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Post by kersting13 on Jul 11, 2018 14:23:41 GMT -8
Let me try to help you out here. This is where you should have stopped typing. If you really felt like you absolutely had to, maybe try this: You obviously never played the game... Huh, where I came from they were always called skull caps. In fact here is one of many examples of a baseball skull cap. Nice try!Just a helpful suggestion... True... depending on your audience. But, Mr 40 years playing baseball (I would guess ages 4-8 or 9 tee ball/coach pitch counts?) generally is correcting/dismissing people on being more precise. And, as always an uninvolved party chimes in with statements that were never typed. Like implying I stated they were ONLY called skull caps. The post I initially responded to was clearly incorrect as at the time of Olerud those were no longer "batting" helmets. However, I was sitting at Pdx, had time, and "baiting hooks" on this site is sort of fun. AND... very easy catch and release when dealing with those who call out others for exactly their MO. But... as stated, my initial post was clear and responded too in such a fashion that required no special lure. To you point again, to 95% of the posters my initial post would have been sufficient. Thx You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet. That is 100% utterly and totally INCORRECT. Olerud played in the MLB from 1989-2005, and for all but the last 3 years of his career, there was at least one player using a non-ear flapped helmet while batting - hence, it was an official MLB batting helmet for 14 of Olerud's 17 MLB seasons. I also like how you've attempted to backtrack and claim you were just trolling. There's exactly zero people here who believe that.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 11, 2018 15:23:51 GMT -8
True... depending on your audience. But, Mr 40 years playing baseball (I would guess ages 4-8 or 9 tee ball/coach pitch counts?) generally is correcting/dismissing people on being more precise. And, as always an uninvolved party chimes in with statements that were never typed. Like implying I stated they were ONLY called skull caps. The post I initially responded to was clearly incorrect as at the time of Olerud those were no longer "batting" helmets. However, I was sitting at Pdx, had time, and "baiting hooks" on this site is sort of fun. AND... very easy catch and release when dealing with those who call out others for exactly their MO. But... as stated, my initial post was clear and responded too in such a fashion that required no special lure. To you point again, to 95% of the posters my initial post would have been sufficient. Thx You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet. That is 100% utterly and totally INCORRECT. Olerud played in the MLB from 1989-2005, and for all but the last 3 years of his career, there was at least one player using a non-ear flapped helmet while batting - hence, it was an official MLB batting helmet for 14 of Olerud's 17 MLB seasons. I also like how you've attempted to backtrack and claim you were just trolling. There's exactly zero people here who believe that. Thank you... there is your typical MO! You are by far the biggest backtracker/purveyor of the circular argument to cover what you think is fact. You post a bunch of irrelevant crap to cover, "You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet." NOPE... Just stated it wasn't for him. He wore a skull cap in the field. He wasn't a grandfathered player, hence he wore a flap helmet for batting. Just as drafting teams don't draft for/consider need! Lol... you just chime into threads with some "Kreskin" like interpretation that you think is the only one. Then just make crap up, add some facts that makes you them think the rest is also fact. And, the best part you usually post things that eventually contradict your own... with some caveat of course. Outs quite humorous to read you flail away trying to be correct to an audience of unknowns! 🤣 Lets make it simple... posted FACTS: -link to show they were/still are called skull caps. Not just the "knitted" caps! -Olerud didn't wear it to hit as only grandfathered players could from 1983 on. He began his MLB career in like '89 or '90. -I never stated they were not ever batting helmets or called batting helmets -"zero people here who believe that." Ahhhh... cuz again you know🤣 and two, who cares? I'm pretty sure most don't post a bunch of fabrications and either way, pretty sure not many fret over who believes them. HA!
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 11, 2018 16:07:06 GMT -8
JFC this was an honest question. I got some good answers and some that were sort of smart-assed (to which I responded equally smart-assed since deleted by admin..GRRRR). Batters also wear other 'protection' devices that they remove while on base. Sure some of this can hinder movement and the likely hood of a serious injury to these parts (elbows, ankles) is low while on a base. what got deleted? wasn't me.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jul 11, 2018 18:05:12 GMT -8
maybe that has something to do with pitching underhand leaves them more exposed than throwing over the top. As well as the fact there's only 43 feet between home plate and the pitching rubber and the ball is larger.
Way closer than baseball. Infield is smaller too.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 11, 2018 18:13:04 GMT -8
You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet. That is 100% utterly and totally INCORRECT. Olerud played in the MLB from 1989-2005, and for all but the last 3 years of his career, there was at least one player using a non-ear flapped helmet while batting - hence, it was an official MLB batting helmet for 14 of Olerud's 17 MLB seasons. I also like how you've attempted to backtrack and claim you were just trolling. There's exactly zero people here who believe that. Thank you... there is your typical MO! You are by far the biggest backtracker/purveyor of the circular argument to cover what you think is fact. You post a bunch of irrelevant crap to cover, "You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet." NOPE... Just stated it wasn't for him. He wore a skull cap in the field. He wasn't a grandfathered player, hence he wore a flap helmet for batting. Just as drafting teams don't draft for/consider need! Lol... you just chime into threads with some "Kreskin" like interpretation that you think is the only one. Then just make crap up, add some facts that makes you them think the rest is also fact. And, the best part you usually post things that eventually contradict your own... with some caveat of course. Outs quite humorous to read you flail away trying to be correct to an audience of unknowns! 🤣 Lets make it simple... posted FACTS: -link to show they were/still are called skull caps. Not just the "knitted" caps! -Olerud didn't wear it to hit as only grandfathered players could from 1983 on. He began his MLB career in like '89 or '90. -I never stated they were not ever batting helmets or called batting helmets -"zero people here who believe that." Ahhhh... cuz again you know🤣 and two, who cares? I'm pretty sure most don't post a bunch of fabrications and either way, pretty sure not many fret over who believes them. HA! [ Olerud wore a “batting helmet” in the field in college. Keep backtracking by talking about only his mlb career where they made him wear a different kind of “helmet”. Put that in your “skull cap” and smoke it.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 11, 2018 18:52:44 GMT -8
JFC this was an honest question. I got some good answers and some that were sort of smart-assed (to which I responded equally smart-assed since deleted by admin..GRRRR). Batters also wear other 'protection' devices that they remove while on base. Sure some of this can hinder movement and the likely hood of a serious injury to these parts (elbows, ankles) is low while on a base. what got deleted? wasn't me. I did it.
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Post by kersting13 on Jul 11, 2018 18:55:46 GMT -8
You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet. That is 100% utterly and totally INCORRECT. Olerud played in the MLB from 1989-2005, and for all but the last 3 years of his career, there was at least one player using a non-ear flapped helmet while batting - hence, it was an official MLB batting helmet for 14 of Olerud's 17 MLB seasons. I also like how you've attempted to backtrack and claim you were just trolling. There's exactly zero people here who believe that. Thank you... there is your typical MO! You are by far the biggest backtracker/purveyor of the circular argument to cover what you think is fact. You post a bunch of irrelevant crap to cover, "You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet." NOPE... Just stated it wasn't for him. He wore a skull cap in the field. He wasn't a grandfathered player, hence he wore a flap helmet for batting. Just as drafting teams don't draft for/consider need! Lol... you just chime into threads with some "Kreskin" like interpretation that you think is the only one. Then just make crap up, add some facts that makes you them think the rest is also fact. And, the best part you usually post things that eventually contradict your own... with some caveat of course. Outs quite humorous to read you flail away trying to be correct to an audience of unknowns! 🤣 Lets make it simple... posted FACTS: -link to show they were/still are called skull caps. Not just the "knitted" caps! -Olerud didn't wear it to hit as only grandfathered players could from 1983 on. He began his MLB career in like '89 or '90. -I never stated they were not ever batting helmets or called batting helmets -"zero people here who believe that." Ahhhh... cuz again you know🤣 and two, who cares? I'm pretty sure most don't post a bunch of fabrications and either way, pretty sure not many fret over who believes them. HA! Wrong AGAIN, Baseba1111: This is your EXACT quote from page 1: "Olerud wore a 'skull' cap not a batting helmet..." A "skull cap" IS a batting helmet, and you know it. You are just psychologically incapable of admitting to being wrong. Wrong. You're wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, and we all know it, and we can all see how desperately you are trying to make silly minutiae circular arguments to try and cover yourself, but it always ends up being such a sad, sad revelation that you actually cannot admit you've ever been wrong. Honestly, we will still love you if you admit that you said something wrong. It won't end the world. But it makes you look like twice the fool when you continually double down on stupid crap like claiming a batting helmet without earflaps is NOT a batting helmet. Really. Get some mental help. SaveSave
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 11, 2018 21:08:55 GMT -8
Thank you... there is your typical MO! You are by far the biggest backtracker/purveyor of the circular argument to cover what you think is fact. You post a bunch of irrelevant crap to cover, "You claimed that what Olerud wore was NOT a batting helmet." NOPE... Just stated it wasn't for him. He wore a skull cap in the field. He wasn't a grandfathered player, hence he wore a flap helmet for batting. Just as drafting teams don't draft for/consider need! Lol... you just chime into threads with some "Kreskin" like interpretation that you think is the only one. Then just make crap up, add some facts that makes you them think the rest is also fact. And, the best part you usually post things that eventually contradict your own... with some caveat of course. Outs quite humorous to read you flail away trying to be correct to an audience of unknowns! 🤣 Lets make it simple... posted FACTS: -link to show they were/still are called skull caps. Not just the "knitted" caps! -Olerud didn't wear it to hit as only grandfathered players could from 1983 on. He began his MLB career in like '89 or '90. -I never stated they were not ever batting helmets or called batting helmets -"zero people here who believe that." Ahhhh... cuz again you know🤣 and two, who cares? I'm pretty sure most don't post a bunch of fabrications and either way, pretty sure not many fret over who believes them. HA! Wrong AGAIN, Baseba1111: This is your EXACT quote from page 1: "Olerud wore a 'skull' cap not a batting helmet..." A "skull cap" IS a batting helmet, and you know it. You are just psychologically incapable of admitting to being wrong. Wrong. You're wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, and we all know it, and we can all see how desperately you are trying to make silly minutiae circular arguments to try and cover yourself, but it always ends up being such a sad, sad revelation that you actually cannot admit you've ever been wrong. Honestly, we will still love you if you admit that you said something wrong. It won't end the world. But it makes you look like twice the fool when you continually double down on stupid crap like claiming a batting helmet without earflaps is NOT a batting helmet. Really. Get some mental help. SaveSaveNo... actually I exposed you and explained it quite clearly. Batting helmets by rule had to have ear flaps in Olerud's era... college and pro. The "official" batting helmet from 1983 on had flaps. That's why players were "grandfathered" because they were not using the official/ required head gear. Again what he wore in the field could not be a batting helmet in college or MLB. You can call it whatever you'd like, but he certainly could not wear it betting no matter your inclination. Pretty simple dot-to-dot logic. The only person "mental" seens to be you and your incessant talk of being "right". This is like explaining the facts of Luke's case and the appropriate vocabulary. Only proves common sense isn't all that common! So... your intentional ignorance is now boring. I'll just be an "org player" 🤣 to allow you to try and be right... rack your skull for your next clever response. PS- I've fessed up to mistakes on this board several times. Including a biggie... mixing up coaching against PC at WLinn when it was PB. But, then again most people on here don't keep "score"! Some seem to think they do🍻
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Post by kersting13 on Jul 11, 2018 21:34:21 GMT -8
Wrong AGAIN, Baseba1111: This is your EXACT quote from page 1: "Olerud wore a 'skull' cap not a batting helmet..." A "skull cap" IS a batting helmet, and you know it. You are just psychologically incapable of admitting to being wrong. Wrong. You're wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, and we all know it, and we can all see how desperately you are trying to make silly minutiae circular arguments to try and cover yourself, but it always ends up being such a sad, sad revelation that you actually cannot admit you've ever been wrong. Honestly, we will still love you if you admit that you said something wrong. It won't end the world. But it makes you look like twice the fool when you continually double down on stupid crap like claiming a batting helmet without earflaps is NOT a batting helmet. Really. Get some mental help. SaveSaveNo... actually I exposed you and explained it quite clearly. Batting helmets by rule had to have ear flaps in Olerud's era. Again what he wore in the field could not be a batting helmet in college or MLB. You can call it whatever you'd like, but he certainly could not wear it betting no matter your inclination. Pretty simple dot-to-dot logic. The only person "mental" seens to be you and your incessant talk of being "right". This is like explaining the facts of Luke's case and the appropriate vocabulary. Only proves common sense isn't all that common! So... your intentional ignorance is now boring. I'll just be an "org player" 🤣 to allow you to try and be right... rack your skull for your next clever response. PS- I've fessed up to mistakes on this board several times. Including a biggie... mixing up coaching against PC at WLinn when it was PB. But, then again most people on here don't keep "score"! Some seem to think they do🍻 It's really funny seeing how far you'll try to go to claim that John Olerud didn't wear a batting helmet in the field. Just because it was not legal for Olerud to wear that helmet while HE was batting doesn't make it "not a batting helmet". Tim Raines wore the same exact helmet while batting DURING the time Olerud was a player, under your Bizarro World logic, can we call his helmet a "batting helmet" because he wore it while he was batting? If Olerud wore Tim's helmet in the field, would we be able to call it a batting helmet? Do you even read the sh!t that you type? The fact that you use the word "logic" in your post should embarrass you. Everyone who has read any of your posts in this thread feels more stupid for having read it. SaveSave
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Post by fishwrapper on Jul 11, 2018 22:01:53 GMT -8
Oh for fcuks sake...
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 11, 2018 22:03:55 GMT -8
Ha... haven't heard that one in a while!
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Post by albanianbeav on Jul 11, 2018 22:25:58 GMT -8
For what it is worth; when mbabeav first posted about having to wear a batting helmet in the outfield when he was in high school, I envisioned the ones with the flaps (both sides like we used to wear), not the Olerud style. I’m not siding with anyone here, just some qualitative evidence to be considered. Further, we used to wear the flapless hardhats all the time and didn’t feel silly at all. The big question here, I believe, is for mbabeav; when you used the term ‘batting helmets’ to describe your high school gear, did they have flaps or not? And, food for thought; maybe be a bit more specific next time in your original post😉!....I’m going to get some popcorn.
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Post by TheGlove on Jul 11, 2018 22:35:23 GMT -8
I remember my high school’s team wore those plastic replica helmets in the field instead of hats. Mid 80s.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 11, 2018 22:52:38 GMT -8
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Post by albanianbeav on Jul 11, 2018 22:53:02 GMT -8
Same timeframe. We didn’t wear them in games though. For games, our batting helmets were just for batting/baserinning and consisted of a community pool of roughly 8 helmets, and MAYBE 4 different sizes. There were times when the bases were loaded that your size was all out in the field. Nothing like exerting all your energy to extend the ear flaps to get your head into a too small helmet.....or looking through the ear hole after a big cut at a fastball in a too large helmet. Good times.
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