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Post by kersting13 on Dec 12, 2019 9:35:40 GMT -8
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Post by sagebrush on Dec 12, 2019 11:20:39 GMT -8
Spring training will be a great opportunity for him to learn what he has to do to advance. Outstanding move by the O's.
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Post by grackle on Dec 20, 2019 8:14:14 GMT -8
Perhaps the O's won't send Adley to "A" or "AA" ball after spring training just for the sake of it? If he shows ML-level capacity and ability this spring, I would hope they'd be forward thinking enough to leave him on the big club when the season starts.
Just my view, but I've seen three or four (more?) catchers now in the majors that overall are less skilled than Adley.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 20, 2019 8:18:25 GMT -8
Hopefully they won't send Adley to "A" or "AA" ball after spring training just for the sake of it. If he shows ML-level capacity and ability this spring, maybe they'll be forward thinking enough to leave him on the big club when the season starts. Just my view, but I've seen three or four (more?) catchers now in the majors that overall are far less skilled than Adley. Highly doubt he stays on the roster at the beginning of the year. They are likely to pull the Kris Bryant move and put him in AA or AAA and bring him up in a month or two so they have control of him for another year.
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Post by grackle on Dec 20, 2019 8:23:14 GMT -8
Hopefully they won't send Adley to "A" or "AA" ball after spring training just for the sake of it. If he shows ML-level capacity and ability this spring, maybe they'll be forward thinking enough to leave him on the big club when the season starts. Just my view, but I've seen three or four (more?) catchers now in the majors that overall are far less skilled than Adley. Highly doubt he stays on the roster at the beginning of the year. They are likely to pull the Kris Bryant move and put him in AA or AAA and bring him up in a month or two so they have control of him for another year. Yeah, things are pretty complicated that way, aren't they? C'est la major leagues......
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 20, 2019 12:44:39 GMT -8
It will be interesting to see how fast they bring him up. Barring injuries, He probably lands either at A+ or AA to start the season. He probably makes it to AAA to end the season and is invited to Spring Training in 2021. I hear that he is still struggling to get 100% up-to-speed hitting professional pitching. If that clicks for him early, maybe he makes it the majors in June?
We'll see...........
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 20, 2019 13:51:40 GMT -8
Perhaps the O's won't send Adley to "A" or "AA" ball after spring training just for the sake of it? If he shows ML-level capacity and ability this spring, I would hope they'd be forward thinking enough to leave him on the big club when the season starts. Just my view, but I've seen three or four (more?) catchers now in the majors that overall are less skilled than Adley. Hmmmm... they are at the MLB level and have performed... no matter the level it has been vs MLB competition and the everyday rigors. AR has not seen close to that level of talent or the day to day grind. Fan or not, AR is no way close to being an MLB catcher... or backup. Raw talent is only a portion of the total "skill" equation.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 20, 2019 14:58:39 GMT -8
Hmmmm... they are at the MLB level and have performed... no matter the level it has been vs MLB competition and the everyday rigors. AR has not seen close to that level of talent or the day to day grind. Fan or not, AR is no way close to being an MLB catcher... or backup. Raw talent is only a portion of the total "skill" equation. What is your definition of close? I'd say he's very likely to be in the big leagues in less than 1.5 seasons (early/mid 2021 at worse). That's pretty close to me. In relation to the post I quoted.... as being better/ready over current MLB catchers.
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Post by mbabeav on Dec 20, 2019 17:45:01 GMT -8
What is your definition of close? I'd say he's very likely to be in the big leagues in less than 1.5 seasons (early/mid 2021 at worse). That's pretty close to me. In relation to the post I quoted.... as being better/ready over current MLB catchers. A catcher is valued first and foremost by how he handles the pitching staff - been more than a few catchers that hung in the bigs just because they were one starter's fav backstop out of the entire team. Adley's already getting high marks for his ability there - but even the best young catchers take a bit more time to move up than any other position player because it is a much more complex spot than 1st base or the outfield. He'll be quick to AAA in my estimation, and the bat will come around. Orioles going long on him, no short cuts.
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Post by giantkillers83 on Dec 20, 2019 18:41:54 GMT -8
Hmmm.... guess that’s why they drafted him......#1-1. ( I kid ) no matter where Adley starts.... he’ll do well. It’s only a matter of time before he gets to the Park. Short time.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 20, 2019 18:48:24 GMT -8
In relation to the post I quoted.... as being better/ready over current MLB catchers. A catcher is valued first and foremost by how he handles the pitching staff - been more than a few catchers that hung in the bigs just because they were one starter's fav backstop out of the entire team. Adley's already getting high marks for his ability there - but even the best young catchers take a bit more time to move up than any other position player because it is a much more complex spot than 1st base or the outfield. He'll be quick to AAA in my estimation, and the bat will come around. Orioles going long on him, no short cuts. Actually for a player of Adley's caliber AAA is probably not in his future, at least not in terms of development. AA is typically the top of the line for young highly touted prospects... better talent, younger then AAA. In recent years AAA has become the depository for older, more experienced players with MLB experience trying to get back to MLB. For the most part it's become better talent vs MLB experience separation. AAA is used to season some younger players, but typically the most talented that have good success at AA are MLB bound. handling of pitchers is indeed important, but it tough to judge at the lower levels as a catcher is often faced with an ever changing pitching staff, much more than typically happens at the MLB level. But, a kid can't hit his 'weight plus at least 30' in the minors (as one old time scout told me) a catcher's defensive prowess won't be a factor. The aforementioned scout, along with a couple others over the years, also mentioned that while switch hitting is a plus if a kid struggles at the plate long he might be asked to focus on one side. The preference is to keep him as switch, but hopefully LH is his strongest side of the plate if a choice is to be made. Whatever the Orioles do they need him and several prospects to be 'hits' and are in a long rebuild so they'll take their time with development.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 20, 2019 18:54:28 GMT -8
A catcher is valued first and foremost by how he handles the pitching staff - been more than a few catchers that hung in the bigs just because they were one starter's fav backstop out of the entire team. Adley's already getting high marks for his ability there - but even the best young catchers take a bit more time to move up than any other position player because it is a much more complex spot than 1st base or the outfield. He'll be quick to AAA in my estimation, and the bat will come around. Orioles going long on him, no short cuts. Actually for a player of Adley's caliber AAA is probably not in his future, at least not in terms of development. AA is typically the top of the line for young highly touted prospects... better talent, younger then AAA. In recent years AAA has become the depository for older, more experienced players with MLB experience trying to get back to MLB. For the most part it's become better talent vs MLB experience separation. AAA is used to season some younger players, but typically the most talented that have good success at AA are MLB bound. handling of pitchers is indeed important, but it tough to judge at the lower levels as a catcher is often faced with an ever changing pitching staff, much more than typically happens at the MLB level. But, a kid can't hit his 'weight plus at least 30' in the minors (as one old time scout told me) a catcher's defensive prowess won't be a factor. The aforementioned scout, along with a couple others over the years, also mentioned that while switch hitting is a plus if a kid struggles at the plate long he might be asked to focus on one side. The preference is to keep him as switch, but hopefully LH is his strongest side of the plate if a choice is to be made. Whatever the Orioles do they need him and several prospects to be 'hits' and are in a long rebuild so they'll take their time with development. I would agree. He will likely start at A+ or. AA this year. I don’t think you will see him up until at least 2021. He didn’t exactly set the world on fire hitting last year. And yes, I know he was sick, but he’s going to have to prove himself a little longer.
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Post by grackle on Dec 21, 2019 9:09:13 GMT -8
Perhaps the O's won't send Adley to "A" or "AA" ball after spring training just for the sake of it? If he shows ML-level capacity and ability this spring, I would hope they'd be forward thinking enough to leave him on the big club when the season starts. Just my view, but I've seen three or four (more?) catchers now in the majors that overall are less skilled than Adley. Hmmmm... they are at the MLB level and have performed... no matter the level it has been vs MLB competition and the everyday rigors. AR has not seen close to that level of talent or the day to day grind. Fan or not, AR is no way close to being an MLB catcher... or backup. Raw talent is only a portion of the total "skill" equation. Well, I defer to your knowledge of what it takes to catch in the Bigs. But boy-oh-boy there have been some jokers I've seen with the Mariners, and others, these last few years that (i) absolutely couldn't hit, and (ii) had A LOT of trouble throwing people out at 2nd base.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 21, 2019 9:33:35 GMT -8
Hmmmm... they are at the MLB level and have performed... no matter the level it has been vs MLB competition and the everyday rigors. AR has not seen close to that level of talent or the day to day grind. Fan or not, AR is no way close to being an MLB catcher... or backup. Raw talent is only a portion of the total "skill" equation. Well, I defer to your knowledge of what it takes to catch in the Bigs. But boy-oh-boy there have been some jokers I've seen with the Mariners, and others, these last few years that (i) absolutely couldn't hit, and (ii) had A LOT of trouble throwing people out at 2nd base. Oh... I thought you were talking MAJOR league baseball! 😁🍻
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Post by qbeaver on Dec 21, 2019 10:20:38 GMT -8
Such a class kid and a great representative for osu baseball...once in a lifetime athlete. He deserves all the success he will surely see.
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