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Post by Bodhisattva on Jun 13, 2018 7:41:52 GMT -8
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 14, 2018 6:59:20 GMT -8
Seems like this would have been very relevant information to share a year ago.
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Post by obf on Jun 14, 2018 8:24:23 GMT -8
Here is part 1, with a compelling timeline included from the family friend, and a sad confirmation of what I had fear from the start: angrybeavs.com/baseball/13884From the very first time I read Moran's article, my first thought was, "Welp, good job, Danny, you just outed a middle school girl as being molested to all of her friends..." and then my second thought was "I hope none of her cohorts are Beaver fans or she is going to get mega shade for ruining the 2017 season" Obviously, I know that she had nothing to do with the story getting printed, or Luke not pitching, or Gregg Street being a blind moron , but middle schoolers are not nearly as nuanced as an adult (Duh, kind of the whole point of the juvenile justice system, sigh...) Anyway, the family friends account of things seems to verify that Moran's article has done as much, maybe MORE damage to this poor young lady as whatever evil Heimlich may (or may not) have commited... The most pertinent and very sad, imho, excerpts from the family friend: And: I don't know what Luke did or didn't do, and I never will. But I DO KNOW if the Oregonian truly was interested or worried about the victim, about protecting her, in this case, they would have buried the tainted background check and court documents they found in the deepest hole they could. I am sure they feel smug and self righteous about the whole thing, but someday I hope the are wracked with the mountain of guilty, disgust and self loathing they have fully earned. Not for Luke, or for whatever he fate becomes, but for the poor girl they retraumatised, and continue to retraumatise over and over and over again, and then pat themselves on the back afterwards every time... Can a victim send a cease and desist letter to a newspaper to get them to stop abusing them?
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Post by nabeav on Jun 14, 2018 11:29:03 GMT -8
Was she re-traumatized? The article seems to speculate that could happen, and then say “by all accounts, she is happy and thriving in her father’s care.”
In the SI story, I believe the author said something about the girl happy and smiling while shooting hoops in the driveway.
So aside from this anonymous family friend saying someone asked her about it at school, what evidence do we have that the girl was negatively affected at all by the story?
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Post by obf on Jun 14, 2018 14:08:22 GMT -8
Was she re-traumatized? The article seems to speculate that could happen, and then say “by all accounts, she is happy and thriving in her father’s care.” In the SI story, I believe the author said something about the girl happy and smiling while shooting hoops in the driveway. So aside from this anonymous family friend saying someone asked her about it at school, what evidence do we have that the girl was negatively affected at all by the story? Not anonymous she gave a byline: KRISTINE ERICKSON Although I guess that could be fake? Maybe you don't remeber being a middle school girl, but my middle school girls read something into everything, every sideway glance (even when they were not sideways), nit picked and wondered about ad nauseam, etc. The fact that you can even wonder if it was OK for a 12 year old to be asked about being touched "inside and out" by her uncle at school by her classmates, and her just being okie dokie, just another lunch room convo, this is fun!... speaks volumes.
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Post by obf on Jun 14, 2018 14:16:07 GMT -8
Was she re-traumatized? The article seems to speculate that could happen, and then say “by all accounts, she is happy and thriving in her father’s care.”
In the SI story, I believe the author said something about the girl happy and smiling while shooting hoops in the driveway. So aside from this anonymous family friend saying someone asked her about it at school, what evidence do we have that the girl was negatively affected at all by the story? I shouldn't have posted excerpts, I should have just let people read the article for themselves, but I agree that sentence the way I sniped it is a little ambiguous. I didn't want to plagiarize AngryBeavs totally and just repost the whole thing, but I wanted to talk about the article here (because if you haven't waded into the comments over there... don't). Here is the whole paragraph: I took that to mean that the 12 year old girl was happy and thriving.... before the Moran article. IOW, giving credit to Luke and his parents decision to plead guilty and not drag her through a courtroom experience, as in see it worked, she was happy and thriving. Again... I assume Luke did something awful to a young girl, and he has paid dearly for it. I just think Danny Moran did too and he is getting awards for it...
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 14, 2018 14:26:46 GMT -8
Was she re-traumatized? The article seems to speculate that could happen, and then say “by all accounts, she is happy and thriving in her father’s care.” In the SI story, I believe the author said something about the girl happy and smiling while shooting hoops in the driveway. So aside from this anonymous family friend saying someone asked her about it at school, what evidence do we have that the girl was negatively affected at all by the story? Not anonymous she gave a byline: KRISTINE ERICKSON Although I guess that could be fake? Maybe you don't remeber being a middle school girl, but my middle school girls read something into everything, every sideway glance (even when they were not sideways), nit picked and wondered about ad nauseam, etc. The fact that you can even wonder if it was OK for a 12 year old to be asked about being touched "inside and out" by her uncle at school by her classmates, and her just being okie dokie, just another lunch room convo, this is fun!... speaks volumes. My wife is a middle school teacher. Middle schoolers are monsters...
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