jones in the first half tonight. Coach Rueck will make it a point of emphasis. When he does, his players listen. I hope you are 100% right. Supposedly there is no way WSU's frosh center will be able to play, but as I stated in an earlier post, OSU did not seem to take advantage of that situation very often!
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Post by shelby on Mar 5, 2020 15:30:53 GMT -8
They were collapsing on Taylor every time the ball came into her - eventually had to go to three's and clean drives, using Taylor as a draw away from the hoop .
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 5, 2020 15:52:08 GMT -8
They were collapsing on Taylor every time the ball came into her - eventually had to go to three's and clean drives, using Taylor as a draw away from the hoop . True. When the ball goes inside to Jones, it likely won't come back out to the perimeter. Another evolution of Jones' game next year will be passing. As she gets doubled, she will need to recognize the double more quickly and kick it back to an open teammate.
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Post by skyrider on Mar 5, 2020 15:52:51 GMT -8
They were collapsing on Taylor every time the ball came into her - eventually had to go to three's and clean drives, using Taylor as a draw away from the hoop . Thank you for the observation and analysis. I watched a replay of the game again and saw that indeed the threat of her scoring easily inside was causing lots of collapsing by WSU on her and thus open 3 point shots by other Beavers. Unfortunately our 3 point shooting was not great in this game and our defense especially in the first half was terrible. That was happening even though WSU was missing their senior point guard who is supposed to play in tonight's game.
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Post by shelby on Mar 5, 2020 16:16:39 GMT -8
I think the Beavs handled hinges far better in the second half that last game.i hope the refs are able to focus on all of the swipes of the ball after we have collected a rebound or when running our offense. And, of course, we are going to have to be able to drop some key three's. Hristova can be a monster all by herself - so I hope we can contain her - Jazzmay be the answer there. We also need to defend the three point line better - the one little Hawaiian girl they had, was nailing almost everything she put up last Sunday . Go Beavers - get it started, you have a couple of winnables early - but, one game at a time !
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Post by dryside on Mar 5, 2020 16:33:24 GMT -8
So far in the first two games the officials are allowing physical play.Beavers better be ready for contact...
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Post by willtalk on Mar 5, 2020 16:45:32 GMT -8
They were collapsing on Taylor every time the ball came into her - eventually had to go to three's and clean drives, using Taylor as a draw away from the hoop . True. When the ball goes inside to Jones, it likely won't come back out to the perimeter. Another evolution of Jones' game next year will be passing. As she gets doubled, she will need to recognize the double more quickly and kick it back to an open teammate. One thing I have noticed about WCBB post players is that they often lack certain fundamentals. Especially tall and physically talented posts like Taylor. They develop habits in high school playing against vastly inferior post because that is one position where there just are not that many available. Usually they play against players who will be playing wings at the next level. They become used to just going for the shot when ever they get the ball down low. As the previous posters mentioned, when Taylor, or any other post that is a major scoring threat, gets the ball down low, the defense automatically collapses on them. It is often not that easy to recognize a double team until it's effects are felt. What I remember about really successful low post players in the old NBA, when post play was still an art, is that they would often kick the ball back out right after a touch, not even waiting for the double. This kept the defense honest and they would not automatically react each time by doubling. This way the defense would not be able to assume that the post would go for the shot every time they touched the ball in the low post. That is something you do not see very often in WCBB. One reason that post play in the womans game has not been that good is because post play has been de-emphasized in the mens game. In the women's game the post is still very important but they do not have the role models to copy their game behind. The younger girls tend to model their games after the stars in the NBA, where the traditional center no longer exists. They should go back to watching old NBA films to learn how to play the post up game. One player to watch would be Bill Walton. He really knew how to play the post. Actually Kennedy Brown, while not as much of a low post scoring threat as Taylor, was does pass the ball well from the low post position. Probably the best player to watch for that aspect of the game would be Vlade Divac from the Kings. He actually was the real difference for team. He operated as the point center with the offense flowing through him. Arvydas Sabonis was another player who knew how to facilitate from the center position. They still have some film available from that era unlike the earlier days when the post play was excellent but the available film is very poor.
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Post by grad1973 on Mar 5, 2020 17:09:51 GMT -8
The ASU loss wasn't as much them going down as Cal going up. Cal made some changes with 2 freshman who were superb defensively in full court defense. Then one of those freshman scored 20+ onASU. Cal did some good improvements Regarding Taylor's job tonite is made all the much harder for her without another big. We play 4 wings so its easier for our opponent's to defend a taylor. Have a brown type big in their takes pressure off of Taylor.
I don't Mind us using a 4 wing approach cuz We get production that way also. But to much on Taylor unless they pass to her when really open. One mans opinion
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