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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 18, 2019 9:01:46 GMT -8
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Post by COBeav on Feb 18, 2019 9:17:12 GMT -8
It may be a bad business decision but I bet you've never had a friend or relative almost die due to food allergy concerns. I have, my granddaughter is absolutely deathly allergic to tree nuts and peanuts, and has been hospitalized multiple times for exposure. I know, I know -- it's your right to have peanuts at ballgames, but people seem to trivialize the seriousness of these allergies. It's tough seeing a 5 year old carrying 2 epi pens and learning how to give herself shots just so she knows how to survive.
First thing I would do is change the name from an "allergy." Doesn't sound so bad, I mean we all have allergies. But some can kill you. Kinda like turf toe doesn't sound so bad for big bad football players. I'm not trying to be argumentative at all here, I just hope people would realize that these kinds of allergies are real.
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 18, 2019 9:44:33 GMT -8
It may be a bad business decision but I bet you've never had a friend or relative almost die due to food allergy concerns. I have, my granddaughter is absolutely deathly allergic to tree nuts and peanuts, and has been hospitalized multiple times for exposure. I know, I know -- it's your right to have peanuts at ballgames, but people seem to trivialize the seriousness of these allergies. It's tough seeing a 5 year old carrying 2 epi pens and learning how to give herself shots just so she knows how to survive. First thing I would do is change the name from an "allergy." Doesn't sound so bad, I mean we all have allergies. But some can kill you. Kinda like turf toe doesn't sound so bad for big bad football players. I'm not trying to be argumentative at all here, I just hope people would realize that these kinds of allergies are real. Actually it doesnât affect me since I donât eat peanuts at games. But isnât it kind of like banning ice cream because a certain number of fans are diabetic?
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Post by irimi on Feb 18, 2019 10:16:44 GMT -8
Actually it doesnât affect me since I donât eat peanuts at games. But isnât it kind of like banning ice cream because a certain number of fans are diabetic? No, I donât think so. Ice cream is pretty well contained within their little tubs or on sticks or cones. Not much of a chance of getting some inadvertently in a different food source. I suspect that the ballpark wants to avoid any possible cross-âcontaminationâ of this sort since it doesnât take much to trigger a reaction, and as youâve read, the reaction can be deadly.
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Post by irimi on Feb 18, 2019 10:24:51 GMT -8
My bad. My med school bound son corrected me. Apparently, if youâre have a nut allergy, simply being in the environment of the nuts can cause a reaction. Ingestion is by far worse, but skin contact can also cause a reaction. And how many people throw their peanut shells on the floor?
The allergens which cause the reactions can remain in the environment for months. Insane. COBeav, hope your granddaughter stays healthy!
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Post by COBeav on Feb 18, 2019 17:44:32 GMT -8
My bad. My med school bound son corrected me. Apparently, if youâre have a nut allergy, simply being in the environment of the nuts can cause a reaction. Ingestion is by far worse, but skin contact can also cause a reaction. And how many people throw their peanut shells on the floor? The allergens which cause the reactions can remain in the environment for months. Insane. COBeav, hope your granddaughter stays healthy! Thanks Irimi. I KNOW it's a touchy subject with people because so many people want to shout out that it's their right to eat peanuts (etc) wherever they want. I get it. But this is a problem that is growing, for some weird reason, in our culture today. As I said, if they changed the name to something more ominous it might be treated differently. The last time my granddaughter was in real jeopardy was eating at a restaurant that they've frequented before .... but they got cross contamination nonetheless. Epi-pen injection in the bathroom and a trip to the hospital, and this is a restaurant they trusted. Restaurants, school cafeterias (and peanut butter sandwiches), airplanes, ball games .. the areas of problem for someone like this are myriad. Professional ballparks have actually had "peanut free days" and they've gone to games on those days because it's a normal thing for kids to do. Sorry for the long winded reply, but this is a tough one for her, and lots of people. While I'm on my soapbox, if anyone wants more info, Food Allergy Research & Education's (FARE) website will give you lots of info. www.foodallergy.org/
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 18, 2019 17:48:53 GMT -8
Are unvaccinated people still allowed to come to the ball park possibly carrying measles? Good thing that doesnât spread as easily as a food allergy. Wait, ...
*Note: I recognize the danger of food allergies to individuals.
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Post by hawksea on Feb 18, 2019 19:17:57 GMT -8
Actually it doesnât affect me since I donât eat peanuts at games. But isnât it kind of like banning ice cream because a certain number of fans are diabetic? As someone who has a severe nut allergy, even the particles in the air can give me migraines and bad reactions. Yes eating them is worse and makes my throat close up, but having the particles in the air can still be bad. It's completely different than something like ice cream and diabetics. Most people don't understand peanut allergies, but they are extremely severe and it's not just from eating them like other food allergies (lactose, gluten, shellfish, etc).
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 18, 2019 19:21:06 GMT -8
As someone who has a severe nut allergy, even the particles in the air can give me migraines and bad reactions. Yes eating them is worse and makes my throat close up, but having the particles in the air can still be bad. It's completely different than something like ice cream and diabetics. Most people don't understand peanut allergies, but they are extremely severe and it's not just from eating them like other food allergies (lactose, gluten, shellfish, etc). Sounds like OSU should consider a ban for Goss, Reser and Gill.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Feb 18, 2019 19:24:00 GMT -8
As someone who has a severe nut allergy, even the particles in the air can give me migraines and bad reactions. Yes eating them is worse and makes my throat close up, but having the particles in the air can still be bad. It's completely different than something like ice cream and diabetics. Most people don't understand peanut allergies, but they are extremely severe and it's not just from eating them like other food allergies (lactose, gluten, shellfish, etc). would a particle mask help? I don't know much about nut allergies.
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Post by osufan2k on Feb 19, 2019 9:24:36 GMT -8
I think you'll start seeing this happen more often. My child has a severe tree nut allergy. He can have peanuts, but that's it. We found out the hard way after he ate a couple cashews one day and had a very bad reaction which required a visit to the ER. We now carry epipens everywhere we go. Doctor told us his allergy is serious enough that just touching something that has been contaminated by a tree nut can cause a severe reaction.
The reaction is fast, so someone with a nut allergy can be in serious trouble quickly if they don't have an epipen with them.
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Post by hawksea on Feb 19, 2019 12:16:10 GMT -8
As someone who has a severe nut allergy, even the particles in the air can give me migraines and bad reactions. Yes eating them is worse and makes my throat close up, but having the particles in the air can still be bad. It's completely different than something like ice cream and diabetics. Most people don't understand peanut allergies, but they are extremely severe and it's not just from eating them like other food allergies (lactose, gluten, shellfish, etc). would a particle mask help? I don't know much about nut allergies. Not sure. I've never tried wearing one. I've always just sucked it up at baseball games and tried to sit away from people eating nuts because watching baseball is more important than my health.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 19, 2019 13:22:41 GMT -8
Someone better re-write "Take me out to the ballgame" quickly.
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Post by beavadelic on Feb 19, 2019 13:25:57 GMT -8
It may be a bad business decision but I bet you've never had a friend or relative almost die due to food allergy concerns. I have, my granddaughter is absolutely deathly allergic to tree nuts and peanuts, and has been hospitalized multiple times for exposure. I know, I know -- it's your right to have peanuts at ballgames, but people seem to trivialize the seriousness of these allergies. It's tough seeing a 5 year old carrying 2 epi pens and learning how to give herself shots just so she knows how to survive. First thing I would do is change the name from an "allergy." Doesn't sound so bad, I mean we all have allergies. But some can kill you. Kinda like turf toe doesn't sound so bad for big bad football players. I'm not trying to be argumentative at all here, I just hope people would realize that these kinds of allergies are real. I appreciate you expressing what has become a real issue in our culture. We discovered a couple of years ago already that my 2 1/2 year old grandson is DEATHLY allergic to peanuts. He had hives and other weird reactions, and not knowing what had caused them they did a multi-allergy testing workup. The test for peanuts blew off the charts. The doctor classified his issue as life-threatening, not just eating peanuts or peanut butter, but even having contact on his skin via kisses from family - anything that could get to his bloodstream could kill him within 30 minutes. So, all of us in the family have scrapped anything containing peanuts (hazelnuts in his case as well). The epi pen absolutely has got to be close on hand wherever he goes. Itâs tough, his dad played for the Beavs and is a high school coach, and my grandson lives at the ball park. He loves it, and his motor doesnât quit, so it takes a whole village to keep him away from the peanut shells on the ground under the bleachers, etc. As a school counselor, Iâve watched our schools get tighter and tighter on restrictions as this very real health risk has become more prevalent. Iâm not sure what is causing the increase in cases of severe allergies in our kids. I have to think that as we continue introduce more and more unnatural stuff into our environment and the processing of food that it canât be helping. Whatever the cause, this is a problem that is no joke. Responding to it appropriately as a society may be inconvenient and possibly even effect some peopleâs bottom line, but it must be taken seriously.
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Post by ochobeavo on Feb 19, 2019 13:53:12 GMT -8
I think you'll start seeing this happen more often. My child has a severe tree nut allergy. He can have peanuts, but that's it. We found out the hard way after he ate a couple cashews one day and had a very bad reaction which required a visit to the ER. We now carry epipens everywhere we go. Doctor told us his allergy is serious enough that just touching something that has been contaminated by a tree nut can cause a severe reaction. The reaction is fast, so someone with a nut allergy can be in serious trouble quickly if they don't have an epipen with them. My oldest had serious tree nut allergies when he was younger. Instant reactions, vomiting, epi-pens, the whole deal. The cool thing is that he gets re-tested annually and about 2 years ago we found out that he's no longer allergic to almonds, hazel nuts and cashews. Still allergic to pistachios and walnuts IIRC. Almonds was a big one since almonds/almond powder in so many things.. So there's hope for you!
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