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Post by sagebrush on Oct 28, 2019 7:41:19 GMT -8
Couple years ago OSP took the opportunity to run a couple OLCC liquor goons out of our tailgate area for their attitudes and causing problems. Given rent-a-cops or CPD alternatives, I'll take OSP any day.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Nov 14, 2019 6:38:07 GMT -8
And some student reactions captured in a recent Barometer article, and the obligatory quotes from OSU administration..... www.orangemedianetwork.com/daily_barometer/students-reactions-mixed-after-oregon-state-police-ends-contract-with/article_2cce9014-04e3-11ea-93c6-4b6d300abc97.htmlI personally think the following quote from the article summarizes my position pretty well: Business administration major and second-year OSU student, Connor Smith, posted on Reddit— after viewing police body camera footage of Hansen’s arrest—that he thought the case was “mishandled” and OSP was pulling their troopers after the way OSU treated them. “I felt that OSP felt OSU didn’t have their back,” Smith said. “If you’re doing any sort of contract, be it business, personal or safety, you want the person you’re in contract with to have your back.” Smith said he is concerned public safety will be negatively impacted after OSP leaves. “I mean, last year we had like what, two bomb threats? One was in the library and one was somewhere else. Schools are getting shot up and places are getting shot up,” Smith said. “I feel like it’s good to have a good state-run police force on campus. I think it’s a great asset and the fact that it won’t be here anymore is sad.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 6:48:01 GMT -8
And some student reactions captured in a recent Barometer article, and the obligatory quotes from OSU administration..... www.orangemedianetwork.com/daily_barometer/students-reactions-mixed-after-oregon-state-police-ends-contract-with/article_2cce9014-04e3-11ea-93c6-4b6d300abc97.htmlI personally think the following quote from the article summarizes my position pretty well: Business administration major and second-year OSU student, Connor Smith, posted on Reddit— after viewing police body camera footage of Hansen’s arrest—that he thought the case was “mishandled” and OSP was pulling their troopers after the way OSU treated them. “I felt that OSP felt OSU didn’t have their back,” Smith said. “If you’re doing any sort of contract, be it business, personal or safety, you want the person you’re in contract with to have your back.” Smith said he is concerned public safety will be negatively impacted after OSP leaves. “I mean, last year we had like what, two bomb threats? One was in the library and one was somewhere else. Schools are getting shot up and places are getting shot up,” Smith said. “I feel like it’s good to have a good state-run police force on campus. I think it’s a great asset and the fact that it won’t be here anymore is sad.” one of the advantages of a cow college isolated from just about everything is you don't need a police state overseeing the school. Appreciate what you have.
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Nov 14, 2019 8:01:29 GMT -8
As a dad who sent a daughter to OSU, I have to say it was a comfort to know that OSP was the security force on campus. CPD, BCSO, or any form of rent-a-cop will be a drastic step backwards IMHO. Dr. Ray wet the bed again.
Go Beavs!!
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 14, 2019 10:09:50 GMT -8
Superintendent Travis Hampton: "OSP has decided to re-deploy its resources in order to best serve the citizens of the state of Oregon,"
As was clearly stated by the OSP in the original story, the OSP pulled the plug on OSU, not vice-versa. So it seems as if the OSP needs the diapers, not Dr. Ray.
And again, please tell me how anything beyond simply giving a polite warning to a biker riding on the wrong side of the road is intelligent police work. Not a big fan of the police from any agency needlessly harassing the people it is supposed to serve for the minorest of minor violations.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 14, 2019 10:37:43 GMT -8
Superintendent Travis Hampton: "OSP has decided to re-deploy its resources in order to best serve the citizens of the state of Oregon,"
As was clearly stated by the OSP in the original story, the OSP pulled the plug on OSU, not vice-versa. So it seems as if the OSP needs the diapers, not Dr. Ray. And again, please tell me how anything beyond simply giving a polite warning to a biker riding on the wrong side of the road is intelligent police work. Not a big fan of the police from any agency needlessly harassing the people it is supposed to serve for the minorest of minor violations. Watch the video? Who over reacted? There was no intial intent of citing the rider until she went off. Funny, if she gets hit and the officer was seen as not stopping her the outrage would have been about him not serving public safety by stopping her. PS- As per several conversation with campus officers, OSP and campus, OSP had not intent of pulling out until this incident. It was not just a coincidence the two announcments were almost back to back.
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 14, 2019 12:20:28 GMT -8
Superintendent Travis Hampton: "OSP has decided to re-deploy its resources in order to best serve the citizens of the state of Oregon,"
As was clearly stated by the OSP in the original story, the OSP pulled the plug on OSU, not vice-versa. So it seems as if the OSP needs the diapers, not Dr. Ray. And again, please tell me how anything beyond simply giving a polite warning to a biker riding on the wrong side of the road is intelligent police work. Not a big fan of the police from any agency needlessly harassing the people it is supposed to serve for the minorest of minor violations. ”Hundreds of miles of one-lane, two-way 20 mph residential streets throughout the State require OSP’s vigilance to protect citizens from dangerous bike riders.”
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 14, 2019 16:27:07 GMT -8
Superintendent Travis Hampton: "OSP has decided to re-deploy its resources in order to best serve the citizens of the state of Oregon,"
As was clearly stated by the OSP in the original story, the OSP pulled the plug on OSU, not vice-versa. So it seems as if the OSP needs the diapers, not Dr. Ray. And again, please tell me how anything beyond simply giving a polite warning to a biker riding on the wrong side of the road is intelligent police work. Not a big fan of the police from any agency needlessly harassing the people it is supposed to serve for the minorest of minor violations. Watch the video? Who over reacted? There was no intial intent of citing the rider until she went off. Funny, if she gets hit and the officer was seen as not stopping her the outrage would have been about him not serving public safety by stopping her. PS- As per several conversation with campus officers, OSP and campus, OSP had not intent of pulling out until this incident. It was not just a coincidence the two announcments were almost back to back. No intent? Again, from the original story: State Police officials said they had been thinking for much of this year about terminating its contract with OSU because of personnel shortages elsewhere in the state.
"Oregon law enforcement resources are in drastic decline and our statewide offices are starving for police personnel," State Police communications director Mindy McCartt said.
So the OSP never intended to leave OSU, and is lying in its public statements?
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 14, 2019 16:35:15 GMT -8
Watch the video? Who over reacted? There was no intial intent of citing the rider until she went off. Funny, if she gets hit and the officer was seen as not stopping her the outrage would have been about him not serving public safety by stopping her. PS- As per several conversation with campus officers, OSP and campus, OSP had not intent of pulling out until this incident. It was not just a coincidence the two announcments were almost back to back. No intent? Again, from the original story: State Police officials said they had been thinking for much of this year about terminating its contract with OSU because of personnel shortages elsewhere in the state.
"Oregon law enforcement resources are in drastic decline and our statewide offices are starving for police personnel," State Police communications director Mindy McCartt said.
So the OSP never intended to leave OSU, and is lying in its public statements? Lol... it's a press release... they always tell the entire behind the scenes story! Let's just say there is pressure from inside campus to rethink this. Depending on who the next Prez is, OSP will be open to revisit the issue.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 14, 2019 21:13:52 GMT -8
So, it's OK for the OSP to lie, then. Gotcha.
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 14, 2019 21:16:24 GMT -8
So, it's OK for the OSP to lie, then. Gotcha. Don’t argue with Mr. Humble. He’s kind of a big deal according to him.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 14, 2019 22:17:45 GMT -8
So, it's OK for the OSP to lie, then. Gotcha. Don’t argue with Mr. Humble. He’s kind of a big deal according to him. I love it. You two so deserve each other. For a while I believed your intelligence outweighed your immature nature to provide almost nothing to the board. There... I was wrong! Lol🙄
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 14, 2019 22:25:38 GMT -8
So, it's OK for the OSP to lie, then. Gotcha. Let's hear your logic on how thinking about it... staff shortages... OSU incident... revisiting leaving (if it happened) is lying? Hmmmm... let's just play a possible scenario... - there's a shortage of officers; - OSP admin strategized on how and where it might make staffing work; - OSU is a possible thought in that strategy; - OSU incident happens and Prez paints OSP as the bad cop; - OSP uses that to help make a decision from multiple options; - press release states the basics without throwing OSU under the bus, unlike OSU's outgoing chump did to OSP. Gee... what a crazy conspiracy theory! I mean... just couldn't be...😏
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 15, 2019 6:27:25 GMT -8
So, it's OK for the OSP to lie, then. Gotcha. Let's hear your logic on how thinking about it... staff shortages... OSU incident... revisiting leaving (if it happened) is lying? Hmmmm... let's just play a possible scenario... - there's a shortage of officers; - OSP admin strategized on how and where it might make staffing work; - OSU is a possible thought in that strategy; - OSU incident happens and Prez paints OSP as the bad cop; - OSP uses that to help make a decision from multiple options; - press release states the basics without throwing OSU under the bus, unlike OSU's outgoing chump did to OSP. Gee... what a crazy conspiracy theory! I mean... just couldn't be...😏 Poor OSP, so very sensitive. Our mission is to serve and protect - unless we get our feelings hurt.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 15, 2019 13:34:55 GMT -8
Let's hear your logic on how thinking about it... staff shortages... OSU incident... revisiting leaving (if it happened) is lying? Hmmmm... let's just play a possible scenario... - there's a shortage of officers; - OSP admin strategized on how and where it might make staffing work; - OSU is a possible thought in that strategy; - OSU incident happens and Prez paints OSP as the bad cop; - OSP uses that to help make a decision from multiple options; - press release states the basics without throwing OSU under the bus, unlike OSU's outgoing chump did to OSP. Gee... what a crazy conspiracy theory! I mean... just couldn't be...😏 Poor OSP, so very sensitive. Our mission is to serve and protect - unless we get our feelings hurt. Yes, real snowflakes, aren't they? Sorry 7-11, if the OSP was not considering leaving OSU before they started the uproar with piss-poor police work, then I don't think our police organizations should be lying to the public by saying they did intend to leave all along.
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