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Post by beaverwbb fan on Oct 28, 2018 10:08:13 GMT -8
Quite honestly I never liked our chances with Brink. Pretty sure it was down to UO or Stanford, but everyone knew it was Stanford mostly for a while now I think. Better there than tsdtr
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Post by newduke2 on Oct 28, 2018 10:48:49 GMT -8
yes, I really did not have high hopes she would choose OSU. I don't blame her for wanting a Stanford degree and to play for a great coach and program (not that OSU isn't also).
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Oct 28, 2018 10:56:05 GMT -8
I agree that Stanford is the one other Pac-12 school I never get upset when a recruit chooses. Great coach, great program, great history, great academics, great campus, great location. They have a lot going for them which is why the understandably recruit really well across the country. They and UConn have very geographically diverse rosters. With Kansas and Texas... we’re on the way. Hope we can keep some PNW talent home in 2020 especially with Van Lith and possibly Daniels if we are still after her. Still want to keep an elite Oregonian home soon!
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Post by 411500 on Oct 28, 2018 11:37:10 GMT -8
I agree that Stanford is the one other Pac-12 school I never get upset when a recruit chooses. Great coach, great program, great history, great academics, great campus, great location.... Stanford has just about everything going for them as a program..Hard to find someone who truly disagrees with that. Everyone here at Benny's house is high on the talent the Beavs are bringing in (rightfully so). But the Cardinal is doing the same - maybe even moreso...Brink is merely the current example of their annual talent haul. Lexie Hull (who is a Cardinal frosh this year) was the best girl h.s. player I have ever seen. Ever. She is a great team player. I'm not here to shout the praises of Stanford - but it is helpful to remember how totally difficult it is to win the Pac Conference Championship when you have to lace up against teams like Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, ASU, USC & Cal every weekend... |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Oct 28, 2018 12:10:42 GMT -8
I agree that Stanford is the one other Pac-12 school I never get upset when a recruit chooses. Great coach, great program, great history, great academics, great campus, great location.... Stanford has just about everything going for them as a program..Hard to find someone who truly disagrees with that. Everyone here at Benny's house is high on the talent the Beavs are bringing in (rightfully so). But the Cardinal is doing the same - maybe even moreso...Brink is merely the current example of their annual talent haul. Lexie Hull (who is a Cardinal frosh this year) was the best girl h.s. player I have ever seen. Ever. She is a great team player. I'm not here to shout the praises of Stanford - but it is helpful to remember how totally difficult it is to win the Pac Conference Championship when you have to lace up against teams like Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, ASU, USC & Cal every weekend... Good points. They are bringing in a lot of talent but that is, and has been, the norm for them for many many years. We are the younger sibling that is just now hitting a growth spurt that could and should put us even with and maybe even above them. They were given a gift last year when their game with wsu was cancelled, they finished ahead of us by that game. Who knows what would have happened if they had played. I think that we and the schmucks are at the same level that they are. ucla, asu, and even cal are close behind. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Oct 28, 2018 12:35:15 GMT -8
Stanford and UCLA are the only teams that I would say out recruit us on a regular basis and, well, thats because it’s Stanford and UCLA. Stanford for reasons mentioned above and UCLA for academics, location, and just the hype of UCLA. While we have beat them in a fair amount of recruiting battles, they recruit all over the nation.
I’d say Stanford has the #1 class with Prechtel, Belibi, and Jump.
UCLA with #2 Owens, Osborne, a TX girl, and Canadian wing.
And we’re #3 with Brown and Jones
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Post by texasbeaver on Oct 28, 2018 12:41:00 GMT -8
I was at a volleyball tourny about a year ago that she happened to be playing in. Everyone was saying it was Stanford at that time.
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Post by bvrbooster on Oct 28, 2018 13:51:04 GMT -8
Stanford would seem to be the type of school where recruits don't necessarily look too closely to see who's already on the roster playing their position. I don't think we're quite there yet.
To illustrate that, this year's Stanford team will include 5 star recruits at point guard in every class - Marta Sniezak (#38 overall) is a senior, Anna Wilson (# 42) is a junior, Kiana Williams (#8) is a sophomore, and Jenna Brown(#18) a freshman. This has not deterred Hannah Jump (#50) from committing for next year. Logic would dictate that Jump will be consigned to some very serious pine time for at least 2 years, but off she goes anyway.
Like others among you, I certainly understand that. If my daughter got a free ride to Stanford, I'd buy her a new car to celebrate.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Oct 28, 2018 13:58:38 GMT -8
I’m not sure we ever will get to that point. They do that at Stanford because they want the Stanford degree. Sure you can get a great education at OSU, but it doesn’t compare to Stanford’s. Jenna Brown is one example. Originally committed to Notre Dame but then decomitted. Other finalists were Vanderbilt, Virginia, and Georgia Tech. Clearly she is looking for a combination of a great school + a respectable program. Also I think a lot of them also are combo guards, but I get the point.
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Post by bvrbooster on Oct 30, 2018 10:45:52 GMT -8
I mentioned previously that, with Hannah Jump committing for 2019, Stanford would have recruited a 5 star point guard for 5 consecutive years. Make that 6. Jana Van Gytenbeek, ESPN #37, has committed for 2020. There are, however, 13 point guards rated above her, including 4 of the top 6 overall. Presumably, we won't have to compete against Stanford for one of them.
Incidentally, Tara Vanderveer is 65 years old. No idea when she plans to retire,but both Stanford and Connecticut will have to deal with that in the not too distant future.
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 30, 2018 11:05:20 GMT -8
I agree that Stanford is the one other Pac-12 school I never get upset when a recruit chooses. Great coach, great program, great history, great academics, great campus, great location.... Stanford has just about everything going for them as a program..Hard to find someone who truly disagrees with that. Everyone here at Benny's house is high on the talent the Beavs are bringing in (rightfully so). But the Cardinal is doing the same - maybe even moreso...Brink is merely the current example of their annual talent haul. Lexie Hull (who is a Cardinal frosh this year) was the best girl h.s. player I have ever seen. Ever. She is a great team player. I'm not here to shout the praises of Stanford - but it is helpful to remember how totally difficult it is to win the Pac Conference Championship when you have to lace up against teams like Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, ASU, USC & Cal every weekend... Except for attendance. They don’t draw as well as a program with their history of success should. |
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 30, 2018 11:28:49 GMT -8
Stanford doesn't draw for any sport in proportion to their success.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Oct 30, 2018 11:48:46 GMT -8
I know that Hannah Jump is listed as a PG on Hoopgurlz, but even if you read her descriptions they say “off-guard”. Just take a look back at Mik’s Hoopgurlz profile she is listed as a PG and described as a “lead-guard” she is definitely a combo-guard rather than lead-guard. Slocum, while described as a “combo-guard” has proven to be a lead guard with scoring abilities, especially from deep.
I am pretty sure we recruited Jump. I think she is a really good shooter. Kiana Williams, who we were the runner up for, would have been playing a lot of guard if Marta Sniezek wasn’t injured. No doubt Tara recruits top PGs with high frequency.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Oct 30, 2018 11:57:30 GMT -8
Easier to move a point guard to a shooting guard than the other way around.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Oct 30, 2018 12:48:04 GMT -8
I know that Hannah Jump is listed as a PG on Hoopgurlz, but even if you read her descriptions they say “off-guard”. Just take a look back at Mik’s Hoopgurlz profile she is listed as a PG and described as a “lead-guard” she is definitely a combo-guard rather than lead-guard. Slocum, while described as a “combo-guard” has proven to be a lead guard with scoring abilities, especially from deep. I am pretty sure we recruited Jump. I think she is a really good shooter. Kiana Williams, who we were the runner up for, would have been playing a lot of guard if Marta Sniezek wasn’t injured. No doubt Tara recruits top PGs with high frequency. I took another look at Mik's ESPNW profile after seeing beaverwbbfan's post above. You can see the multiple comments of "combo-guard" and "floor leader" in the evaluation comments in the first website link below. I did not read "lead guard" in any of the four written evaluations listed about her on that site. I'm sure that there may have been confusion about her customary position from observers who didn't see her play frequently because the ball was in her hands so often due to her ability to rebound on both ends of the floor. For those that saw Pivec play AAU basketball or have seen her AAU highlight videos, you often would see a 5'10" athlete getting rebounds and going coast-to-coast or assisting her teammates after dribbling most of the length of the court. She played an off guard or wing during her AAU games. If you have seen her high school basketball videos, you will see her jumping center and playing inside as a post in addition to simply rebounding and going coast-to-coast on fast breaks. In any event, Pivec is a combo guard whose size and strength is better suited to play the 2 (off guard), assuming that she can shoot well enough from beyond the arc to keep defenses honest. Slocum's ballhandling skills and 5'7" height have "point guard" written all over them. How well Destiny is suited to playing off the ball on occasion as a "combo guard" remains to be seen. ESPNW's Dan Olson does, as beaverwbbfan writes above in his post, refer to Slocum as a "combo guard" in at least two of his written evaluations on that site (see second link below for Slocum's evaluation during her high school years). I haven't seen Slocum play at any level without the ball consistently being in her hands at the point guard position. On the Beavs, Slocum may not prove to be among the top three or four three-point shooters on the team during '18-'19. www.espn.com/high-school/girls-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/208681/mikayla-pivecwww.espn.com/high-school/girls-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/191032 |
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