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Post by osubeaver2018 on Aug 22, 2018 22:06:35 GMT -8
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Post by bennyskid on Aug 23, 2018 6:14:45 GMT -8
Great . . . so now he'll just be MORE disappointing to certain posters on this board no matter what he or the team achieves.
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 23, 2018 6:54:23 GMT -8
Great . . . so now he'll just be MORE disappointing to certain posters on this board no matter what he or the team achieves. Yes... because "disappointing" or TT's play a disappointment has ever been part of the discussion! But, then again that's exactly the the reading and comprehension skills that certain posters exhibit. TT is a quality college player. I challenge you and you cryptic posts to find where anyone states he's been a disappointment. In fact most here would prob say TT is a better all around player than expected. And, to assist your tutorial in previous threads the discussions centered on NBA caliber/drafting and top players at OSU. PS- Diehard's a real "quality" site. I wouldn't hang my hat on their opinion pieces of generic info. I believe shut down two months ago by Cox Media. But, great hype piece about players he's prob never seem play. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 8:02:52 GMT -8
Great . . . so now he'll just be MORE disappointing to certain posters on this board no matter what he or the team achieves. Yes... because "disappointing" or TT's play a disappointment has ever been part of the discussion! But, then again that's exactly the the reading and comprehension skills that certain posters exhibit. TT is a quality college player. I challenge you and you cryptic posts to find where anyone states he's been a disappointment. In fact most here would prob say TT is a better all around player than expected. And, to assist your tutorial in previous threads the discussions centered on NBA caliber/drafting and top players at OSU. PS- Diehard's a real "quality" site. I wouldn't hang my hat on their opinion pieces of generic info. I believe shut down two months ago by Cox Media. But, great hype piece about players he's prob never seem play. You, mr. Baseball011 have been a TT curmudgeon, you cannot have any of this "Top 25" cake, sorry. I do agree with you that article is a hype piece rather than some kind of logic based stacking order. I see Payton Pritchard on that list. He might come into his own but so far his stats don't get him top 100 billing. Personally I think TT is a solid Top 5 or 6 guy, he still needs to fill in his game to go from being an Oregon State great to a Pac 12 great: -needs a right hand. really surprised Wayne let him work around this problem for so long. It's glaring. Defenders camp out on his left side and force him right, he usually fakes right with a jab step then pulls up, defender in his face. Teams with a quick defender don't have to double team him. If Tres can make his right side his "go to side" it will open up the spin to the left and Hello Gordon Hayward. -needs a better handle. Seems sloppy with the ball too often for a "great" player. Yeah on a team that generally doesn't handle the ball that well this gets overlooked but again, his fundamentals are strangely unlike most coach's sons. -needs Better off the ball defense, doesnt have plus quickness but a great player wins on defense with active hands in the lane, anticipation to close out shooters, and never getting "stuck" behind a screen. He's not horrible at these things but why can't he be better? |
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Post by beaverstever on Aug 23, 2018 11:50:48 GMT -8
I think he's left-hand dominance isn't as bad as it seems. It's more visually obvious when lefties go to their dominant hand, because it's much less commonly seen. Most players are far more comfortable going to their stronger hand. That said, it is a weakness for sure.
His value though is undeniable. The difference in OSU teams when he's been on the floor vs. injured have been huge. Some of that is just lack of depth in general, but he's been very consistent at getting his.
I think there's also a tendency to see him as less than he is due to him being fairly heavy-footed. I see that as a pretty big gap between him and a Gordon Hayward at the next level, but it's not really a big problem until he goes against truly elite college-level defenders.
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Post by jdogge on Aug 23, 2018 14:32:02 GMT -8
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Post by bennyskid on Aug 23, 2018 14:38:50 GMT -8
But the coaches don't have the courage to bench him . . .
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Post by ee1990 on Aug 23, 2018 20:40:25 GMT -8
Bol Bol is crazy overrated.
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Post by beaverstever on Aug 24, 2018 10:57:34 GMT -8
Bol Bol is crazy overrated.  |
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Post by Judge Smails on Aug 24, 2018 11:41:14 GMT -8
Bol Bol is crazy overrated. What? you couldn't find a Manute highlight. |
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Post by bill82 on Aug 24, 2018 14:26:14 GMT -8
Can't go to his right, can't hit a three, plays out of control at times. Not sure how you become the best player in the Pac-12 with those attributes. Best player on OSU's team I agree. But not best in conference. He will make all-conference because he will get great stats playing on a .500 team with not many scoring options.
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Post by beaverintheberg on Aug 24, 2018 14:27:08 GMT -8
Bol Bol may be overrated. Having stood next to him he reminded me of a pixie stick..... very long and skinny.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Aug 24, 2018 15:03:57 GMT -8
Can't go to his right, can't hit a three, plays out of control at times. Not sure how you become the best player in the Pac-12 with those attributes. Best player on OSU's team I agree. But not best in conference. He will make all-conference because he will get great stats playing on a .500 team with not many scoring options. OSU was four 2-5 point losses from having the 3rd best league record in the Pac 12. It's not like OSU was a horrible team and a bad player had GREAT stats by default. The top player in the nation, who had the best NBA Efficiency stat rating in the Pac 12 was the kid from Arizona who went number one in the NBA draft. The kid with the next highest NBA Efficiency stat rating in the Pac 12.... Tres Tinkle. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Aug 24, 2018 20:28:26 GMT -8
Can't go to his right, can't hit a three, plays out of control at times. Not sure how you become the best player in the Pac-12 with those attributes. Best player on OSU's team I agree. But not best in conference. He will make all-conference because he will get great stats playing on a .500 team with not many scoring options. OSU was four 2-5 point losses from having the 3rd best league record in the Pac 12. It's not like OSU was a horrible team and a bad player had GREAT stats by default. The top player in the nation, who had the best NBA Efficiency stat rating in the Pac 12 was the kid from Arizona who went number one in the NBA draft. The kid with the next highest NBA Efficiency stat rating in the Pac 12.... Tres Tinkle. We did not have the 3rd best record. Obviously the 2nd best NBA efficiency rating was not good enough to even sniff draft possibilities. TT stats can say what ever you wish, but he was not the 2nd best player behind Aydon. And, he will not be in the top 5 of Pac12 players if you want to throw out "NBA" draft comments. Most likely not drafted period, stats or not. |
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Post by bennyskid on Aug 24, 2018 20:53:28 GMT -8
What does draft status have to do with anything? The draft is about raw physical potential, not being the best player. It is perfectly possible that TT is the best player in the Pac-12 and still not be drafted.
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