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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 10, 2018 19:33:26 GMT -8
The Baltimore Orioles were the 1970 World Series champions, won it in five games over the Reds. The A's won in 1972-74.
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Post by kersting13 on Jul 10, 2018 21:46:22 GMT -8
The Baltimore Orioles were the 1970 World Series champions, won it in five games over the Reds. The A's won in 1972-74. 1970 was the year that Brooks Robinson stole everything that Johnny Bench hit. SaveSave
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Post by baseba1111 on Jul 10, 2018 22:02:51 GMT -8
The Baltimore Orioles were the 1970 World Series champions, won it in five games over the Reds. The A's won in 1972-74. 1970 was the year that Brooks Robinson stole everything that Johnny Bench hit. SaveSaveWas the guy that convinced me you can contribute without being a great hitter. Always seemed to get big hits, but only hit .300 twice/.267 career, never hit 30 HRs, but I think 16 straight Gold Gloves. He looked like Gumby at 3B.
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 11, 2018 9:49:48 GMT -8
The Baltimore Orioles were the 1970 World Series champions, won it in five games over the Reds. The A's won in 1972-74. 1970 was the year that Brooks Robinson stole everything that Johnny Bench hit. SaveSaveDam Orioles....
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Post by rollotomasi on Jul 11, 2018 10:13:00 GMT -8
Pitcher Overuse. It can be a real problem.
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Post by spudbeaver on Jul 11, 2018 12:26:11 GMT -8
1970 was the year that Brooks Robinson stole everything that Johnny Bench hit. SaveSaveDam Orioles.... As a lifetime Oriole fan that seems like 50 years ago. Wait, what?
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 11, 2018 14:21:49 GMT -8
Pitcher Overuse. It can be a real problem. I don't see any problem there. Neither would any Arkansas (or most other) fan, but if you lift that right arm too many times, there will be issues, just not maybe elbow issues.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 11, 2018 14:58:42 GMT -8
I don't see any problem there. Neither would any Arkansas (or most other) fan, but if you lift that right arm too many times, there will be issues, just not maybe elbow issues. That is why it is good to be a switch pitcher.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jul 11, 2018 17:36:48 GMT -8
Pigs gotta bitch about something. And they do.
”WPS....”.....
i got got so tired of that...
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Post by jefframp on Jul 12, 2018 15:58:51 GMT -8
Oh...now I get it.......WPS = Wacko Pitcher Switchers
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Post by EOBeav on Jul 12, 2018 19:36:01 GMT -8
Some pitchers have an easy enough arm motion that they can throw lots of nasty pitches and heat and last for a long time, Nolan Ryan, and Roger Clemens as an example. The last CWS pitcher to have a performance even close to that of Abel's? Roger Clemens. Probably not a coincidence given that their styles are so comparable.
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Post by eugenedave on Jul 12, 2018 20:16:31 GMT -8
Some pitchers have an easy enough arm motion that they can throw lots of nasty pitches and heat and last for a long time, Nolan Ryan, and Roger Clemens as an example. The last CWS pitcher to have a performance even close to that of Abel's? Roger Clemens. Probably not a coincidence given that their styles are so comparable. Comparing Clemens to Abel.Let's hope he's that good.Clemens that is.
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Post by vhalum92 on Jul 13, 2018 8:35:26 GMT -8
Razorback fans crying pitcher overuse abuse crack me up. I was just looking at YouTube and noticed the 1965 World Series game 7 between the Twins and Dodgers came up. Sandy Koufax started on 2 days rest after pitching 9 innings the previous game. Koufax pitched all 9 innings of this game. a three hit shutout. He had pitched on 3 days rest his previous start. This was typical. I remember one game that was between the Braves (Spahn) and the Cards (Gibson) and both pitchers were pitching into the 12th. Gibson refused to be relieved, because Spahn was in his 40s and still in. All three are in the HOF. Now the bar is at a 100 pitches and 4 days rest and its not unusual to see them on the DL. When Bumgarner threw 68 pitches in game 7 of the 2014 WS on 2 days rest after throwing 117 in game 5 he was hailed as a hero (also threw 106 pitches game 1). I was able to watch one of those ESPN 60 shows last week or so, the subject was reviewing the Perfect Games Pitched in the MLB... lots of interviews, great highlights etc... The one theme I noted was that each and every pitcher talked about how good they felt going out in the 9th. I know Abel didn't pitch a perfect game but the correlation I'm making is as an athlete when it is your day and you are "ON" everything comes effortlessly. Throw in (see what I did there) having the College National Championship in the balance and I just don't see how any coach could pull him. Easy for others to pick on the judgement our coaches had to make but I think we all saw how comfortable he was and I often commented it just looked easy for him to pitch that day. My other observation is several of those pitchers who have pitched a perfect game were not hall of fame caliber type guys. Further reinforcing some days as an athlete are just better than others, and that is why they play the games. Excited to keep watching Abel pitch, I do think he is a special one.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 13, 2018 9:25:23 GMT -8
Most perfect-game pitchers are exceptional players. Only one or two caught lightning in a jar. Modern era perfect game pitchers (not including Harvey Haddix, as MLB does not consider the greatest game ever pitched to be a perfect game):
Don Larsen: average at best. Jim Bunning: HOF Sandy Koufax: HOF Catfish Hunter: HOF Len Barker: average at best Mike Witt: above-average MLB pitcher Tom Browning: above-average MLB pitcher Dennis Martínez: Almost-elite level MLB starter. Kenny Rogers: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. David Wells: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. David Cone: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. Randy Johnson: HOF Mark Buehrle: Borderline HOF, outstanding MLB pitcher. Dallas Braden: Injuries, small sample size Roy Halladay: Probable HOF Philip Humber: Total outlier, flash in the pan. Matt Cain: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. Félix Hernández: Elite pitcher in his prime.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jul 13, 2018 9:30:34 GMT -8
Most perfect-game pitchers are exceptional players. Only one or two caught lightning in a jar. Modern era perfect game pitchers (not including Harvey Haddix, as MLB does not consider the greatest game ever pitched to be a perfect game): Don Larsen: average at best. Jim Bunning: HOF Sandy Koufax: HOF Catfish Hunter: HOF Len Barker: average at best Mike Witt: above-average MLB pitcher Tom Browning: above-average MLB pitcher Dennis Martínez: Almost-elite level MLB starter. Kenny Rogers: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. David Wells: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. David Cone: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. Randy Johnson: HOF Mark Buehrle: Borderline HOF, outstanding MLB pitcher. Dallas Braden: Injuries, small sample size Roy Halladay: Probable HOF Philip Humber: Total outlier, flash in the pan. Matt Cain: Outstanding for several years, above-average career. Félix Hernández: Elite pitcher in his prime. It's too bad that Kenny Rogers had the bad plastic surgery and the failed chicken empire. Ruined his career.
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