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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 4:25:00 GMT -8
Favorite sport other than basketball..... Aussie rules football. It figures, her dad was a very good player and apparently she used to play it as well. I doubt she is going to be pushed around. She should fit in well. The biggest difference between the Beavers from a few years ago to the current team is mental. It really started with Kat and Mik, in their first couple games both had a defender try to grab the ball from them only to end up on the court after a text book hip toss. Aleah and Taya, while not quite as physical, showed a lot of mental toughness. Jazz appears ready to continue this trend. . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 20:50:05 GMT -8
Some pics on SM of Jazz, looks like the s&c is working  |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Aug 15, 2018 22:50:29 GMT -8
She has some serious springs.
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Post by lotrader on Aug 16, 2018 5:23:48 GMT -8
Looking forward to seeing Jasmine play. Perhaps it will be Jasmine or KTMac who lead the Beavers in Blocks this year?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 5:59:01 GMT -8
Looking forward to seeing Jasmine play. Perhaps it will be Jasmine or KTMac who lead the Beavers in Blocks this year? Nope (at least from thickhead's perspective). Better candidate |
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Post by lotrader on Aug 16, 2018 6:04:09 GMT -8
thickhead: Are you on campus? If so, how about a practice report. I see the photo attached of AA at the BB Practice Facilities.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 6:25:09 GMT -8
thickhead: Are you on campus? If so, how about a practice report. I see the photo attached of AA at the BB Practice Facilities. No, I'm about as far away from campus as you can get, so I'm as anxious as you to get some kind of practice report. The coaches can spend only a very limited time with the players right now, so I'm guessing we won't be getting much in terms of practice reports until October when practice starts in earnest. That's Patricia Morris, not Andrea in that photo I attached. I found it on Twitter: WBB Juniors Twitter Site and Beaver WBB SiteJazz and AleahOff topic, but the photo is of some interest here.... "Why aren't people watching women's basketball?" |
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Post by 411500 on Aug 16, 2018 7:45:15 GMT -8
beaverfan32 - -I can't figure out where the photos came from....(Where they were originally posted. Who shot them?)
At any rate, the pic of Jazz grabbing the rim is very impressive. Very.
The Beavs have a lot of good athletes on the roster but she looks like she is a cut above..
I don't remember Rueck having any player fans would call a "leaper." But Jazz sure looks the part...
I know it's early. I know it takes more than athleticism to be great basketball player. But I gotta tell ya, I'm getting excited about this kid....
It's only mid-August !!! Tick, tick, tick.....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 7:59:01 GMT -8
beaverfan32 - -I can't figure out where the photos came from....(Where they were originally posted. Who shot them?) At any rate, the pic of Jazz grabbing the rim is very impressive. Very. The Beavs have a lot of good athletes on the roster but she looks like she is a cut above.. I don't remember Rueck having any player fans would call a "leaper." But Jazz sure looks the part... I know it's early. I know it takes more than athleticism to be great basketball player. But I gotta tell ya, I'm getting excited about this kid.... It's only mid-August !!! Tick, tick, tick..... GO BEAVS !! I keep thinking that Jasmine can get on the floor as a small forward. Imagine her fronting a bigger player and some guard thinks they can just throw it right over Jasmine's head. They could be wrong. Against Louisville, I remember at least one play where we made the same mistake by underestimating the athleticism of their players. Jasmine could turn out to be a better rebounder than Pivec. She's got better size and better vertical, to go along with her outstanding experience, smarts, and focus. There is good reason to believe she could be a starter at some point as a freshman, displacing KtMac. In her videos she demonstrates great leadership, passing, defense, and an ability to attack the basket aggressively. She would beat out KtMac in every category except shooting. (Don't laugh, and I know I'm inciting violence from KtMac's devotees here, but that's my opinion.) |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Aug 16, 2018 8:38:24 GMT -8
I keep thinking that Jasmine can get on the floor as a small forward. Imagine her fronting a bigger player and some guard thinks they can just throw it right over Jasmine's head. They could be wrong. Against Louisville, I remember at least one play where we made the same mistake by underestimating the athleticism of their players. Jasmine could turn out to be a better rebounder than Pivec. She's got better size and better vertical, to go along with her outstanding experience, smarts, and focus. There is good reason to believe she could be a starter at some point as a freshman, displacing KtMac. In her videos she demonstrates great leadership, passing, defense, and an ability to attack the basket aggressively. She would beat out KtMac in every category except shooting. (Don't laugh, and I know I'm inciting violence from KtMac's devotees here, but that's my opinion.) If Thickhead is correct with his myriad of predictions (and when is he ever wrong?) and Jazz turns out to be a better rebounder than the PAC-12's best rebounding guard in Pivec (7.1 per game on the glass last season) and also displaces Katie McWilliams in the starting line-up (that won't happen unless Katie is injured), then please make room for Jazz right now on the All-PAC-12 15-member first team. Once again, I caution OSU fans from anointing Jazz as the best thing ever and allow her to work her way into the rotation and contribute where her strengths will allow during the non-conference games. If Jazz turns out to be as game-ready as Corosdale and Pivec have been during the past two seasons and can solidify her spot in the starting lineup prior to the start of PAC-12 Conference season, then I encourage Thickhead to come back on this thread and crow a bit about that accomplishment even more than usual. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 8:47:03 GMT -8
I keep thinking that Jasmine can get on the floor as a small forward. Imagine her fronting a bigger player and some guard thinks they can just throw it right over Jasmine's head. They could be wrong. Against Louisville, I remember at least one play where we made the same mistake by underestimating the athleticism of their players. Jasmine could turn out to be a better rebounder than Pivec. She's got better size and better vertical, to go along with her outstanding experience, smarts, and focus. There is good reason to believe she could be a starter at some point as a freshman, displacing KtMac. In her videos she demonstrates great leadership, passing, defense, and an ability to attack the basket aggressively. She would beat out KtMac in every category except shooting. (Don't laugh, and I know I'm inciting violence from KtMac's devotees here, but that's my opinion.) If Thickhead is correct with his myriad of predictions (and when is he ever wrong?) and Jazz turns out to be a better rebounder than the PAC-12's best rebounding guard in Pivec (7.1 per game on the glass last season) and also displaces Katie McWilliams in the starting line-up (that won't happen unless Katie is injured), then please make room for Jazz right now on the All-PAC-12 15-member first team. Once again, I caution OSU fans from anointing Jazz as the best thing ever and allow her to work her way into the rotation and contribute where her strengths will allow during the non-conference games. If Jazz turns out to be as game-ready as Corosdale and Pivec have been during the past two seasons and can solidify her spot in the starting lineup prior to the start of PAC-12 Conference season, then I encourage Thickhead to come back on this thread and crow a bit about that accomplishment even more than usual. We'll have to calculate rebounds per minute played, not rebounds per game, since obviously Pivec will be playing a lot more minutes than Jasmine. With that condition, I'll accept that challenge. And as far as making the 15-member first team, note that KtMac didn't make it even as a Junior (one of 3 OSU players to receive honorable mention). So you don't have to be an all-conference first team member to outperform KtMac. And I said nothing about "prior to the start of the Pac-12 season", so don't pretend I did. Nor do I expect her to start, just saying she "could" be a starter. Rueck would probably not take KtMac out of the starting lineup, for the sake of team cohesion if nothing else. Jasmine is very obviously superior athletically (speed, vertical, strength) to KtMac and she's got the smarts to match. It's just a matter of time. Slocum is not the only newcomer this year who is gifted enough to displace a starter. Jasmine's athleticism (witness her showing off by grabbing that rim) also puts her a "cut above" any other player on our team, as 411500 opined above. |
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Post by bennyskid on Aug 16, 2018 9:46:42 GMT -8
It's just a matter of time.
The one thing you got right. It is just a matter of time before the freshman takes the senior captain's spot.
One year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 9:55:06 GMT -8
It's just a matter of time.
The one thing you got right. It is just a matter of time before the freshman takes the senior captain's spot.
One year.
Exactly. I didn't say it wouldn't take a year. And that's not the only thing I got right. If I got everything else wrong, then you're saying KtMac's athleticism is superior to Jasmine's, which is of course silly and contradicted by the evidence and all relevant metrics. Get real. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Aug 16, 2018 10:42:04 GMT -8
I am intrigued by the upcoming season - for exactly the reasons being debated here.....
Coach SR has in the past had a "new players must clearly displace the incumbent" approach, but I don't know that he has had new players coming in that are physically a drastic improvement over the incumbent starter. Especially if the incumbent is a senior (maybe junior), and maybe in the long view giving the incoming talent more "reps" in the non-conference season with the idea that it will pay off during the conference season.
Note that I have tried not to identify the incumbents thus far, but for sake of example - does SR trot AA out there as the starter over Joanna? Does he trot Jazz out there in favor of <?>.
All of that said, my sense is that modulo Destiny, all of the other starters for game 1 of the season will be some tasteful mix of Mik, Kat, KTMac in the backcourt, and likely Taya and Jo up front. I also suspect that by late December there might be a change there, but if so I suspect it will be at center before it happens in the back court. That said, Jo is not going to be standing still, and the question will become how Pac-12 ready AA or PM are versus how much year over year improvement can Jo show. Ideally, either AA/PM flash immediate all-Pac 12 talent, or Jo improves enough to hang on to her starter role (more likely, given the aforementioned predilection SR has to favor the incumbent).
More interesting than starter/bench might be the minutes the 12 players get: how do the 200 minutes get distributed? Do we have 10 players playing 20 minutes a game (keep everyone on the floor fresh, develop the newbies), or do we get a short bench by the time of Pac-12 rolls around (6 or 7 26-30 minute players, rest of bench just giving shorter bench quick rests), or do we get a game-by-game match up roster coaching chess match?
Fun times!
Go Beavers!
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Aug 16, 2018 10:50:15 GMT -8
If Jazz is going to play any time at the 4, I see it being in the mold of a Gabby Williams from UCONN. Both stand 5’11”, both can jump out of the gym, and both can stuff a stat sheet. UCONN played in the AAC and virtually could have started anyone on their team at the 4 and would have had the same outcome whereas the Pac-12 is a lot more competitive. Will be interesting to see if that is a technique Rueck will ever employ, especially since she has so much height at his disposal.
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