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Post by kersting13 on Jul 10, 2018 16:14:29 GMT -8
Batting helmets are an obvious good idea. Why do baserunners still wear them, while players on defense, especially in the infield, do not? It would see both sets of players are equally at risk for getting one to the melon in the field.. Fielders have gloves and are expecting the ball to be thrown to them, so they are always looking at/for it. Base runners do not have gloves and are looking at base coaches/attempting to run bases so balls going in their direction would be unexpected. This seems too obvious to actually have to be explained. How many times have you seen a situation where a fielder would have benefitted from having a helmet on? |
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 10, 2018 16:27:33 GMT -8
Fielders have gloves and are expecting the ball to be thrown to them, so they are always looking at/for it. Base runners do not have gloves and are looking at base coaches/attempting to run bases so balls going in their direction would be unexpected. This seems too obvious to actually have to be explained. How many times have you seen a situation where a fielder would have benefitted from having a helmet on? cruel but honest. When I was in high school, our coach decided that everyone had to wear batting helmets on defense! We protested but to no avail. I have no idea what the other teams thought of this, but I felt rather foolish standing out there in center field with a damned helmet on, instead of a school logo'd hat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2018 16:45:38 GMT -8
Fielders have gloves and are expecting the ball to be thrown to them, so they are always looking at/for it. Base runners do not have gloves and are looking at base coaches/attempting to run bases so balls going in their direction would be unexpected. This seems too obvious to actually have to be explained. How many times have you seen a situation where a fielder would have benefitted from having a helmet on? "thrown" balls aren't the concern. Its line drives..I thought that was obvious, but obviously not. So obviously I am making it obvious. Obviously the infielder should always be facing a batted ball. Always. There's no excuse. If that's true then the ball is going to hit them in the face and not the side of the head. So a traditional batting helmet isn't really appropriate. Maybe pitchers could wear some kind of face guard. But baseball has been around for a long time and fortunately baseballs to the faces of pitchers is rare or not too damaging. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jul 10, 2018 17:27:23 GMT -8
Fielders have gloves and are expecting the ball to be thrown to them, so they are always looking at/for it. Base runners do not have gloves and are looking at base coaches/attempting to run bases so balls going in their direction would be unexpected. This seems too obvious to actually have to be explained. How many times have you seen a situation where a fielder would have benefitted from having a helmet on? "thrown" balls aren't the concern. Its line drives..I thought that was obvious, but obviously not. So obviously I am making it obvious. Obviously And it's obviously stupid. Why don't we make all the players wear catchers gear, just in case? The only player in danger of a line drive hitting them in the head is the pitcher. If you play baseball and don't have the reaction time or hand eye coordination to stop a line drive from beaning you, then you have to quit, or play the outfield. Pitching danger can be mitigated by proper form. If you don't want to do that, you run the risk of ending up like Bryce Florie. I will admit that even good for can't stop a bad thing from happening, but that is no reason to change the game. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on Jul 10, 2018 17:43:04 GMT -8
I'm not trying to be mean, FTD is a good poster, I just really disagree with his take,and his double down on it.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jul 10, 2018 19:01:35 GMT -8
Batting helmets are an obvious good idea. Why do baserunners still wear them, while players on defense, especially in the infield, do not? It would see both sets of players are equally at risk for getting one to the melon in the field.. Take it to the rhetorical questions board. |
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Post by sagebrush on Jul 10, 2018 19:32:18 GMT -8
Go back to the old days hitting a runner to get him out
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Post by albanianbeav on Jul 10, 2018 20:51:04 GMT -8
When I was in high school, our coach decided that everyone had to wear batting helmets on defense! We protested but to no avail. I have no idea what the other teams thought of this, but I felt rather foolish standing out there in center field with a damned helmet on, instead of a school logo'd hat. This is hilarious. I’m guessing you had one player on the team that needed it, but he made you all do it so he didn’t stand out....maybe? |
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Post by kersting13 on Jul 10, 2018 21:54:42 GMT -8
Fielders have gloves and are expecting the ball to be thrown to them, so they are always looking at/for it. Base runners do not have gloves and are looking at base coaches/attempting to run bases so balls going in their direction would be unexpected. This seems too obvious to actually have to be explained. How many times have you seen a situation where a fielder would have benefitted from having a helmet on? "thrown" balls aren't the concern. Its line drives..I thought that was obvious, but obviously not. So obviously I am making it obvious. Obviously Sorry, I should have written fielders are expecting the ball to be thrown or hit to them, so they are always looking at/for it. As blowcheese noted, fielders are always looking at the ball, so a batter's helmet isn't going to protect them from danger. Base runners are not always looking at the ball, so they are at risk of getting hit in the side or back of the head. And that glove thing I mentioned before is still there for line drives. SaveSave |
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Post by nforkbeav on Jul 10, 2018 22:07:12 GMT -8
Base runners need helmets because their heads when diving back to a bag on a pick attempt are in the direct line of an incoming ball with no means to protect head otherwise should ball not be caught.
Most good coaches teach players starting at the youth level to look down or away from the throw when sliding head first into or back to a bag. Watched a kid from another team last year keep his eyes on the pitcher while diving back to third on a pick attempt and the ball subsequently drilled him right in the face.
You also run the risk of getting kicked in the head when sliding into a base.
At the end of the day, base runners wearing a helmet is tradition. Why would anyone want to f with that in the first place? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 11, 2018 4:53:23 GMT -8
When I was in high school, our coach decided that everyone had to wear batting helmets on defense! We protested but to no avail. I have no idea what the other teams thought of this, but I felt rather foolish standing out there in center field with a damned helmet on, instead of a school logo'd hat. John Olerud thinks your coach was a genius. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 11, 2018 6:38:29 GMT -8
When I was in high school, our coach decided that everyone had to wear batting helmets on defense! We protested but to no avail. I have no idea what the other teams thought of this, but I felt rather foolish standing out there in center field with a damned helmet on, instead of a school logo'd hat. John Olerud thinks your coach was a genius. Olerud wore a 'skull' cap not a batting helmet... |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 11, 2018 7:05:14 GMT -8
John Olerud thinks your coach was a genius. Olerud wore a 'skull' cap not a batting helmet... It was a "batting helmet" without the ear flaps. A skull cap is a knitted hat. Nice try. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 11, 2018 7:41:49 GMT -8
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 11, 2018 8:52:57 GMT -8
I'm sure I played a lot longer than you did. I've never heard that called a skull cap before though. Catchers cap but not skull cap.
I know in college that Olerud just referred to it as a helmet.
Also, every story referencing Olerud refers to it as a helmet and not a "skull cap"
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