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Post by beavershoopsfan on Feb 5, 2020 11:21:38 GMT -8
Saw a video yesterday of Sydney watching the team's practice. What a great thing it is to have her still closely connected to the team. This year's seniors played with her in '16-'17 when she led the program to a third consecutive PAC-12 regular season title.
When her playing days are over, would love to see her coaching for the Beavs. I would imagine she could be a quality recruiter. Can't think of any player that Coach Rueck has been closer to during his tenure in Corvallis. I would expect that Jonas Chatterton and Brian Holsinger will be receiving and considering opportunities for head coaching positions in the near future.
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Post by shelby on Feb 5, 2020 11:40:53 GMT -8
Yeah she has the resume’, and the qualifications, and the experience !
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Post by willtalk on Feb 5, 2020 12:37:47 GMT -8
I think she still has a few years left in the WNBA. She has established herself as a good defender and her on ball skills have gotten better as well.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Feb 5, 2020 12:56:36 GMT -8
I think she still has a few years left in the WNBA. She has established herself as a good defender and her on ball skills have gotten better as well. Me, too. And that can only help her eventual coaching resume. Future recruits will see Wiese as an individual who can help develop to play professionally. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 5, 2020 15:05:16 GMT -8
I think she still has a few years left in the WNBA. She has established herself as a good defender and her on ball skills have gotten better as well. Me, too. And that can only help her eventual coaching resume. Future recruits will see Wiese as an individual who can help develop to play professionally. Although you can ask many many players... coaching at any level helps your coaching resume far more than playing. Being a WNBA player or playing in Europe doesn't make you a quality coach. In fact many players are not. I would suspect Syd will be someday in the distant future after she actually builds that resume. |
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Post by ricke71 on Feb 5, 2020 15:37:33 GMT -8
Me, too. And that can only help her eventual coaching resume. Future recruits will see Wiese as an individual who can help develop to play professionally. Although you can ask many many players... coaching at any level helps your coaching resume far more than playing. Being a WNBA player or playing in Europe doesn't make you a quality coach. In fact many players are not. I would suspect Syd will be someday in the distant future after she actually builds that resume. honest to God: I read this w/o looking who posted...but my brain immediately said ‘bb1111’. It’s so satisfying to be correct. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 5, 2020 15:50:23 GMT -8
Although you can ask many many players... coaching at any level helps your coaching resume far more than playing. Being a WNBA player or playing in Europe doesn't make you a quality coach. In fact many players are not. I would suspect Syd will be someday in the distant future after she actually builds that resume. honest to God: I read this w/o looking who posted...but my brain immediately said ‘bb1111’. It’s so satisfying to be correct. It's an auto post... every time a poster automatically thinks a former OSU great will automatically be a fab recruiter and/or coach. Completely different skill set. Not unattainable, but not automatic. |
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Post by 411500 on Feb 5, 2020 15:52:13 GMT -8
baseba1111 writes: "Although you can ask many many players... coaching at any level helps your coaching resume far more than playing. Being a WNBA player or playing in Europe doesn't make you a quality coach. In fact many players are not. I would suspect Syd will be someday in the distant future after she actually builds that resume."
I'm with you on the point that playing in Europe doesn't make you a quality coach....On the other hand, if you want to be a coach, playing in Europe certainly can be a big bonus. Also, I'd guess (lacking first hand experience in this matter) that having a pro career, including Europe, would be a BIG asset in landing an assistant coach, a recruiting coordinator, or something on a college basketball payroll. Once having your foot in the coaching door you've got a shot at moving up the ranks....
As well, you do not have to be a "quality coach" to be on someone's staff. But you've got to have the makings of a quality coach in someone's eye...
I'd bet money that Sydney will be on a university payroll as an assistant coach before she's 28.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by nwhoopfan on Feb 5, 2020 16:09:02 GMT -8
Although you can ask many many players... coaching at any level helps your coaching resume far more than playing. Being a WNBA player or playing in Europe doesn't make you a quality coach. In fact many players are not. I would suspect Syd will be someday in the distant future after she actually builds that resume. honest to God: I read this w/o looking who posted...but my brain immediately said ‘bb1111’. It’s so satisfying to be correct. He's right though. Katie Smith had to be one of the worst coaches in WNBA history (and she was an assistant for a number of years under Laimbeer so at least she had some previous experience) and I'd say Lindsay Whalen is flopping pretty bad as HC at Minnesota, going into it with zero coaching experience at any level. You can find some examples of former players who have thrived as coaches, but you can find plenty of examples of the opposite. Playing and understanding the game don't automatically translate into being a good coach. Some people seem to think any good PG would automatically make a good coach because they are "the coach on the floor," but it just doesn't work that way. |
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 5, 2020 16:16:48 GMT -8
Personally, I think it's the one that had to *strive* to play at that level - and succeeded - that make the best coaches. Learning to play ball from a superstar is like learning to swim from a fish. The strivers know first-hand 1) the ball skills, 2) the training/attitude and 3) the game planning. There are a few superstars who really can coach, but almost all of them are former point guard/floor general types and not star "athletes".
Syd does fit that mold.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 5, 2020 16:19:03 GMT -8
Personally, I think it's the one that had to *strive* to play at that level - and succeeded - that make the best coaches. Learning to play ball from a superstar is like learning to swim from a fish. The strivers know first-hand 1) the ball skills, 2) the training/attitude and 3) the game planning. There are a few superstars who really can coach, but almost all of them are former point guard/floor general types and not star "athletes". Syd does fit that mold. And... she's a coach's kid... right?? It's been a while so I may be off on that... |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Feb 5, 2020 16:20:12 GMT -8
The evolution of an assistant coach to head coach in women's collegiate basketball can be a lengthy process. Being able to effectively communicate and instruct nuances of the game are skills that Wiese appears to possess. Her positivity and outlook on life will certainly help when it comes to recruiting should she choose that path.
I agree that having actual coaching is normally a prerequisite for earning a spot as the third assistant coach. Katie Faulkner won't be at OSU forever. One day, Wiese may be in a position to be the best possible choice for the third assistant position at OSU, especially if Coach Rueck is still the head coach here.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 5, 2020 16:31:25 GMT -8
The evolution of an assistant coach to head coach in women's collegiate basketball can be a lengthy process. Being able to effectively communicate and instruct nuances of the game are skills that Wiese appears to possess. Her positivity and outlook on life will certainly help when it comes to recruiting should she choose that path. I agree that having actual coaching is normally a prerequisite for earning a spot as the third assistant coach. Katie Faulkner won't be at OSU forever. One day, Wiese may be in a position to be the best possible choice for the third assistant position at OSU, especially if Coach Rueck is still the head coach here. And, Syd has made a multitude of connections... OSU could be a stop on her career, 1st, middle, last. I think that the minor level club teams in Europe are a great way for women to get into the coaching game. They can assist and still play and work into HC gigs much faster as the talent pool for coaches is much more limited. Whether Syd ever coaches, at OSU or elsewhere isn't as important as she will always be a Beaver (hopefully she doesn't become a HC elsewhere in the Pac12!). |
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 5, 2020 16:35:11 GMT -8
Personally, I think it's the one that had to *strive* to play at that level - and succeeded - that make the best coaches. Learning to play ball from a superstar is like learning to swim from a fish. The strivers know first-hand 1) the ball skills, 2) the training/attitude and 3) the game planning. There are a few superstars who really can coach, but almost all of them are former point guard/floor general types and not star "athletes". Syd does fit that mold. See Clyde Drexler...... |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Feb 5, 2020 17:03:31 GMT -8
honest to God: I read this w/o looking who posted...but my brain immediately said ‘bb1111’. It’s so satisfying to be correct. He's right though. Katie Smith had to be one of the worst coaches in WNBA history (and she was an assistant for a number of years under Laimbeer so at least she had some previous experience) and I'd say Lindsay Whalen is flopping pretty bad as HC at Minnesota, going into it with zero coaching experience at any level. You can find some examples of former players who have thrived as coaches, but you can find plenty of examples of the opposite. Playing and understanding the game don't automatically translate into being a good coach. Some people seem to think any good PG would automatically make a good coach because they are "the coach on the floor," but it just doesn't work that way. Seems like they hired Whalen more for recruiting purposes than coaching purposes, hoping that her name might draw players to the program and that she may be able to convince someone to be the next great player there, but it really hasn't happened. AS you name examples of not great coaches, there are also plenty of examples of great players who have become tremendous coaches: Kellie Harper (now at Tenn.) built a great program at Missouri State and is now trying to do the same at Tennessee (she of course had a road block at NC State along the way), Kim Mulkey, Turner-Thorne, Dawn Staley, and many others. Kim spent a lot of time on the bench of her alma mater, LA Tech, as an assistant before coaching at Baylor. I think (?) Dawn was more like Whalen. Notre Dame currently has two recent alums on the bench (not sure exactly of their roles), but one is Kayla McBride who is one of the best in the WNBA. |
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