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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 23, 2019 18:44:02 GMT -8
Taya has really developed into a very good well rounded player. She can fill the stat sheet. If she is off on her shooting she grabs even more rebounds. She has become a rebounding machine Her defense has improved immensely. She is getting better at not getting into foul trouble early in games. I think that next year the line for the 4 starts behind Taya. I do too. I think Taya can and will improve so much more, too. I think she has had a little bit of a tough time adjusting to life without Gulich. If you think about it, Gulich was pretty darn special. She was pretty unstoppable going 1 on 1, she was a great passer, she had great hands, and those two just complemented each other really, really well. She makes some interior passes that Jo struggles with, but were relatively easy catches for Marie, and she had a lot of open looks when her defender would sag off for Marie. Her rebounding has been huge for us this year, but I think she can expand her offensive skill set even more, because she is so versatile. I think this year has actually limited Scott’s playbook a little because he ran a lot of plays a season ago where Marie was getting screens and post-iso and we just don’t have a 5 that can do that this season. A season ago, teams really had to decide if they wanted to stop Marie or the shooters. Without a 5 that can really create their own shot, there is no reason for the defenders to sag off. |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 23, 2019 18:48:03 GMT -8
What about drove me crazy was all of the baseline driving. Seems like most of their TO's happened while being trapped down there. Three times wild passes that were to whoever could get to it (it wasn't Beav's) because they couldn't even see anyone to pass to. But yeah, on to Gonzaga!
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 23, 2019 19:03:25 GMT -8
So many of our TOs are unforced which is the killer. As simple as keeping your dribble for a few.
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Post by beavsteve on Mar 23, 2019 19:12:19 GMT -8
So many of our TOs are unforced which is the killer. As simple as keeping your dribble for a few. Also avoiding baseline and corner traps and clearly risky passes. |
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Post by lotrader on Mar 23, 2019 19:19:29 GMT -8
Maddie Washington started, and had a great game. Not sure why Rueck played her so few minutes today, when she was clearly in to the game, and making a difference? Much credit to Boise State. That was the best 13 seed team I have ever seen in the NCAA D1 Tournament. Glad Beavs pulled it out, but feel sorry that Boise State didn't get seeded better. BSU deserves another game.
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Post by beavadelic on Mar 23, 2019 19:45:40 GMT -8
Pivec. On the-boneyard most of the ‘independent’ observers of the game have made the same observation. If that was “home cooking”, then a whole lot of that happens every game. Boise player has ball poked at from the backside (no foul there), she bobbles it and she and Mik both scrap for it. It’s twice as physical on half of the rebounds all game long. My guess is that those “independent” observers were probably in a similar place as the announcers on TV. They couldn’t stop gushing about the Boise Cinderella story down the stretch. They were fine, but you could tell that they were loving the possibility of the Beavs getting upset. When you like to see the underdog win, every 50/50 call made by the officials seems more like 80/20 in favor of Cinder- ella. Calls that wouldn’t have even drawn attention earlier in the game get over-analyzed. |
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Post by beavadelic on Mar 23, 2019 19:50:09 GMT -8
Consider: OT victory took 45 minutes total playing time to achieve. Taya Corosdale: 45 minutes, 15 rebounds / 13 points / 4 blocked shots / 4 assists. That’s a nice stat line. Good for Taya. She came up big down the stretch. She was probably just the most visible of our players in one stretch earlier in the 4th period when she turned it over, hesitated with the ball and got burned and committed a foul. The whole team just went into collective funk for about 10 minutes of game time, and Boise’s feisty squad was an eyelash from shutting the door on us. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 23, 2019 20:00:13 GMT -8
I think Rueck just does not like using Maddie at the 5. I thought it worked pretty well today too, but she only got 14 minutes. I think she is kind of a tweener. She doesnt really have the speed or skill to play on the perimeter, but she doesn’t really have the size to play inside. Minutes will likely be hard to come by for Maddie and Janessa next season.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 23, 2019 20:14:01 GMT -8
I expected us to get out our funk, but we are not out of the woods yet.
3 pt shooting started picking up late thanks to the low-pressure desperation heave from Aleah going down.
But a real indicator of our funk was at the FT line......though again, I am optimistic seeing what happened late.
Boise State was very well coached - they took advantage of a couple of our weaknesses.....
First and foremost, we pick up our dribble on the set pieces, and BSU would disrupt the passing lane to where the ball was intended to go next and quickly double the ball handler. DS was able to split the double on occasion, but some of the other guards gave up some turnovers - and ones of the worst kind, where the opposing team is racing down the floor with only a few defenders back.
The other was BSU was able to rub the perimeter defender off a high screen and take elbow jumpers, and both of their guards (#20 and #21) were able to make hay from the elbow on those as our defender would then be trailing. I expected a few more moving screens to be called, but few were.......
The refs really let the teams play, and this was to BSU's advantage. Not because the refs favored BSU (at least I didn't think they did), but because BSU seems to be one of those gritty, tough, handsy, physical teams......now I have exactly 1 data point on this, what I saw at Gill today, but at least they seemed to be that sort of team today. We, on the other hand, play a relatively "clean" game, where we try to make opponents shoot difficult shots, but we don't seem to play that gritty "on the edge" style. So when refs let teams play, those "on the edge" teams benefit even more. Perhaps that is why we struggle a bit in the first game, since we have to adjust.
What heartened me and makes me believe we are on the cusp of breaking out again is the following - at different times in this game, different people stepped up. We had Maddie going to the hoop early, and being more aggressive (and successful, as a result). We had Taya rebounding early and hitting FTs late. We had Aleah continue to pound away from outside, DS drive, Mik be Mik, Jo present a mismatch......all at different times as BSU would counter. Once they harmonize, good things will start to flow, not just occur in fits and starts.
I marvel at how far this team has come with some known challenges - Kat out. Newcomers redshirting or making relative little impact (counting DS as arriving last year to make that statement weakly true, mind you), a senior who plateaued though all were expecting a Gulich-esque step forward. I also don't think the Beavers are done yet.
I sure hope KTMac has a game just like Senior night or Lamar last year, for this truly is the very last time she will take to the floor at Gill in a Beaver uniform......
Go Beavers!
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Post by bvrbooster on Mar 23, 2019 20:29:31 GMT -8
Boise definitely deserved a higher seed. Their RPI was something like 39, their conference is respectable, they won its tournament, and they were 28 - 4 coming in. They're a much better team than 12 seed Arkansas, Little Rock. I would have placed them as a 10 seed, and I think they'd win about 60% of the time against a 7 seed at a neutral court.
This year, however, marks the 74th consecutive year neither the men's or women's selection committee has called seeking my learned input.
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 23, 2019 22:05:38 GMT -8
My guess is that Maddie was pulled because BSU was repeatedly scoring over her. She provides more offense but she is just too short to play great inside D like Jo. I don't think they even tried a layup when Jo was in there.
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Post by willtalk on Mar 24, 2019 9:27:10 GMT -8
My guess is that Maddie was pulled because BSU was repeatedly scoring over her. She provides more offense but she is just too short to play great inside D like Jo. I don't think they even tried a layup when Jo was in there. That's pretty much it. She did play well initially and was a positive until her shots quit dropping. She is sort of streaky. She also held up relatively well until Boise put Bowers back in and she went at Maddie twice in a row, scoring once and going to the free throw line on the other. It was evident that Maddie would not be able to handle her and that along with her not scoring anymore give reason to pull her out. Scott put her back in for a short time again, but pulled her right out quickly when she was caught out of position costing an uncontested lay up. They did not really go at her till a point in the second half and when that became evident Scott had to pull her because Oregon St can not afford to help in the middle defensively. 6'3" Bowers is too big with too many post moves for Maddie to handle. And it appeared they had decided to go right at her. Scott, unlike Greaves, puts value on defense. He will pull anyone out if the start playing bad D, even if it is only for a couple of possessions. |
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Post by lotrader on Mar 24, 2019 19:46:44 GMT -8
Her shot wasn't dropping. Did you see your stat line? And her defense for the 14 minutes she was in the game was better than JG's defense. Coach knows best. I'm missing something?
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Post by willtalk on Mar 24, 2019 22:09:48 GMT -8
Her shot wasn't dropping. Did you see your stat line? And her defense for the 14 minutes she was in the game was better than JG's defense. Coach knows best. I'm missing something? She got all her points in the first half of the game. Other than the fast break layup pass from Mik she didn't score again in the second half. She did play good defense in the first half, but as I said they were not really going after her. Once they put the freshman post back in the the second half they began to target her and Scott pulled her out. Then when he put her back in she quickly allowed an open lane to the basket because she became focused on her man turning her back on the play and leaving an open lane for a lay up. Scott pulled her right out. Yes the coach saw the same things i did and that is why he pulled her out. Although she is listed as 6'1" she looked no taller than Kat when standing next to her. She just does not have the height to match up against taller posts. When she is scoring it's still a viable trade of but once she stops it's not. She was no match for their freshman post once she began to work it inside. Funny but it seems that a lot of players on this team seem to play inconsistently on defense. They play well for a while and then all of the sudden lose their focus. When that happens Scott pulls them out. He will do that with anyone. I think Scott is very good at noticing things in respect to his players and substitutes before things get out of hand. Defense has always been my thing and I tend to watch players to see how they play defense. I have been watching the post play more because of the focus on it this season. Even then, sometimes i miss things unless I watch replays. It is very difficult to try to watch too many things all at once. I always used to record games when I used to follow the NBA and is was amazing how on review things often turned out far different than I had originally thought. It's also all too easy to let our fandom influence what we see. |
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Post by lotrader on Mar 25, 2019 4:21:46 GMT -8
Don't forget defensive rebounding....in 14 minutes Maddie had 4 defensive rebounds. She does a nice job blocking out with her lower half. JG on the other hand struggles mightily to not only block out, but to hold on to a loose ball. I remember the play where MW let the player go right by her. It happened to a few other players during the course of the game. I think MW earned more minutes in Saturday's game. We'll see today. Always fun to dialogue with you willtalk.
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