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Post by mbabeav on Nov 25, 2018 15:03:59 GMT -8
Our first and only loss is to number one and we played some other good teams and took them down. Once again I say it, by tournament time this team is going to be top five and looking for a final four run.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 25, 2018 16:13:42 GMT -8
Our first and only loss is to number one and we played some other good teams and took them down. Once again I say it, by tournament time this team is going to be top five and looking for a final four run. So much would have to happen for that to be even remotely true. I love SR and this team, but just too young and inexperienced upfront. Too many very good teams that are much more complete. In tourney play upsets can provide an "easier" path, but this team does not have the look or feel of a top 5 or Final 4 team. Here's to wishful thinking, but I'm hoping we get to host a round (or two) and go from there. |
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Post by ricke71 on Nov 25, 2018 16:52:31 GMT -8
What I’ve learned in this years ‘pre-season’ thus far: 2018-19 WBB might live and die by the “3”. Make tournament and after that  ?? 2019-20 season will be epic, led by M. Pivec and bolstered by Freshman Class, and veterans like Corosdale and Goodman and Slocum. Pivec has the potential to be 2019/20 PAC 12 POY (well....except for the one in Eugene). |
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Post by lotrader on Nov 25, 2018 17:50:47 GMT -8
Pivec has a shot at PAC-12 POY this year.
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Post by osu82 on Nov 25, 2018 20:50:16 GMT -8
Our first and only loss is to number one and we played some other good teams and took them down. Once again I say it, by tournament time this team is going to be top five and looking for a final four run. So much would have to happen for that to be even remotely true. I love SR and this team, but just too young and inexperienced upfront. Too many very good teams that are much more complete. In tourney play upsets can provide an "easier" path, but this team does not have the look or feel of a top 5 or Final 4 team. Here's to wishful thinking, but I'm hoping we get to host a round (or two) and go from there. That's kind of how I see it too, at this point. This team isn't strong enough in the interior/post and, unfortunately, Aquino doesn't seem likely to play this season to shore it up. This is a tourney team, for sure, and maybe even a Sweet 16 team with the right match ups. |
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Post by beaveragain on Nov 25, 2018 22:19:39 GMT -8
The Beav's just lost to one of the top interior's in women's college basketball and led for 90% of the game. And the interior is not what won the game for Notre Dame.
We lost partly because-
Destiny got one A
Katie got 5 pts
Taya got into foul trouble too early
Jo gassed out
Trish isn't ready
Rebounding fell apart at times
Defense was intermittent
All of these things are fixable by the end of the season. This team is going to kick butt!
And no, Mik has no chance at being Pac-12 POY. Not while U of O is force feeding Ion 10, 10, 12 absurd "triple doubles".
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Post by Werebeaver on Nov 25, 2018 23:00:37 GMT -8
The Beav's just lost to one of the top interior's in women's college basketball and led for 90% of the game. And the interior is not what won the game for Notre Dame. We lost partly because- Destiny got one A Katie got 5 pts Taya got into foul trouble too early Jo gassed out Trish isn't ready Rebounding fell apart at times Defense was intermittent All of these things are fixable by the end of the season. This team is going to kick butt! And no, Mik has no chance at being Pac-12 POY. Not while U of O is force feeding Ion 10, 10, 12 absurd "triple doubles". One reason is conspicuously missing from your list Notre Dame Notre Dame is an outstanding team who, when push came to shove, stopped us from doing what we needed to do to get the W. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 25, 2018 23:41:31 GMT -8
The Beav's just lost to one of the top interior's in women's college basketball and led for 90% of the game. And the interior is not what won the game for Notre Dame. We lost partly because- Destiny got one A Katie got 5 pts Taya got into foul trouble too early Jo gassed out Trish isn't ready Rebounding fell apart at times Defense was intermittent All of these things are fixable by the end of the season. This team is going to kick butt! And no, Mik has no chance at being Pac-12 POY. Not while U of O is force feeding Ion 10, 10, 12 absurd "triple doubles". One reason is conspicuously missing from your list Notre Dame Notre Dame is an outstanding team who, when push came to shove, stopped us from doing what we needed to do to get the W. And their "interior" game was +20. Pretty sure that was the game's difference. |
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Post by beaveragain on Nov 26, 2018 8:08:58 GMT -8
"One reason is conspicuously missing from your list Notre Dame" Well yes, but there's stuff the Beav's can do about what's on my list and not anything they can do about them. Well, hire assassins, but in my book that's just wrong!
"And their "interior" game was +20. Pretty sure that was the game's difference." That was Young and ND's Assassin shooting a bunch of midrange stuff, and Marie couldn't do anything about that last year either. Now someone with exceptional reach and quickness such as AA...... And KtMc did mess up two of those shots with her hustle defense. Need to watch the game again to see how she really did against them.
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Post by lotrader on Nov 26, 2018 8:46:09 GMT -8
I'll repeat myself, Pivec has a legitimate shot at PAC-12 POY. OSU has 2 games with UO this year, and that will be pivotal in POY voting. It also depends on how each team finishes in the PAC-12 standings, PAC-12 Tourney, and, how Sabrina fares in upcoming MSU vs Oregon game. Way to early to say Sabrina has PAC-12 POY award locked up.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 26, 2018 11:03:29 GMT -8
"One reason is conspicuously missing from your list Notre Dame" Well yes, but there's stuff the Beav's can do about what's on my list and not anything they can do about them. Well, hire assassins, but in my book that's just wrong! "And their "interior" game was +20. Pretty sure that was the game's difference." That was Young and ND's Assassin shooting a bunch of midrange stuff, and Marie couldn't do anything about that last year either. Now someone with exceptional reach and quickness such as AA...... And KtMc did mess up two of those shots with her hustle defense. Need to watch the game again to see how she really did against them. Watched... just fine... paint/interior is inside... there was no 20 point advantage in the midrange game. ND was better... period. The 2nd half of games is where the true metal lies. If a team hung close/was ahead of OSU at half and then OSU drilled them by 20 in the 2nd half, no fan on this board would say they played with us. ND's experience and talent took the game over. In the 2nd half it was a slow death as they took over every aspect of the game. And if this game was back east some Beaver fans would be bemoaning the 3 games in 3 days in a 3 hour time difference. ND traveled, played relatively short handed and basically dominated the 2nd half in a very methodical fashion. And... it wasn't unexpected. It showed where OSU must improve to play at that next level and host some tourney games. |
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Post by wbosh15 on Nov 26, 2018 11:41:10 GMT -8
Yes, they do need to improve the rebounding and interior defense, that's the biggest issue I see. But let's not pretend that Notre Dame is some run of the mill or just a sweet 16 team. That is the defending national champions. And you are tied with them with 3 minutes to go, until they hit a contested 28 foot 3. We did not do a good job down the stretch of executing, but let's not pretend we are light years away. There are issues, but I think they are fixable.
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Post by 411500 on Nov 26, 2018 12:18:24 GMT -8
"There are issues, but I think they are fixable."
In a nutshell, this pretty much speaks to the discussion on this board.
Everyone pretty much agrees that the Beavs are weak in their interior defense, and in their low post offence. We also lack basketball muscle in the paint.
As near as I can tell most of us agree on this.
Whether these deficits are fixable is the real question.🏀
Some say yes. Some say no. Some believe Rueck has a history of "fixing" deficits. Others say it would take a miracle worker to fix these deficits.
When all is said and done we're left with this basic truism: You cannot have a powerful basketball team without a powerful post presence of some kind of another.
Right now we don't have one. And if we ever get one it will be Thropay or Grymek who provides it.
In my view, as we approach Dec. 1, neither of them are close to providing what we need.
But hope rings eternal in Beaver Nation, so here's hopin'.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 26, 2018 12:33:26 GMT -8
"There are issues, but I think they are fixable." In a nutshell, this pretty much speaks to the discussion on this board. Everyone pretty much agrees that the Beavs are weak in their interior defense, and in their low post offence. We also lack basketball muscle in the paint. As near as I can tell most of us agree on this. Whether these deficits are fixable is the real question.🏀 Some say yes. Some say no. Some believe Rueck has a history of "fixing" deficits. Others say it would take a miracle worker to fix these deficits. When all is said and done we're left with this basic truism: You cannot have a powerful basketball team without a powerful post presence of some kind of another. Right now we don't have one. And if we ever get one it will be Thropay or Grymek who provides it. In my view, as we approach Dec. 1, neither of them are close to providing what we need. But hope rings eternal in Beaver Nation, so here's hopin'. GO BEAVS !! Add that... OSU WBB has spoiled us. Much easier to see things as "fixable"/trust this staff to make adjustments with all the successes, especially where this program was when SR took over. I see this as a potentially "down year"... with 22-26 Ws when all is said and done! Have to love that type of program, when a down year is top 3 type league finish and NCAA tourney berth/hosting games. Conversely, you can not make any of the same claims with MBB (some will still argue the state of the program when WT took over). Hence, there is a more "wait and see" attitude and much easier to see "negatives" as proof of no significant improvements. It boils down to actual performances vs potential. As fans you tend to "build a resume" for your teams. When the resume is lacking sustained success it is much tougher to see the job getting done. Same will apply with JS and football. The resume is basically blank, and it'll take some consistent success to fill it to where fans walk into Reser or an away game believing OSU is winning that game. WBB... there isn't a game, ND included, that I don't believe OSU was going to win or be in the game til the very final horn. |
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Post by wbosh15 on Nov 26, 2018 12:33:51 GMT -8
"There are issues, but I think they are fixable." In a nutshell, this pretty much speaks to the discussion on this board. Everyone pretty much agrees that the Beavs are weak in their interior defense, and in their low post offence. We also lack basketball muscle in the paint. As near as I can tell most of us agree on this. Whether these deficits are fixable is the real question.🏀 Some say yes. Some say no. Some believe Rueck has a history of "fixing" deficits. Others say it would take a miracle worker to fix these deficits. When all is said and done we're left with this basic truism: You cannot have a powerful basketball team without a powerful post presence of some kind of another. Right now we don't have one. And if we ever get one it will be Thropay or Grymek who provides it. In my view, as we approach Dec. 1, neither of them are close to providing what we need. But hope rings eternal in Beaver Nation, so here's hopin'. GO BEAVS !! Part of me wonders how much of our frustration with our center position right now, is the fact it's been more than half a decade since we didn't have an all-american at center? Is our center position really that bad, or are we just hypercritical because they aren't Marie or Ruth. (Honestly I'm not sure) I don't think this team needs a powerful offensive post presence to win. The center position just needs to make an occasional layup, stay in defense position, and rebound. I think the coaching staff will tweak and play with zones to see what we can get away with. The thing I would most like to see, is a line-up with Taya at the 5 and Katie at the 4. I think it's going to be an exciting year. |
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