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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 20, 2019 14:10:55 GMT -8
I don't recall seeing any mention of this yet. I wouldn't have known it is happening if I hadn't seen a short preview during the Seahawks game.
Not much was said other than the team could be the most talented Tinkle had had IF the newcomers perform well. In the background was #12, big kid.
Looks like I need to go to Gill at 7 this Wednesday.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 20, 2019 14:44:34 GMT -8
I don't recall seeing any mention of this yet. I wouldn't have known it is happening if I hadn't seen a short preview during the Seahawks game. Not much was said other than the team could be the most talented Tinkle had had IF the newcomers perform well. In the background was #12, big kid. Looks like I need to go to Gill at 7 this Wednesday. Hopefully... but pure talent hasn't always meant much. And... IMHO... no way can it be more talented than sophomore year of DE, TT, ST, with GPII as Sr leader/ Jack of all trades... plus experienced role players. KK may match DE's contribution, but there is no way that the newcomers/returners match the others. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 20, 2019 14:53:00 GMT -8
I do wish we had Warren Washington and JaQuori were still in the program so we wouldn't be relying on newcomers for depth, but if a couple of those new kids pan out early we could have pretty good depth.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 20, 2019 15:04:58 GMT -8
I do wish we had Warren Washington and JaQuori were still in the program so we wouldn't be relying on newcomers for depth, but if a couple of those new kids pan out early we could have pretty good depth. We need more than a couple. We need Hollins to explode to at least the level of the end of his frosh year. KK has to equal his defensive performance and actually get more offensive touches. Plus, maybe 4 to be serviceable Pac12 subs. That's a lot of IFs with the influx of talent coming in to the conference. If I had extreme confidence in WT out coaching people I'd be more optimistic. But, really can't see OSU higher than 6-7th even with a couple newcomers stepping up. Just too many holes... and newcomers typically have a real tough time guarding at this level. |
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Post by qbeaver on Oct 21, 2019 5:22:45 GMT -8
I just feel like the roster is addition by subtraction with this team. Sometimes you have kids who are talented,but disgruntled because they think they should be playing. I think we has a couple of those guys on the team who left,and aren't good for chemistry.
I like the newcomers because I think they are more team oriented and not selfish...Hunt and Lucas come to mind. Imo,we have three game changer veterans on the roster...Tres(possible league MVP),Kelley( best shot blocker/changer ever at osu) and Ethan who I think will have a breakout year.
I think the league is wide open. We won several games on the road last year(Utah,Colorado,uo) so we showed some character and toughness imo in hostile buildings. Was never a Stevie fan,and I think we can replace his scoring and be a much better rebounding and defensive team without him. Jmo
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Post by bill82 on Oct 22, 2019 5:20:48 GMT -8
I just feel like the roster is addition by subtraction with this team. Sometimes you have kids who are talented,but disgruntled because they think they should be playing. I think we has a couple of those guys on the team who left,and aren't good for chemistry. I like the newcomers because I think they are more team oriented and not selfish...Hunt and Lucas come to mind. Imo,we have three game changer veterans on the roster...Tres(possible league MVP),Kelley( best shot blocker/changer ever at osu) and Ethan who I think will have a breakout year. I think the league is wide open. We won several games on the road last year(Utah,Colorado,uo) so we showed some character and toughness imo in hostile buildings. Was never a Stevie fan,and I think we can replace his scoring and be a much better rebounding and defensive team without him. Jmo Players can also be disgruntled because the coach has lost the team. Or they favor some players over others. We have more evidence on this point. An above average player can have exceptional statistics on a team in the bottom half of the league. League MPV will go to a player with exceptional statistics on a very good team competing for the league championship. If Tres earns the league MVP we will be dancing and WT will get a real extension. And they will be "beloved" by all. Well, most. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 6:02:19 GMT -8
I just feel like the roster is addition by subtraction with this team. Sometimes you have kids who are talented,but disgruntled because they think they should be playing. I think we has a couple of those guys on the team who left,and aren't good for chemistry. I like the newcomers because I think they are more team oriented and not selfish...Hunt and Lucas come to mind. Imo,we have three game changer veterans on the roster...Tres(possible league MVP),Kelley( best shot blocker/changer ever at osu) and Ethan who I think will have a breakout year. I think the league is wide open. We won several games on the road last year(Utah,Colorado,uo) so we showed some character and toughness imo in hostile buildings. Was never a Stevie fan,and I think we can replace his scoring and be a much better rebounding and defensive team without him. Jmo Players can also be disgruntled because the coach has lost the team. Or they favor some players over others. We have more evidence on this point. An above average player can have exceptional statistics on a team in the bottom half of the league. League MPV will go to a player with exceptional statistics on a very good team competing for the league championship. If Tres earns the league MVP we will be dancing and WT will get a real extension. And they will be "beloved" by all. Well, most. No reason for any players to be disgruntled about "coaching favorites". You really think anyone on the team would begrudge the accomplishments and hard work Tres and Ethan have accomplished over the years ? Tres and Ethan are like coaches on the floor by now. Combined they are into 9 years of experience in Oregon State basketball . That's the only evidence you need. |
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Post by qbeaver on Oct 22, 2019 6:42:04 GMT -8
I was speaking about Campbell and Washington being disgruntled. Physical skills only take you so far...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 7:01:46 GMT -8
I was speaking about Campbell and Washington being disgruntled. Physical skills only take you so far... Players don't play as much as they think they should play because they are unrealistic about their ability. They transfer. They don't play as much as they think they should because they are unrealistic about their ability. A pattern reveals itself. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 22, 2019 7:13:40 GMT -8
I like gruntled players.
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Post by beavheart on Oct 22, 2019 8:06:59 GMT -8
The game is going to be streamed on Pac-12 if you can't make it to Corvallis... Video |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 22, 2019 8:30:37 GMT -8
I just feel like the roster is addition by subtraction with this team. Sometimes you have kids who are talented,but disgruntled because they think they should be playing. I think we has a couple of those guys on the team who left,and aren't good for chemistry. I like the newcomers because I think they are more team oriented and not selfish...Hunt and Lucas come to mind. Imo,we have three game changer veterans on the roster...Tres(possible league MVP),Kelley( best shot blocker/changer ever at osu) and Ethan who I think will have a breakout year. I think the league is wide open. We won several games on the road last year(Utah,Colorado,uo) so we showed some character and toughness imo in hostile buildings. Was never a Stevie fan,and I think we can replace his scoring and be a much better rebounding and defensive team without him. Jmo Players can also be disgruntled because the coach has lost the team. Or they favor some players over others. We have more evidence on this point. An above average player can have exceptional statistics on a team in the bottom half of the league. League MPV will go to a player with exceptional statistics on a very good team competing for the league championship. If Tres earns the league MVP we will be dancing and WT will get a real extension. And they will be "beloved" by all. Well, most. If the Beavers go to the dance Wayne will get his extension and many of the same fans that are complaining now will likely say it’s a mistake because Kylor and one or both of the coaches’ kids will be gone next year and Tinkle still hasn’t proven anything because he’s a game or two under .500 in league play. There were “fans” playing that same play against Riley just about the entire time he was here. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 9:32:07 GMT -8
The game is going to be streamed on Pac-12 if you can't make it to Corvallis... VideoJust asking, is this a stream of beavers playing with themselves? No opponent? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 22, 2019 9:35:19 GMT -8
Players can also be disgruntled because the coach has lost the team. Or they favor some players over others. We have more evidence on this point. An above average player can have exceptional statistics on a team in the bottom half of the league. League MPV will go to a player with exceptional statistics on a very good team competing for the league championship. If Tres earns the league MVP we will be dancing and WT will get a real extension. And they will be "beloved" by all. Well, most. If the Beavers go to the dance Wayne will get his extension and many of the same fans that are complaining now will likely say it’s a mistake because Kylor and one or both of the coaches’ kids will be gone next year and Tinkle still hasn’t proven anything because he’s a game or two under .500 in league play. There were “fans” playing that same play against Riley just about the entire time he was here. First... if WT takes this team dancing it'll take the Pac12 to play very well in preseason play and get 5-6 bids. Second... if OSU indeed makes the dance (NIT ??) I'll have to change my stance on his ability to develop individual players and team chemistry. As it'll take several players other than ET and TT to contribute... significantly. Some on this board are really downplaying (or just don't know) how much talent some teams return and recruited/transferred/return from injury. But, for WT to get to near .500 in league play overall (assuming that is your reference, because under .500 isn't dancing this season) he'll need 4-5 seasons of 3-4 games over .500 to get near that. My issue with that... he's recruiting has not improved... still 8-10th in conference with his best classes being the sons and GPII who was basically already coming. If he is 20 games under now I'm not seeing how it drastically improves without several "roughs becoming diamonds" which again hasn't happened yet in his tenure. |
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Post by beavheart on Oct 22, 2019 9:49:23 GMT -8
The game is going to be streamed on Pac-12 if you can't make it to Corvallis... VideoJust asking, is this a stream of beavers playing with themselves? No opponent? Not sure if you're just joking, but this is the link to the exhibition game tomorrow night. You're welcome bLo.  |
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