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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 22, 2019 9:57:15 GMT -8
The game is going to be streamed on Pac-12 if you can't make it to Corvallis... VideoJust asking, is this a stream of beavers playing with themselves? No opponent? It's a genuine opponent, a school in the Frontier Conference, not an intrasquad practice.
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 22, 2019 9:57:34 GMT -8
The game is going to be streamed on Pac-12 if you can't make it to Corvallis... VideoJust asking, is this a stream of beavers playing with themselves? No opponent? Different website
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 22, 2019 10:06:15 GMT -8
If the Beavers go to the dance Wayne will get his extension and many of the same fans that are complaining now will likely say it’s a mistake because Kylor and one or both of the coaches’ kids will be gone next year and Tinkle still hasn’t proven anything because he’s a game or two under .500 in league play. There were “fans” playing that same play against Riley just about the entire time he was here. First... if WT takes this team dancing it'll take the Pac12 to play very well in preseason play and get 5-6 bids. Second... if OSU indeed makes the dance (NIT ??) I'll have to change my stance on his ability to develop individual players and team chemistry. As it'll take several players other than ET and TT to contribute... significantly. Some on this board are really downplaying (or just don't know) how much talent some teams return and recruited/transferred/return from injury. But, for WT to get to near .500 in league play overall (assuming that is your reference, because under .500 isn't dancing this season) he'll need 4-5 seasons of 3-4 games over .500 to get near that. My issue with that... he's recruiting has not improved... still 8-10th in conference with his best classes being the sons and GPII who was basically already coming. If he is 20 games under now I'm not seeing how it drastically improves without several "roughs becoming diamonds" which again hasn't happened yet in his tenure. While I didn't bother to do the math and it may well indeed take several years to get above .500 because of that one season, it's disingenuous to think there won't be some guys pointing out that under .500 record even if we go to the NCAAs or NIT for 3-4 years in a row. Now that I've looked it up, he's 20 games under, but 16 of those are from his third year. It'll take a long time to catch up even if he only loses 2-3 conference games a year, should give the complainers plenty of time to bitch before they can't use that excuse anymore.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 22, 2019 10:10:20 GMT -8
First... if WT takes this team dancing it'll take the Pac12 to play very well in preseason play and get 5-6 bids. Second... if OSU indeed makes the dance (NIT ??) I'll have to change my stance on his ability to develop individual players and team chemistry. As it'll take several players other than ET and TT to contribute... significantly. Some on this board are really downplaying (or just don't know) how much talent some teams return and recruited/transferred/return from injury. But, for WT to get to near .500 in league play overall (assuming that is your reference, because under .500 isn't dancing this season) he'll need 4-5 seasons of 3-4 games over .500 to get near that. My issue with that... he's recruiting has not improved... still 8-10th in conference with his best classes being the sons and GPII who was basically already coming. If he is 20 games under now I'm not seeing how it drastically improves without several "roughs becoming diamonds" which again hasn't happened yet in his tenure. While I didn't bother to do the math and it may well indeed take several years to get above .500 because of that one season, it's disingenuous to think there won't be some guys pointing out that under .500 record even if we go to the NCAAs or NIT for 3-4 years in a row. Now that I've looked it up, he's 20 games under, but 16 of those are from his third year. It'll take a long time to catch up even if he only loses 2-3 conference games a year, should give the complainers plenty of time to bitch before they can't use that excuse anymore. And equally, excusers to use year 3 as a crutch...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 10:10:45 GMT -8
Just asking, is this a stream of beavers playing with themselves? No opponent? It's a genuine opponent, a school in the Frontier Conference, not an intrasquad practice. Would be awesome if ESPN shows the score as Oregon State 97 Genuine Opponent 41.
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Post by beaverinohio on Oct 22, 2019 10:38:01 GMT -8
Here's the blurb on Building the Dam for this exhibition game as well as the next.
Carroll College (10/23 - Home): The Fighting Saints made it to last year’s NAIA National Championship with a 29-8 mark, but will be filing holes across the board. A duo of guards in Dane Warp, an honorable mention All-American, and Shamrock Campbell will anchor Carroll.
Warner Pacific (10/29 - Home): Traveling down from Portland, Warner Pacific will make the in-state visit to Corvallis in Oregon State’s second exhibition clash. The Knights are a fellow NAIA squad, who are coming off a 16-14 campaign under ninth-year head coach Jared Valentine.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 22, 2019 10:56:50 GMT -8
While I didn't bother to do the math and it may well indeed take several years to get above .500 because of that one season, it's disingenuous to think there won't be some guys pointing out that under .500 record even if we go to the NCAAs or NIT for 3-4 years in a row. Now that I've looked it up, he's 20 games under, but 16 of those are from his third year. It'll take a long time to catch up even if he only loses 2-3 conference games a year, should give the complainers plenty of time to bitch before they can't use that excuse anymore. And equally, excusers to use year 3 as a crutch... I don't think of year 3 as a crutch, I view it as an outlier. It happened. It cannot be denied that year 3 was played with true freshmen and a couple sophomores and no Robinson holdovers, of which there should have been at least a few under normal circumstances. I view year three as an outlier just like I view Riley's first stint, in which he inherited a team that had won 3 games in two years, as an outlier. Seasons set up for failure by previous staff shouldn't count against a coach in my opinion. Other than that one season, Tinkle hasn't had any that he hasn't topped preseason pundit expectations. He's had his four years now, if he has a bad year from here on it's on him, but I'll wait til that season actually occurs before I get too critical. The anti-Riley crowd initially complained that he was below .500, then as he got above that it was he was below .500 in conference, then as he surpassed that it was he wasn't above .500 on road games... forever the moving target. I expect to see the same type of complaints with both Tinkle in basketball and Coach Smith as he rebuilds the football team unless they actually go deep in the tournament or to a BCS bowl.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 22, 2019 10:59:51 GMT -8
It's a genuine opponent, a school in the Frontier Conference, not an intrasquad practice. Would be awesome if ESPN shows the score as Oregon State 97 Genuine Opponent 41. I did use the term "geunine" quite loosely in that post.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 23, 2019 18:13:54 GMT -8
The game is going to be streamed on Pac-12 if you can't make it to Corvallis... VideoI foolishly believed this and didn't head down to the game. Bummer.
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Post by azbeav on Oct 23, 2019 18:26:40 GMT -8
The game is going to be streamed on Pac-12 if you can't make it to Corvallis... VideoWhat happened? No livestream?
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 23, 2019 18:30:35 GMT -8
Well... KK can still dunk... we're 0-5 away from the rim, 7/12 overall... playing mostly returners the first 10 min and still 16+ sec to start an offense... Saints getting to the hoop but can't finish 4/15...
ZR two fouls in less than 5 min... OSU 4/7 FT... in bonus at 13 min mark... OSU 13-12 in boards is bothersome.
Lucas reminds me of a more athletic Berto... hit his 1st 3.
21-15 Beavs at the 7:27/8 min timeout.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 23, 2019 18:41:14 GMT -8
For those not listening... 27 up at 4 min timeout/3:39
Saints putting up more shots, shooting 37% (but 5/9 on mostly wide open threes... 32 attempts to 18), +2 in rebounds...
Beavs 6/13 from the line... Saints 2/3
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 23, 2019 18:56:20 GMT -8
For those not listening... 27 up at 4 min timeout/3:39 Saints putting up more shots, shooting 37% (but 5/9 on mostly wide open threes... 32 attempts to 18), +2 in rebounds... Beavs 6/13 from the line... Saints 2/3 What happened to 27 up? 1 point when I got here at halftime.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 23, 2019 18:56:47 GMT -8
Doh... 27 all...
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Oct 23, 2019 18:58:48 GMT -8
This is ummmm.... not good so far. Exhibition yes, but look like no one cares to be here right now.
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