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Post by ricke71 on Jan 27, 2020 9:40:54 GMT -8
And, I'm not sure you could call her a physical rebounder. She got tons of long boards. Certainly not physical like Brown, Hunter, etc. She's definitely missed, but her importance in some areas is a bit exaggerated. Experience, team depth, versatility, toughness... but, without actually looking, over two seasons 6-7 pts and 6-7 reb/g... close? She was coming off offseason surgery early last year. Once totally healthy, she averaged 10 rebounds in our final eight games, with 15 against Boise, 14 against Washington, 13 against Arizona, 11 against UCLA, nine vs. Louisville and seven each vs. Gonzaga and USC. I'm sure some of them were contested. Those are serious numbers. We miss her dearly. Corosdale average 7.8 rebounds last year. That's more than Deven Hunter ever averaged in any season during her career. I remember that her aggressiveness / toughness picked up as last season unfolded. I particularly took note of it because I often 'flash back' to Jaamal Wilkes when I observe Corosdale play. It's that smooth style of play that belies the true level of effort. There were several instances late in the season where she ripped down contested rebounds. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 27, 2020 10:07:22 GMT -8
And, I'm not sure you could call her a physical rebounder. She got tons of long boards. Certainly not physical like Brown, Hunter, etc. She's definitely missed, but her importance in some areas is a bit exaggerated. Experience, team depth, versatility, toughness... but, without actually looking, over two seasons 6-7 pts and 6-7 reb/g... close? She was coming off offseason surgery early last year. Once totally healthy, she averaged 10 rebounds in our final eight games, with 15 against Boise, 14 against Washington, 13 against Arizona, 11 against UCLA, nine vs. Louisville and seven each vs. Gonzaga and USC. I'm sure some of them were contested. Those are serious numbers. We miss her dearly. Corosdale average 7.8 rebounds last year. That's more than Deven Hunter ever averaged in any season during her career. Yeah... because it was stated none were contested... that her averages were the same as any other player. Holy cow... find something worthwhile to pick at. If you want to state TC is the same physical presence as those mentioned keep on believing. Is TC missed? Yep. Is she the difference maker in being 6-2, 7-1 vs 4-4? Nope. This is a complete team issue. TC presence doesn't suddenly make Kat and Aleah better shooters. Doesn't have the effect of key players disappearing. The excuses for teams just being flat out better than OSU is so old. Furd has had more significant injuries than OSU and is surviving. Officials aren't bias and screwing the home team at Gill. Effing ridiculous. Sounds like a bunch of immature teens excusing away poor grades. Sorry your "teacher sux" and the "grading" is so unfair. Jeezus. OSU will have to play better. Who knows how the rest plays out. But, OSU best improve to be the 4th place team... be great to get to 3rd. Other teams are flat out better right now. Teams have recruited better, some substantially better, and could be better for some time. |
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Post by osu82 on Jan 27, 2020 11:06:17 GMT -8
Do we stay in the top 15 at this point? I can see, given the recent performances and record, that they might send us to 15 or  Doesn't really matter, just wondering .. AP #10. A bit of a surprise to me...I figured more of a drop. |
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Post by green85 on Jan 27, 2020 11:11:56 GMT -8
Do we stay in the top 15 at this point? I can see, given the recent performances and record, that they might send us to 15 or Doesn't really matter, just wondering .. AP #10. A bit of a surprise to me...I figured more of a drop. RESPECT OSU has earned it. Rueck has earned it. PAC12 is tough ... any of the top teams can beat one another anytime (Arizona, ASU, UCLA, Stanford, OSU, UO). Long season ahead before Pac12 Tourney. |
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Post by skyrider on Jan 27, 2020 11:32:58 GMT -8
They are losing close games with regularity. Also they do not seem to have the same competitive fire that some of Scott's previous teams have had.
Hopefully this group understands that they have a lot of improving to do to even make the NCAA tournament.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 27, 2020 12:15:35 GMT -8
Do we stay in the top 15 at this point? I can see, given the recent performances and record, that they might send us to 15 or Doesn't really matter, just wondering .. AP #10. A bit of a surprise to me...I figured more of a drop. That's a gift. They've lost 4 out of 5. They should not be in the Top 10 at this point. Doesn't matter that 3 of the losses were to other Top 10 teams.
Of course Tennessee moved up 1 spot after getting destroyed in the 2nd half against UConn, so pollsters probably aren't really paying any attention to what's happening.
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Post by shelby on Jan 27, 2020 12:16:27 GMT -8
1) Amp up the defense
2) Don’t pass up open shots
3) shoot the 3 and mid range 2’s
4) Quit dribbling right into the defense
Okay - never mind
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 27, 2020 12:21:26 GMT -8
They are losing close games with regularity. Also they do not seem to have the same competitive fire that some of Scott's previous teams have had. Hopefully this group understands that they have a lot of improving to do to even make the NCAA tournament. They can go under 0.500 in conference and still easily make the tourney, and they're playing 0.500 ball now, with the toughest stretch behind them. There does seem to be less clutch playmaking. Maybe that's why it seemed Taya is missed more than her stats would say ... in my memory, she often hit 3s at just the times to force defensive adjustments and loosening up the court for her teammates. As for fire, I think we should remind ourselves that this team got down by 20 in Eugene, and fought their way back and put it in doubt again. Stanford rolled over in that same scenario. I don't think there's any lack of will to win with this group, but rather they aren't confident about how to respond. The difference between them and the top of the conference with only 1 loss is that the rest have found a way to close out tight games. We've been used to Rueck's teams being really good at that, and finally that script has been flipped. Some of that has been missing clutch shots, some of that is that the league is really talented overall, and so you can't just will a victory as easily (with offensive rebounds, forcing long dry spells on opponents, etc). Bottom line is, they will either learn from it and up their games, or let it shake their confidence indefinitely and be a high risk of an early bounce in the tourney. I'm confident it will be the former. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 27, 2020 13:20:39 GMT -8
They are losing close games with regularity. Also they do not seem to have the same competitive fire that some of Scott's previous teams have had. Hopefully this group understands that they have a lot of improving to do to even make the NCAA tournament. They can go under 0.500 in conference and still easily make the tourney, and they're playing 0.500 ball now, with the toughest stretch behind them. There does seem to be less clutch playmaking. Maybe that's why it seemed Taya is missed more than her stats would say ... in my memory, she often hit 3s at just the times to force defensive adjustments and loosening up the court for her teammates. As for fire, I think we should remind ourselves that this team got down by 20 in Eugene, and fought their way back and put it in doubt again. Stanford rolled over in that same scenario. I don't think there's any lack of will to win with this group, but rather they aren't confident about how to respond. The difference between them and the top of the conference with only 1 loss is that the rest have found a way to close out tight games. We've been used to Rueck's teams being really good at that, and finally that script has been flipped. Some of that has been missing clutch shots, some of that is that the league is really talented overall, and so you can't just will a victory as easily (with offensive rebounds, forcing long dry spells on opponents, etc). Bottom line is, they will either learn from it and up their games, or let it shake their confidence indefinitely and be a high risk of an early bounce in the tourney. I'm confident it will be the former. They can, but will not be hosting 2 games at Gill at 8-10 in Pac12 play... |
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Jan 27, 2020 13:31:11 GMT -8
we are literally going to lose 1 more game max in the pac 12. Take a chill pill people. We lost 4 games because of 1 bad quarter in each of them. We will host and we will make a deep run this team is good and will be great at the end of the season.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jan 27, 2020 14:13:13 GMT -8
we are literally going to lose 1 more game max in the pac 12. Take a chill pill people. We lost 4 games because of 1 bad quarter in each of them. We will host and we will make a deep run this team is good and will be great at the end of the season. So at most they lose 1 of 2 at Maples and Pauley? Better OSU teams have lost at both over the years. Those 2 games are back to back in the middle of a 4 game road stretch. I'm not convinced they'll sweep the Arizona schools in Corvallis. I think they'll lose 2 more at least. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 27, 2020 14:17:03 GMT -8
we are literally going to lose 1 more game max in the pac 12. Take a chill pill people. We lost 4 games because of 1 bad quarter in each of them. We will host and we will make a deep run this team is good and will be great at the end of the season. So at most they lose 1 of 2 at Maples and Pauley? Better OSU teams have lost at both over the years. Those 2 games are back to back in the middle of a 4 game road stretch. I'm not convinced they'll sweep the Arizona schools in Corvallis. I think they'll lose 2 more at least. They'd basically have to be near perfect or have teams really falter to make up 3 games out of 3rd. I see 12-6 (8-2 would be a huge deal) finish and 4th at best unless another team or two falls off the map. |
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Post by beavdowg on Jan 27, 2020 14:23:40 GMT -8
I think this team is better than UCLA. I'm not impressed w/ UCLA. I think they have enjoyed a cupcake start to the Pac-12 so far. Wait until they hit the gauntlet, they'll lose some games. I think the Beavs will end in 3rd place behind UO and Stanford.
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Post by wbosh15 on Jan 27, 2020 14:26:17 GMT -8
So at most they lose 1 of 2 at Maples and Pauley? Better OSU teams have lost at both over the years. Those 2 games are back to back in the middle of a 4 game road stretch. I'm not convinced they'll sweep the Arizona schools in Corvallis. I think they'll lose 2 more at least. They'd basically have to be near perfect or have teams really falter to make up 3 games out of 3rd. I see 12-6 (8-2 would be a huge deal) finish and 4th at best unless another team or two falls off the map. I think you will know this weekend. If UCLA can split this weekend or better I think they will have an almost stranglehold on 3rd, but if they get swept in the desert they could come back to the pack. If they get swept UCLA at 12-6/13-5 becomes and much more real possibility. Also, a top-4 finish is crucial to win the pac-12 tournament, because it means the opening round bye. |
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Post by skyrider on Jan 27, 2020 14:32:32 GMT -8
In a number of years that bye did not seem to do OSU much good.
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Doesn't really matter, just wondering ..
