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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 23, 2019 21:18:51 GMT -8
Thanks for the summaries 1111. So Hunt is a good player? Hunt is the best true frosh PG in some time from what I saw in brief glimpses vs this competition. Yes, better than Jaquori. Not sure on his shot, ability to get to the hoop... but, a pure PG. Handle, quick, tenacious on D, and sees and delivers. Also seems to be a leader when he's on the court.
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Post by poohappens on Oct 23, 2019 21:32:16 GMT -8
I was at the game tonight and would agree pretty much with everything Baseba1111 had to say. I was excited to see Hunt as a true point guard that could break down the D and then find the open man. looked confident.
Roberto Nelson is the first player that came to my mind as well after watching Lucas play tonight. Definitely a scorers mentality.
I also think there is some upside to Franklin who looked pretty smooth with the mid range shoot and Miller-Moore was very athletic.
Long way to go but hopeful that the team will continue to work and improve.
Go Beavs!
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Post by oandb on Oct 23, 2019 22:04:28 GMT -8
Team looked very tight and unsure of itself in 1st half. Much better effort and playmaking in 2nd half. Returnees will be fine though they were not up to game speed tonight. Coach played everyone, so kind of a limited sample on the newcomers. I thought the freshmen and JC transfer all showed some things to be encouraged about. I liked the offense better when we had Vernon or Hunt on the floor. Hunt showed some quickness and ability to penetrate and find open shooters. Tinkle, Thompson, Reichle and Lucas could really benefit.
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Post by bill82 on Oct 24, 2019 2:53:57 GMT -8
Thanks for the summaries 1111. So Hunt is a good player? Hunt is the best true frosh PG in some time from what I saw in brief glimpses vs this competition. Yes, better than Jaquori. Not sure on his shot, ability to get to the hoop... but, a pure PG. Handle, quick, tenacious on D, and sees and delivers. Also seems to be a leader when he's on the court. A leader on the court is desperately needed. If there is any possibility he can fill this role he should be starting. Gives me hope.
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Post by beavaristotle on Oct 24, 2019 6:29:14 GMT -8
tough game to read. hard to extrapolate anything when winning the game is not the only goal. probably also important to get everyone in and try different rotation, but if the beavers had wanted to go to Kyler every time he could have had 50
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 6:40:15 GMT -8
Tucker looks the part, but needs some time/confidence. Dastrup, Silva, Tucker... one or more have to develop on both ends to have inside depth. Lots of G/W play... 79-60 final This. When i look around the pac 12 and see all the talented forwards i think beavs may have a huge problem stopping them. Look at the huskies with Jaden Stewart and Isiah McDaniels. Those guys are going to eat up a Silva or a Tucker. And huskies are just average
This could get ugly
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Post by chicagobeav on Oct 24, 2019 7:03:30 GMT -8
TT looked like he spent some time in the weight room, upper body looked stronger then last year Liked what I saw coming of the bench, seemed a bit more athletic then I have seen in awhile for us. Seth looks like he could be a competitor this year, he has always had a pretty looking shot, just could not hit it consistently. Last night looked like a junior, and more confident and in control. Still waiting for Hollis to break out, guy has a PAC 12 body, has not put the play together yet.
Overall, team has some good potential, though need another big or two to step up and give credible play to be successful again better competition
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 24, 2019 7:54:06 GMT -8
TT looked like he spent some time in the weight room, upper body looked stronger then last year Liked what I saw coming of the bench, seemed a bit more athletic then I have seen in awhile for us. Seth looks like he could be a competitor this year, he has always had a pretty looking shot, just could not hit it consistently. Last night looked like a junior, and more confident and in control. Still waiting for Hollis to break out, guy has a PAC 12 body, has not put the play together yet. Overall, team has some good potential, though need another big or two to step up and give credible play to be successful again better competition Seth? Hollis? Who are these people?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2019 7:58:45 GMT -8
TT looked like he spent some time in the weight room, upper body looked stronger then last year Liked what I saw coming of the bench, seemed a bit more athletic then I have seen in awhile for us. Seth looks like he could be a competitor this year, he has always had a pretty looking shot, just could not hit it consistently. Last night looked like a junior, and more confident and in control. Still waiting for Hollis to break out, guy has a PAC 12 body, has not put the play together yet. Overall, team has some good potential, though need another big or two to step up and give credible play to be successful again better competition Seth? Hollis? Who are these people? Don't you know? sEthan Thompson Lionel Hollins
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Post by beaverinohio on Oct 24, 2019 8:06:56 GMT -8
Thanks for all the analysis of the game. Lot of newcomers and getting everyone time, so not worried about score. For the freshman this is their first college "game" experience. I'll be interested in hearing who takes a step forward in the second exhibition game.
A few things I noticed when looking at the box score are:
Shot 58% from 3 overall and 5 of 7 in second half Looks like Reichle had a pretty decent game -- 8 pts in about 13 minutes and perfect shooting on the night including a three pointer and free throw. Lucas and Tucker were only players to have a negative +/- Sean Miller-Moore, who I've been high on since I saw his tape, played 14 minutes and had 7 pts, 2 rebs, 1 assist, 2 steals and was +16 for the game -- third highest behind Thompson and KK. Others with double digit +/- were TT and Reichle. Looks like Franklin had a nice game too. Only played 10 minutes, but he was perfect from the field and scored 7 pts (though went 0-2 from charity stripe). Also had 2 rebs and a steal. The bigs besides Kelley (Dastrup, Tucker and Silva) played about 18 minutes combined and didn't exactly light the world on fire. Only Silva took any shots (1-2 from both field and FT for 3 pts), and they had 7 rebounds, 1 assist and 4 TOs.
Obviously, box score doesn't tell the whole story and competition wasn't exactly Pac 12 quality (wonder if Reichle can have that kind of stat line consistently in conference), but some things to like and proof it is a work in progress. Being outrebounded by 1 is a concern. Looked at Carroll's roster and they have 5 guys listed at 6-6 or taller, and their tallest player (6-9) didn't play. Their leading rebounder had 14 (including 7 offensive) and he is listed at 6-5.
Good news is Beavers have a weak non-conference schedule, but that means they can't have any slip ups. Unfortunately, two of their 3 toughest match ups (Iowa St. and Oklahoma) are games 2 and 3, so not a lot of time to iron out the wrinkles. At least ISU is at home and they lost a quite a few players so they'll likely be trying to find themselves too. Though they did get some good news recently -- Rasir Bolton, a transfer guard from Penn State, was granted immediate eligibility. And they have a grad transfer from Colorado State (average 16.1 ppg last year there), so cupboards not exactly bare.
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Post by joecool on Oct 24, 2019 8:50:57 GMT -8
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Post by beavheart on Oct 24, 2019 9:28:18 GMT -8
Thanks to Baseba11 and everyone for the updates! Great to hear such positive reviews! Really looking forward to seeing this team in a real game.
I didn't get to even try the link I provided earlier in the thread because I was out for the night. Apologies to anyone who didn't go to the game thinking they would just watch it online via the link I posted. I had just posted a link to the video feed that was on the pre-game article on the OSU website. Apparently it didn't work. Again, my apologies. Next time I'll wait until it's actually working before I post something like that.
Go Beavs!
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 24, 2019 10:33:12 GMT -8
Thanks for all the analysis of the game. Lot of newcomers and getting everyone time, so not worried about score. For the freshman this is their first college "game" experience. I'll be interested in hearing who takes a step forward in the second exhibition game. A few things I noticed when looking at the box score are: Shot 58% from 3 overall and 5 of 7 in second half Looks like Reichle had a pretty decent game -- 8 pts in about 13 minutes and perfect shooting on the night including a three pointer and free throw. Lucas and Tucker were only players to have a negative +/- Sean Miller-Moore, who I've been high on since I saw his tape, played 14 minutes and had 7 pts, 2 rebs, 1 assist, 2 steals and was +16 for the game -- third highest behind Thompson and KK. Others with double digit +/- were TT and Reichle. Looks like Franklin had a nice game too. Only played 10 minutes, but he was perfect from the field and scored 7 pts (though went 0-2 from charity stripe). Also had 2 rebs and a steal. The bigs besides Kelley (Dastrup, Tucker and Silva) played about 18 minutes combined and didn't exactly light the world on fire. Only Silva took any shots (1-2 from both field and FT for 3 pts), and they had 7 rebounds, 1 assist and 4 TOs. Obviously, box score doesn't tell the whole story and competition wasn't exactly Pac 12 quality (wonder if Reichle can have that kind of stat line consistently in conference), but some things to like and proof it is a work in progress. Being outrebounded by 1 is a concern. Looked at Carroll's roster and they have 5 guys listed at 6-6 or taller, and their tallest player (6-9) didn't play. Their leading rebounder had 14 (including 7 offensive) and he is listed at 6-5. Good news is Beavers have a weak non-conference schedule, but that means they can't have any slip ups. Unfortunately, two of their 3 toughest match ups (Iowa St. and Oklahoma) are games 2 and 3, so not a lot of time to iron out the wrinkles. At least ISU is at home and they lost a quite a few players so they'll likely be trying to find themselves too. Though they did get some good news recently -- Rasir Bolton, a transfer guard from Penn State, was granted immediate eligibility. And they have a grad transfer from Colorado State (average 16.1 ppg last year there), so cupboards not exactly bare. Reichle hit his last 5 shots during half time warm up, then came out and hit a 3 and a 10 ft jumper right off the bat - but his defense is still not where it needs to be. The Carroll squad hit the boards hard, and took advantage of the long rebounds off their clanking 3 point efforts (hence the 6'5" guy with 7 offensive rebounds), but when you block a dozen shots it tends to cut down on your defensive rebound stats - they had to shoot from long range. Our secondary bigs are still works in progress - we are going to have to go small at one forward spot, and Kylor hopefully has the ability to play 35 minutes a game. Miller-Moore is quick to the hoop and Hunt & Lucas are fast, with Hunt the future of our point position. Vernon kinda got lost out there, and then went down with a really, really bad cramp. For a bit my friend and I thought it was a much more serious injury, but in the second half he was on the bench and looked fine, just no need to bring him back into the game. Thompson and Tinkle were their usual solid selves, and I want to see Franklin hit shots just because of the pure joy on his face - the kid has a smile that lights up the court.
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Post by qbeaver on Oct 24, 2019 12:51:52 GMT -8
Don't be shocked if Kelley is our best NBA prospect prospect. He is improving day by day...week by week...year by year. I think we have just seen the tip of the iceberg with Kylor. His timing on defense is phenomenal.
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 24, 2019 13:24:23 GMT -8
Don't be shocked if Kelley is our best NBA prospect prospect. He is improving day by day...week by week...year by year. I think we have just seen the tip of the iceberg with Kylor. His timing on defense is phenomenal. I just loved it when Mr. 6'5" from Carroll decided to drive the baseline against Kylor. Massive rejection but I loved the kid's moxie.
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