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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 14, 2019 18:48:15 GMT -8
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Post by blastingsand on Nov 15, 2019 9:05:51 GMT -8
Sad that there’s no buzz here about it, that’s pretty amazing!
There was a time where gymnastics was the best women’s sports team we had!
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 15, 2019 11:11:02 GMT -8
Sad that there’s no buzz here about it, that’s pretty amazing! There was a time where gymnastics was the best women’s sports team we had! There was an AD blurb sent out congratulating her... explaining her next steps to make the Olympic team and she'll hopefully be competing at OSU in 2021. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 16, 2019 8:24:12 GMT -8
Sad that there’s no buzz here about it, that’s pretty amazing! There was a time where gymnastics was the best women’s sports team we had! It’s “sad” that there aren’t a slew of message board posts about a gymnastics signee? As the one who actually started this thread, I’m sorry it made you sad. That wasn’t my intent. It shouldnt surprise anyone that very few folks follow gymnastics recruiting. I shared the post because it made me smile and hoped others would enjoy the news too. Can’t wait to see her on orange and black. |
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Post by zeroposter on Nov 16, 2019 9:05:13 GMT -8
Sad that there’s no buzz here about it, that’s pretty amazing! There was a time where gymnastics was the best women’s sports team we had! There was an AD blurb sent out congratulating her... explaining her next steps to make the Olympic team and she'll hopefully be competing at OSU in 2021. Exactly. It is very similar to the Mick Abel baseball signing. If she does show on campus, it will be very exciting. |
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Post by bennyskid on Nov 16, 2019 9:10:09 GMT -8
Gymnastics recruiting is very, very different than BB. Much less drama. No arguments about who deserves five stars. No chatter about how a particular player will fit into a coach's system. Not a lot of speculation about who will get playing time and who will get buried on the bench. So what is there to post on a board like this other than, "Do you think she'll get her Yurchenko one-and-a-half down well enough for competition?"
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Post by shelby on Nov 17, 2019 9:55:00 GMT -8
Forgetting stars and other forms of recruiting information in gymnastics, would this be the single 'most accomplished' gymnast OSU has ever landed ?
I love what Chapman does in recruiting against incredible odds ( programs that routinely get Olympic gold medalists as recruits - almost automatically ). The precision, athleticism and educational accomplishments of these young ladies is really something to appreciate, and I wish they would receive more attention.
I think they should start doing some exhibitions in PDX and also start to (not hype), bring more visibility to these young ladies accomplishments.
Fans should know that ( for me ), I find the following sports as the best to view in person , although understanding that everyone is different ).
1) Ice Hockey
2) College baseball
3) Gymnastics
4) College Football
5) College basketball
My only complaint regarding Gymnastics ? Bias in the scoring, always in the home team's favor. This can be quite egregious, and the scoring should not come from judges but rather from some digital metric system. Maybe not easy to develop and utilize on a mass basis.
However, just look at medicine , we now have robots capable of doing surgery .
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Post by bennyskid on Nov 17, 2019 16:49:48 GMT -8
Yes, Jade is certainly the biggest recruiting win in program history.
I agree that these ladies deserve more attention. Fortunately, womens college gymnastics is a rising sport. Utah sells out their 14000 seat arena for every meet - it easily draws better than their (generally decent) basketball team. Several other programs draw basketball-like crowds. The sport looks good on TV, looks better in person, and every meet is precisely 2 hours.
IMHO, the main thing holding it back is the outdated perception that it's for prepubescent girls and the (less outdated perception) pedophiles who prey on them. Better judging would be great - for goodness sake, why can't the judges use video?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 17, 2019 17:35:22 GMT -8
Utah gymnastics papers the house with thousands of free tickets. Attendance there is significantly lower for Pac-12 Championship/NCAA regional events, which require a paid ticket. This is true at most college gymnastics venues.
No harm in giving away free tickets to promote your product. But they skewer the numbers.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 17, 2019 19:49:26 GMT -8
Forgetting stars and other forms of recruiting information in gymnastics, would this be the single 'most accomplished' gymnast OSU has ever landed ? I love what Chapman does in recruiting against incredible odds ( programs that routinely get Olympic gold medalists as recruits - almost automatically ). The precision, athleticism and educational accomplishments of these young ladies is really something to appreciate, and I wish they would receive more attention. I think they should start doing some exhibitions in PDX and also start to (not hype), bring more visibility to these young ladies accomplishments. Fans should know that ( for me ), I find the following sports as the best to view in person , although understanding that everyone is different ). 1) Ice Hockey 2) College baseball 3) Gymnastics 4) College Football 5) College basketball My only complaint regarding Gymnastics ? Bias in the scoring, always in the home team's favor. This can be quite egregious, and the scoring should not come from judges but rather from some digital metric system. Maybe not easy to develop and utilize on a mass basis. However, just look at medicine , we now have robots capable of doing surgery . I’m not disagreeing with your critique of gymnastics judging but one component of high home scoring is just that athletes on their home court/field/apparatus tend to perform at a higher level than when they are away from home. Not saying it accounts for all of the difference but it is an element. I would bet if you studied “falls” on beam and bars, for example, they happen at a higher rate for any team on the road as opposed to at home. |
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Post by shelby on Nov 17, 2019 20:38:03 GMT -8
Have no idea, but would love to see the stats. The whole human scoring thing seems to be more of a beauty contest than an athletic scoring event.
Let's say we are in Corvallis. Our girl does a FLOOR routine and gets a 10.0
UCLA girl does a technically perfect floor routine, she gets a 9.8. I am just a fan, not a judge, but, to me both girls should have a 10.0 !
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Post by bvrbooster on Nov 17, 2019 21:11:28 GMT -8
Nothing new. Go back to Olympics of the 1960's and 70's, and the infamous 'Russian judge.' Scores for the best competitors from the west would go something like - 5.85, 5.8, 5.85, 5.8, and then 5.65 from guess who.
I've never much cared for sports with subjective scoring (figure skating, gymnastics, diving ...) because of the subjectivity aspect. It seems to me that competitors who are 'supposed' to get the highest scores do, sometimes with inferior performances.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 17, 2019 21:17:58 GMT -8
Have no idea, but would love to see the stats. The whole human scoring thing seems to be more of a beauty contest than an athletic scoring event. Let's say we are in Corvallis. Our girl does a FLOOR routine and gets a 10.0 UCLA girl does a technically perfect floor routine, she gets a 9.8. I am just a fan, not a judge, but, to me both girls should have a 10.0 ! Honestly do you know what comprises a “technically perfect” floor routine in the FIG Code of Points? Read up www.gymogturn.no/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/CoP-2017-2020-1.pdf |
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 17, 2019 21:21:37 GMT -8
Nothing new. Go back to Olympics of the 1960's and 70's, and the infamous 'Russian judge.' Scores for the best competitors from the west would go something like - 5.85, 5.8, 5.85, 5.8, and then 5.65 from guess who. I've never much cared for sports with subjective scoring (figure skating, gymnastics, diving ...) because of the subjectivity aspect. It seems to me that competitors who are 'supposed' to get the highest scores do, sometimes with inferior performances. Every sport with human officials has subjective scoring. Every single one. What could be more subjective than a home plate umpire calling balls and strikes, based on his mental projection of a strike zone that varies by definition from batter to batter? |
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Post by bvrbooster on Nov 17, 2019 21:35:27 GMT -8
Nothing new. Go back to Olympics of the 1960's and 70's, and the infamous 'Russian judge.' Scores for the best competitors from the west would go something like - 5.85, 5.8, 5.85, 5.8, and then 5.65 from guess who. I've never much cared for sports with subjective scoring (figure skating, gymnastics, diving ...) because of the subjectivity aspect. It seems to me that competitors who are 'supposed' to get the highest scores do, sometimes with inferior performances. Every sport with human officials has subjective scoring. Every single one. No, they have subjective officiating calls - ball or strike, charge or block, pass interference or acceptable defense ... Sometimes those have a disparate impact on the outcome of a game, more often they do not. But subjective scoring determines who wins and who loses, period. Think of a boxing match, with but 3 judges, and then consider how many truly rotten people have been connected to boxing over the last century or two. Certainly not saying collegiate sports lends itself to the fix being in, but subjective scoring does lend itself to grading being somewhat a function of preconceived expectations. |
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