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Post by joeavocado on May 29, 2019 10:11:18 GMT -8
Is it just me, or does it seem like it's taking forever to make any progress on the new Forestry building? Work has progressed at a snails pace, I assume the final tab is going to be much higher than planned. There were some issues in framing, confirming that you never want to be the early adopter of untested technology. It always costs you more and an improved product is usually available shortly thereafter as others learn from your mistakes. At this rate the new science building in Newport will be done before the forestry building, even though they started much later.
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Post by mbabeav on May 29, 2019 10:50:26 GMT -8
Is it just me, or does it seem like it's taking forever to make any progress on the new Forestry building? Work has progressed at a snails pace, I assume the final tab is going to be much higher than planned. There were some issues in framing, confirming that you never want to be the early adopter of untested technology. It always costs you more and an improved product is usually available shortly thereafter as others learn from your mistakes. At this rate the new science building in Newport will be done before the forestry building, even though they started much later. It's a mess - I think maybe even legal issues stalling things, but maybe they are getting rid of the experiment in favor of time tested methods |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 30, 2019 6:28:44 GMT -8
Also not emphasized in "the mess" is the fact one of the few knobs to turn in response to the cost overruns and issues with new-fangled construction approaches, the building has actually had to shrink in size from original design. So not only might it come late, it might not be as suited to its purpose as originally designed.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 30, 2019 8:08:27 GMT -8
I walk by there almost every day. The back side, where it looks finished on the outside, is beautiful. It's going to be a spectacular building when it is complete and the landscaping is restored. It was probably underbudgeted in the first place. And there can be problems even with established construction processes, ie the collapsed pedestrian bridge at Florida Atlantic.
Next up, finishing the vet building expansion, retrofitting/expanding the LaSell Stewart Center, and finally taking on the west side of the FB stadium. I'm hearing we should be learning something much more concrete (ha ha) about that project by fall/winter.
OSU wants a new College of Liberal Arts building too. Retrofitting the old power plant by McAlexander would be great adaptive reuse and definitely spruce up that gateway to campus, which is not pretty.
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Post by fishwrapper on Jun 8, 2019 16:28:21 GMT -8
Next up, finishing the vet building expansion, retrofitting/expanding the LaSell Stewart Center, and finally taking on the west side of the FB stadium. I'm hearing we should be learning something much more concrete (ha ha) about that project by fall/winter. OSU wants a new College of Liberal Arts building too. Retrofitting the old power plant by McAlexander would be great adaptive reuse and definitely spruce up that gateway to campus, which is not pretty. I hate to be the one to share it, but the LaSells Stewart Center project has been 86'ed, or at least shelved in a locked cabinet in a sub-basement with no lights or stairs for which the key has gone missing. I'm told the notion that a retrofit/expansion would create the performing arts center cum classroom building started spiraling beyond the desired scope of the intended project. The hunt is now on for a parking lot to be sacrificed for a Liberal Arts and performing arts facility on the north side of the tracks. A number of projects have looked at the old power plant, but the environmental remediation that will be associated with the site, not to mention the historical district impact, suggests a long future as a white elephant. There may be some improvements to LSC in the near future, but there is little they can do with the facility without tearing it down and starting from scratch. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 8, 2019 17:15:40 GMT -8
Next up, finishing the vet building expansion, retrofitting/expanding the LaSell Stewart Center, and finally taking on the west side of the FB stadium. I'm hearing we should be learning something much more concrete (ha ha) about that project by fall/winter. OSU wants a new College of Liberal Arts building too. Retrofitting the old power plant by McAlexander would be great adaptive reuse and definitely spruce up that gateway to campus, which is not pretty. I hate to be the one to share it, but the LaSells Stewart Center project has been 86'ed, or at least shelved in a locked cabinet in a sub-basement with no lights or stairs for which the key has gone missing. I'm told the notion that a retrofit/expansion would create the performing arts center cum classroom building started spiraling beyond the desired scope of the intended project. The hunt is now on for a parking lot to be sacrificed for a Liberal Arts and performing arts facility on the north side of the tracks. A number of projects have looked at the old power plant, but the environmental remediation that will be associated with the site, not to mention the historical district impact, suggests a long future as a white elephant. There may be some improvements to LSC in the near future, but there is little they can do with the facility without tearing it down and starting from scratch. Had not heard that about the LSC project. Too bad. The current motor pool site would work for a FAC. Move the motor pool out to the old Foundation building on 35th, there's ample parking out there for the fleet and if you are picking up/dropping off a car you don't need to be on central campus. Going to be some more good news as far as campus-related projects (non-athletic) in the near future. |
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Post by fishwrapper on Jul 2, 2019 9:10:24 GMT -8
Here's the latest on the Arts center project, which was originally thought to be planned for LSC:
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 2, 2019 9:29:02 GMT -8
Here's the latest on the Arts center project, which was originally thought to be planned for LSC:
So, where the area of the old print shop, State Police office, lots of free parking for Gill, etc?  And, already the worst intersection on campus even with a light... hmmmmmmm |
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Post by OSUprof on Jul 2, 2019 10:17:50 GMT -8
This will located on the northwest corner of the intersection in an area currently occupied by facilities services. Facilities services are being moved elsewhere on campus. The existing parking lots are located to the west (Goss), and east.
As baseball suggests, they will need much better traffic control and flow paths to be installed for this location to be effective.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 2, 2019 10:48:02 GMT -8
This will located on the northwest corner of the intersection in an area currently occupied by facilities services. Facilities services are being moved elsewhere on campus. The existing parking lots are located to the west (Goss), and east.
As baseball suggests, they will need much better traffic control and flow paths to be installed for this location to be effective.
Nice... at least for me as I like the lots to the south tucked behind the State Police and dorms. Convenient, free, usually plenty of spaces, and easy in and out options. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 2, 2019 10:52:51 GMT -8
NW corner of the intersection, current site of the maintenance buildings and open space that several years ago was going to be repurposed into a small park. Perhaps the old power plant will be demolished for additional parking, which would not be a bad thing, since apparently remediation/adaptive reuse of that building is cost-prohibitive.
Perhaps not the 100% best site, but it will most certainly spruce up that entrance to campus, which is presently an eyesore.
Hard to foresee a NIMBY reaction to this, but then again, this is Corvallis, where presently residents who for years complained there isn't enough housing on campus are now fighting a proposal to add a dorm that would create exactly what they wanted, more campus housing.
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Post by fishwrapper on Jul 2, 2019 20:25:30 GMT -8
Demolishing the old plant will take a bit longer as it is part of the Historic District, plus hazmat remediation. I would not be surprised to see the old plant stay.
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Post by OSUprof on Jul 3, 2019 8:23:17 GMT -8
Perhaps not the 100% best site, but it will most certainly spruce up that entrance to campus, which is presently an eyesore. Hard to foresee a NIMBY reaction to this, but then again, this is Corvallis, where presently residents who for years complained there isn't enough housing on campus are now fighting a proposal to add a dorm that would create exactly what they wanted, more campus housing. The importance of the eyesore factor should not be underestimated in the selection of this site. I suspect that the denizens of the tower at Kerr voted for this option.
You nailed it on the dorm issue. What the heck is wrong with people?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 3, 2019 17:27:19 GMT -8
It's Corvallis. Those same people are supposedly big advocates of "open space" in that area. But they also fought to prevent the demolition of the Sunflower House, the removal of which created open space.
They keep trying to pass the area of planned dorm construction off as "Lower Campus." Lower campus starts on 11th Street, at the Jensen Gate. Not between 9th and 11th, which already has lots of buildings on it between Madison and Jefferson avenues, and an existing alley between Madison and Monroe that obviously was meant to serve the houses that once stood on the block.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jul 10, 2019 13:27:01 GMT -8
I too am very puzzled by the reaction to the proposed OSU upper division housing proposal.
Would truly allow students to not bring cars.
Would likely add more customer traffic to downtown, nearby churches etc.
Would create a really nice green space/quad area bordered by a stable community/neighborhood.
But to hear the locals talk about it, the one last bit of green space in Corvallis is about to get paved over.
Sigh.
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