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Post by believeinthebeavs on Dec 6, 2019 19:40:45 GMT -8
They are freaking ahead at half price 31-15 What more do you want? Rueck has been liberal with his substituting
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 6, 2019 20:42:52 GMT -8
Last game vs Liberty and thus far vs Hawaii, two teams we should simply blow out....are too close... So are they just playing down to the completion, (they did beat a top 20 Miami team handily)? Need a bit more of a killer instinct IMHO They didn’t look lazy to me. Quite the opposite in fact. They held a good Hawaii team to 32 points. It’ll be interesting to see how Hawaii does against UW on Sunday. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 6, 2019 20:52:39 GMT -8
Last game vs Liberty and thus far vs Hawaii, two teams we should simply blow out....are too close... So are they just playing down to the completion, (they did beat a top 20 Miami team handily)? Need a bit more of a killer instinct IMHO They didn’t look lazy to me. Quite the opposite in fact. They held a good Hawaii team to 32 points. It’ll be interesting to see how Hawaii does against UW on Sunday. Not sure why? UW is crap. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Dec 6, 2019 21:00:24 GMT -8
The offense was out of synch most of the night. FT shooting was awful and 3 point shooting other than Brown wasn't good. Not a vintage night for the guards and they still won by 30+. Jones was efficient in her limited minutes on the floor and Brown had a good game.
I don't know what to make of this game. Conference schedule is rolling around soon, then we'll find out for real how good the team is.
UW probably isn't very good, but they had a decent win against Iowa. Other than one 4th quarter collapse against Tulane, they've been winning handily (against bad teams albeit). Their D has been making it difficult for their opponents. Will be interesting to see how Hawaii does against them for comparison sake.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 6, 2019 21:10:08 GMT -8
They didn’t look lazy to me. Quite the opposite in fact. They held a good Hawaii team to 32 points. It’ll be interesting to see how Hawaii does against UW on Sunday. Not sure why? UW is crap. I seem to recall they beat us in the Pac-12 tournament last year (OSU ranked #11 at the time). Melgoza is an outstanding player. Currently 6-1 and ranked 58 in Massey. They have a W vs. Massey 38 ranked Iowa. That's not upper tier Pac-12 but they're certainly not "crap". |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 6, 2019 21:41:26 GMT -8
Not sure why? UW is crap. I seem to recall they beat us in the Pac-12 tournament last year (OSU ranked #11 at the time). Melgoza is an outstanding player. Currently 6-1 and ranked 58 in Massey. They have a W vs. Massey 38 ranked Iowa. That's not upper tier Pac-12 but they're certainly not "crap". They are if you think OSU is top 5. What happened last year has zero bearing on what UW is this year. UW vs Hawaii tells you nothing about OSU. Games aren't transitive. How Hawaii does or doesn't look vs UW doesn't make OSU look better or worse. UW is a bottom tier Pac12 team. What they do vs a bad Hawaii is irrelevant 64-32 is relevant. Hence, the why. |
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 6, 2019 21:47:36 GMT -8
So how you do against one team gives you no info on how you will do against another team? Huh, hadn't heard that sports theory before.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 6, 2019 21:49:28 GMT -8
So how you do against one team gives you no info on how you will do against another team? Huh, hadn't heard that sports theory before. Is that what you got out of that? Hmmmm... no wonder you don't hear theories. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 6, 2019 21:51:44 GMT -8
I seem to recall they beat us in the Pac-12 tournament last year (OSU ranked #11 at the time). Melgoza is an outstanding player. Currently 6-1 and ranked 58 in Massey. They have a W vs. Massey 38 ranked Iowa. That's not upper tier Pac-12 but they're certainly not "crap". They are if you think OSU is top 5. What happened last year has zero bearing on what UW is this year. UW vs Hawaii tells you nothing about OSU. Games aren't transitive. How Hawaii does or doesn't look vs UW doesn't make OSU look better or worse. UW is a bottom tier Pac12 team. What they do vs a bad Hawaii is irrelevant 64-32 is relevant. Hence, the why. So what’s your point? That a 32 point win in which we gave extended minutes to Noelle Mannen and Patricia Morris wasn’t dominant enough? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 6, 2019 21:53:45 GMT -8
They are if you think OSU is top 5. What happened last year has zero bearing on what UW is this year. UW vs Hawaii tells you nothing about OSU. Games aren't transitive. How Hawaii does or doesn't look vs UW doesn't make OSU look better or worse. UW is a bottom tier Pac12 team. What they do vs a bad Hawaii is irrelevant 64-32 is relevant. Hence, the why. So what’s your point. That a 32 point win in which we gave extended minutes to Noelle Mannen and Patricia Morris wasn’t dominant enough? Lol... that's what YOU got out of "games are not transitive"... etc. Did I mention OSU's play at all? Wow. |
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Post by lotrader on Dec 6, 2019 22:11:06 GMT -8
Was at game tonight. Rueck was trying all kinds of combinations tonight, so it was difficult to get a rhythm on offense tonight. I'll say this, Beavers did a fine job communicating on defense tonight. I could hear all the screens being called out, and the switching on screens was great tonight. Holding any team to 32 points is outstanding.
I'm sure the rotation will get skinnier when PAC-12 play starts up. I think everyone played tonight that wasn't injured. Kat still trying to find her game. Her 3-point shot was off tonight. It seemed like Rueck told all the guards to drive the ball to the rim tonight. Seemed like every one of them did so at one time or another.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Dec 6, 2019 23:16:33 GMT -8
Note that this coming week is finals week - we have a bunch of academic all-stars on the team, would not be too surprised if their minds are half else where.....
On the post-game radio show (at least the part I heard as my wife and I drove home), DS (I think) mentioned how the team had decided to develop their defensive identity this game.
I saw a lot of pressing and trapping in this game that I had not seen earlier this season (and I am actually trying to figure out when I last saw the Beavers try to trap as the ball crossed mid-court, or get a 10 seconds in the backcourt call on the opponent) or even from SR teams in years past - I think this is another facet of having long-armed agile bigs (e.g. KB) that we might see more of this season.
I think this focus on defense will pay dividends later in the year....
Go Beavers!
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 6, 2019 23:26:49 GMT -8
"UW vs Hawaii tells you nothing about OSU. Games aren't transitive. How Hawaii does or doesn't look vs UW doesn't make OSU look better or worse." I have to admit that it does give me a giggle each time I read it. My thanks for that anyway.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 10, 2019 16:46:14 GMT -8
Last game vs Liberty and thus far vs Hawaii, two teams we should simply blow out....are too close... So are they just playing down to the completion, (they did beat a top 20 Miami team handily)? Need a bit more of a killer instinct IMHO They didn’t look lazy to me. Quite the opposite in fact. They held a good Hawaii team to 32 points. It’ll be interesting to see how Hawaii does against UW on Sunday. Hawaii with the road win in Seattle vs UW. 62-50. For whatever it's worth. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Dec 10, 2019 16:53:34 GMT -8
The transitive property of competitive collegiate women's basketball results in quickly installing the Beavs as a 44-point favorite when they play Washington in Gill this winter. Or, perhaps not as baseba1111 has suggested.
I do believe that Washington is improved over last season. However, Washington's shooting performance against Hawaii was historically poor with respect to its number of missed shots.
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