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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 22, 2019 13:59:57 GMT -8
Definition of "bust" is highly open to interpretation. Chris Davis certainly struggles at the plate, but he is there to play and potentially help your team. $ for $ he's less a bust than a guy collecting a paycheck for the better part of three (will be 4 in 2020) seasons doing nothing to help the team win. Not that the Orioles win... Chris Davis is not potentially helping his team. He's terrible and they're only playing him because they are paying him so much and they feel obligated to play him. If you're producing stats you're are potentially helping vs sitting at home. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Nov 22, 2019 14:05:13 GMT -8
Definition of "bust" is highly open to interpretation. Chris Davis certainly struggles at the plate, but he is there to play and potentially help your team. $ for $ he's less a bust than a guy collecting a paycheck for the better part of three (will be 4 in 2020) seasons doing nothing to help the team win. Not that the Orioles win... Chris Davis is not potentially helping his team. He's terrible and they're only playing him because they are paying him so much and they feel obligated to play him. In fact, he was so bad he actually crossed the threshold from we feel obligated to play you every day to.. uh, Chris, let's sit this one out today - and was down 170 ABs compared to the previous year. I still have JaMarcus Russell as my #1 bust in the last 20 years though. |
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Post by kersting13 on Nov 22, 2019 14:12:38 GMT -8
Chris Davis is not potentially helping his team. He's terrible and they're only playing him because they are paying him so much and they feel obligated to play him. If you're producing stats you're are potentially helping vs sitting at home. My grandma could go out to the field and "potentially" help, that doesn't make it a good idea. Chris Davis has been so bad the past 3 years that he's actually hurting his team. He's compiled a 0 or negative WAR over each of the last 3 years. Jacoby Ellsbury LITERALLY did more to help the Yankees win in 2018-19 than Chris Davis did to help the Orioles. Davis will earn another $69 million over the next 3 years, and if the Orioles were smart, they'd cut him and pay him to not make their team worse. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 22, 2019 14:12:45 GMT -8
Chris Davis is not potentially helping his team. He's terrible and they're only playing him because they are paying him so much and they feel obligated to play him. If you're producing stats you're are potentially helping vs sitting at home. OK...well, you could put me out there and I would produce stats..... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 22, 2019 14:33:39 GMT -8
If you're producing stats you're are potentially helping vs sitting at home. My grandma could go out to the field and "potentially" help, that doesn't make it a good idea. Chris Davis has been so bad the past 3 years that he's actually hurting his team. He's compiled a 0 or negative WAR over each of the last 3 years. Jacoby Ellsbury LITERALLY did more to help the Yankees win in 2018-19 than Chris Davis did to help the Orioles. Davis will earn another $69 million over the next 3 years, and if the Orioles were smart, they'd cut him and pay him to not make their team worse. Lol... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 22, 2019 14:35:44 GMT -8
If you're producing stats you're are potentially helping vs sitting at home. OK...well, you could put me out there and I would produce stats..... Not even his. Nor the ones that got him the contract. Another Beaver homer thread. Guy who makes equal or more isn't the bust to the guy actually playing?! Novel... guess Bradford should sit the remaining games? Lol |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 22, 2019 14:47:47 GMT -8
OK...well, you could put me out there and I would produce stats..... Not even his. Nor the ones that got him the contract. Another Beaver homer thread. Guy who makes equal or more isn't the bust to the guy actually playing?! Novel... guess Bradford should sit the remaining games? Lol You haven't seen me hit. Corvallis City League softball champ here! And yes, Bradford should sit the whole baseball season. You can't even remember what board you're on... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 22, 2019 15:06:55 GMT -8
Trying to workout a new deal since he was so instrumental to their success... not playing! |
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Post by beaverdude on Nov 22, 2019 15:54:40 GMT -8
They Yankees are seeking arbitration to recover some of the 26mil they owe him....
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 22, 2019 17:04:51 GMT -8
A "Beaver homer" thread on an OSU message board. Imagine that.
Jacoby did not hurt the Yankees this year. He did not take up a spot in the lineup, on the 25-man active roster, or on the 40-man MLB roster, since he was on the 60-day IL. The Yankees could play a productive player in his place.
And as the richest franchise in MLB, they easily had the money to pay him, under the terms of his contract, which they willingly agreed to many years ago. So unless you want to undo centuries of contract law, Jacoby was fully entitled to the compensation he received.
Davis did hurt the Orioles this year, and in fact has hurt them considerably over the last several seasons by being a wholly unproductive spot in the lineup while sucking up millions from a franchise with dwindling resources thanks to a monumental decline in home attendance.
I don't consider players whose careers were ended by injury as "busts." He could not contribute because of physical reasons. Was Ernie Davis a first-round "bust" because he died before he ever played a down for the Browns?
Chris Davis was healthy enough to contribute, but didn't because he just sucks. He's a bust.
And the Yankees are not going to win a lawsuit against the Players Association. That's not happening.
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Post by mbabeav on Nov 22, 2019 17:05:33 GMT -8
When someone literally "busts their butt" trying to be the best player he can be, and his contract is what it is, then he ought not to be penalized because of it. The Yankees and Jake both signed in good faith, and this joke of a claim that he got unsanctioned medical treatment (because what the team was providing was obviously so successful) is a joke that not many arbitrators will give a lot of weight to. There will be some sort of settlement, but the Yankees rational for it is laughable.
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 22, 2019 18:32:42 GMT -8
A "Beaver homer" thread on an OSU message board. Imagine that. Jacoby did not hurt the Yankees this year. He did not take up a spot in the lineup, on the 25-man active roster, or on the 40-man MLB roster, since he was on the 60-day IL. The Yankees could play a productive player in his place. And as the richest franchise in MLB, they easily had the money to pay him, under the terms of his contract, which they willingly agreed to many years ago. So unless you want to undo centuries of contract law, Jacoby was fully entitled to the compensation he received. Davis did hurt the Orioles this year, and in fact has hurt them considerably over the last several seasons by being a wholly unproductive spot in the lineup while sucking up millions from a franchise with dwindling resources thanks to a monumental decline in home attendance. I don't consider players whose careers were ended by injury as "busts." He could not contribute because of physical reasons. Was Ernie Davis a first-round "bust" because he died before he ever played a down for the Browns? Chris Davis was healthy enough to contribute, but didn't because he just sucks. He's a bust. And the Yankees are not going to win a lawsuit against the Players Association. That's not happening. It's a homer thread... let's go thru all the non Beavers to make big $ and not play up to the $ because of injury... considered a bust. Period. JE had injuries, couldn't play, but when you're paid 9 digits and don't produce, for whatever reason, you're a bust! It's a label not a blame. And, not a Beaver would be labeled a bust in the same situation. But, as I mentioned in the opener, bust is open to wide interpretation. Betting more baseball people than not think JE is a bust. And, certainly those Yankee fans do. Like it or not he'll be considered a bust forever by many no matter what ridiculous crap you post to the contrary. And... Lol... nice try, what big contract did Ernie bust on? Great apples to... what, transit bus comparison. Holy smokes. That should tell you right there when something is a homer thread! Lol... Ernie Davis... wow. PS- simple fact, Chris does suck, but teams still sit or release guys and eat their salary. He produced stats to help the team... Orioles played him. Bust, but actually played. I'm betting probably thru some injuries over the years. PSS- JE was on the 40 man, hence the article and release and the impetus for the entire stupid discussion. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 22, 2019 18:41:04 GMT -8
A "Beaver homer" thread on an OSU message board. Imagine that. Jacoby did not hurt the Yankees this year. He did not take up a spot in the lineup, on the 25-man active roster, or on the 40-man MLB roster, since he was on the 60-day IL. The Yankees could play a productive player in his place. And as the richest franchise in MLB, they easily had the money to pay him, under the terms of his contract, which they willingly agreed to many years ago. So unless you want to undo centuries of contract law, Jacoby was fully entitled to the compensation he received. Davis did hurt the Orioles this year, and in fact has hurt them considerably over the last several seasons by being a wholly unproductive spot in the lineup while sucking up millions from a franchise with dwindling resources thanks to a monumental decline in home attendance. I don't consider players whose careers were ended by injury as "busts." He could not contribute because of physical reasons. Was Ernie Davis a first-round "bust" because he died before he ever played a down for the Browns? Chris Davis was healthy enough to contribute, but didn't because he just sucks. He's a bust. And the Yankees are not going to win a lawsuit against the Players Association. That's not happening. It's a homer thread... let's go thru all the non Beavers to make big $ and not play up to the $ because of injury... considered a bust. Period. JE had injuries, couldn't play, but when you're paid 9 digits and don't produce, for whatever reason, you're a bust! It's a label not a blame. And, not a Beaver would be labeled a bust in the same situation. But, as I mentioned in the opener, bust is open to wide interpretation. Betting more baseball people than not think JE is a bust. And, certainly those Yankee fans do. Like it or not he'll be considered a bust forever by many no matter what ridiculous crap you post to the contrary. And... Lol... nice try, what big contract did Ernie bust on? Great apples to... what, transit bus comparison. Holy smokes. That should tell you right there when something is a homer thread! Lol... Ernie Davis... wow. PS- simple fact, Chris does suck, but teams still sit or release guys and eat their salary. He produced stats to help the team... Orioles played him. Bust, but actually played. I'm betting probably thru some injuries over the years. PSS- JE was on the 40 man, hence the article and release and the impetus for the entire stupid discussion. So anyone that plays “helps” the team? You better never complain about any Beaver player ever again. Good luck with that. We might as well ban you from the board today. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 22, 2019 19:08:46 GMT -8
It's a homer thread... let's go thru all the non Beavers to make big $ and not play up to the $ because of injury... considered a bust. Period. JE had injuries, couldn't play, but when you're paid 9 digits and don't produce, for whatever reason, you're a bust! It's a label not a blame. And, not a Beaver would be labeled a bust in the same situation. But, as I mentioned in the opener, bust is open to wide interpretation. Betting more baseball people than not think JE is a bust. And, certainly those Yankee fans do. Like it or not he'll be considered a bust forever by many no matter what ridiculous crap you post to the contrary. And... Lol... nice try, what big contract did Ernie bust on? Great apples to... what, transit bus comparison. Holy smokes. That should tell you right there when something is a homer thread! Lol... Ernie Davis... wow. PS- simple fact, Chris does suck, but teams still sit or release guys and eat their salary. He produced stats to help the team... Orioles played him. Bust, but actually played. I'm betting probably thru some injuries over the years. PSS- JE was on the 40 man, hence the article and release and the impetus for the entire stupid discussion. So anyone that plays “helps” the team? You better never complain about any Beaver player ever again. Good luck with that. We might as well ban you from the board today. They do over one that doesn't see the field! |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 22, 2019 19:41:23 GMT -8
So anyone that plays “helps” the team? You better never complain about any Beaver player ever again. Good luck with that. We might as well ban you from the board today. They do over one that doesn't see the field! Good. So only positive posts about Beaver players now, right. If not, you’re the biggest frickin hippocrite on this board. Never mind, there’s no chance of that. You might as well leave this board now. |
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