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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 21, 2019 21:17:40 GMT -8
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 22, 2019 5:56:39 GMT -8
You can't build a replacement bridge without funding. That was approved less than a year ago.
You can't demolish it until the new bridge is built.
And once it had received all the pertinent information on the pros and cons of keeping the old bridge in addition to the new span, for once in its life the Corvallis City Council made the correct call, even, as expected, there were a few knuckleheads who voted to keep it.
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 22, 2019 11:51:04 GMT -8
You can't build a replacement bridge without funding. That was approved less than a year ago. You can't demolish it until the new bridge is built. And once it had received all the pertinent information on the pros and cons of keeping the old bridge in addition to the new span, for once in its life the Corvallis City Council made the correct call, even, as expected, there were a few knuckleheads who voted to keep it. I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. |
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 22, 2019 13:18:21 GMT -8
You can't build a replacement bridge without funding. That was approved less than a year ago. You can't demolish it until the new bridge is built. And once it had received all the pertinent information on the pros and cons of keeping the old bridge in addition to the new span, for once in its life the Corvallis City Council made the correct call, even, as expected, there were a few knuckleheads who voted to keep it. I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. There is a large group of very vocal and motivated people in Corvallis that believe the bridge should be preserved at all cost, because it is "historic" - the fight to get to this point where most want to be has taken more years than I have lived in Corvallis, and I came here in 1981. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 22, 2019 14:51:57 GMT -8
I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. There is a large group of very vocal and motivated people in Corvallis that believe the bridge should be preserved at all cost, because it is "historic" - the fight to get to this point where most want to be has taken more years than I have lived in Corvallis, and I came here in 1981. Saving the old bridge was originally an issue as ODOT tried to find a way to leave the bridge in place and put a new bridge next to it. This would have been a mess. However, when it was deemed that the bridge was seismically unsafe, ODOT said they would have nothing to do with moving it and the city or another party would need to acquire it and move it. ODOT has finally prioritized the bridge replacement and allocated $69 million to get it done. The fact that the city was even considering keeping the bridge and moving it to a different location at a cost of $15 to $20 million was the dumb part. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 22, 2019 16:14:27 GMT -8
There is a large group of very vocal and motivated people in Corvallis that believe the bridge should be preserved at all cost, because it is "historic" - the fight to get to this point where most want to be has taken more years than I have lived in Corvallis, and I came here in 1981. Saving the old bridge was originally an issue as ODOT tried to find a way to leave the bridge in place and put a new bridge next to it. This would have been a mess. However, when it was deemed that the bridge was seismically unsafe, ODOT said they would have nothing to do with moving it and the city or another party would need to acquire it and move it. ODOT has finally prioritized the bridge replacement and allocated $69 million to get it done. The fact that the city was even considering keeping the bridge and moving it to a different location at a cost of $15 to $20 million was the dumb part. Nobody's going to miss it. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 22, 2019 18:15:35 GMT -8
You can't build a replacement bridge without funding. That was approved less than a year ago. You can't demolish it until the new bridge is built. And once it had received all the pertinent information on the pros and cons of keeping the old bridge in addition to the new span, for once in its life the Corvallis City Council made the correct call, even, as expected, there were a few knuckleheads who voted to keep it. I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. There was also a plan to replace it in the early 2000s. City council folded to the will of several preservationists. This time it didn't happen, finally, even if my a**hole ward rep missed the vote, about the fifth major vote he's missed in the last two years or so. |
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Oct 22, 2019 18:21:17 GMT -8
You can't build a replacement bridge without funding. That was approved less than a year ago. You can't demolish it until the new bridge is built. And once it had received all the pertinent information on the pros and cons of keeping the old bridge in addition to the new span, for once in its life the Corvallis City Council made the correct call, even, as expected, there were a few knuckleheads who voted to keep it. I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. It technically is a two lane bridge, but it's just used as a one lane bridge. Won't be sad that's gone. Will help alleviate traffic out of Corvallis faster! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 18:24:27 GMT -8
I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. There was also a plan to replace it in the early 2000s. City council folded to the will of several preservationists. This time it didn't happen, finally, even if my a**hole ward rep missed the vote, about the fifth major vote he's missed in the last two years or so. You all cant see around the bend. University of Oregon has actual blueprints of a dam to be built at the mill race to create a scenic duck pond thereby making the Willamette at corvallis a dried up gully. No bridge will be neccesary. It's Ripleys Believe It Or Not stuff but I've seen the plans. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 22, 2019 18:42:31 GMT -8
I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. It technically is a two lane bridge, but it's just used as a one lane bridge. Won't be sad that's gone. Will help alleviate traffic out of Corvallis faster! Yes, it is a two lane bridge before the era of SUV’s. However, when they put larger guard rails in, It became very difficult to make that two lanes unless you’re both driving Fiats or Smart cars. It’s two lanes like some logging roads are considered two lanes. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Oct 22, 2019 18:45:37 GMT -8
Just because it's old doesn't make it historic.
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 22, 2019 19:24:14 GMT -8
There was also a plan to replace it in the early 2000s. City council folded to the will of several preservationists. This time it didn't happen, finally, even if my a**hole ward rep missed the vote, about the fifth major vote he's missed in the last two years or so. You all cant see around the bend. University of Oregon has actual blueprints of a dam to be built at the mill race to create a scenic duck pond thereby making the Willamette at corvallis a dried up gully. No bridge will be neccesary. It's Ripleys Believe It Or Not stuff but I've seen the plans. They don’t have the brains to build a dam without bringing in OSU educated Civil and Structural Engineers. Good luck with that. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 22, 2019 19:31:43 GMT -8
I know there are multiple steps for such a project. My question was more rhetorical. An ancient one lane bridge over the Willamette for eastbound traffic was inadequate 30 years ago. Surely it didn’t require 30 years to secure funding and approvals. It technically is a two lane bridge, but it's just used as a one lane bridge. Won't be sad that's gone. Will help alleviate traffic out of Corvallis faster! Two lanes?  |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 22, 2019 19:34:00 GMT -8
It technically is a two lane bridge, but it's just used as a one lane bridge. Won't be sad that's gone. Will help alleviate traffic out of Corvallis faster! Two lanes? Yep....it was |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 22, 2019 19:49:25 GMT -8
Two lanes? Yep....it was Before they added barriers on both sides. The important thing is that it is one lane now and has been that way for decades. |
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