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Post by chinmusic on Jun 6, 2018 22:40:11 GMT -8
Dukart, the two-sport QB/INF from Lake Oswego has some things to sort out.
Several years ago, he committed to play baseball at ASU. Pat Casey offered and he flipped to the Beavs. Then Gary Anderson offered him a ride in football to play QB. Set his plan to concentrate on FB only his first year at OSU then play both FB and BB.
Today the Boston Red Sox drafted him in the 36th round and may be offering some money.
Same plan? New plan? Important choices to make for an 18 year old.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2018 7:38:41 GMT -8
Dukart, the two-sport QB/INF from Lake Oswego has some things to sort out. Several years ago, he committed to play baseball at ASU. Pat Casey offered and he flipped to the Beavs. Then Gary Anderson offered him a ride in football to play QB. Set his plan to concentrate on FB only his first year at OSU then play both FB and BB. Today the Boston Red Sox drafted him in the 36th round and may be offering some money. Same plan? New plan? Important choices to make for an 18 year old. It is much easier to go over to baseball later (especially since he can play college ball first and that wont start for him until 2019) than go back to football from a stint in the minors. The decision isn't whether to play baseball or football it's really if he wants to go to college at all. Money probably isn't a factor in this particular case. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 7, 2018 7:49:01 GMT -8
Dukart, the two-sport QB/INF from Lake Oswego has some things to sort out. Several years ago, he committed to play baseball at ASU. Pat Casey offered and he flipped to the Beavs. Then Gary Anderson offered him a ride in football to play QB. Set his plan to concentrate on FB only his first year at OSU then play both FB and BB. Today the Boston Red Sox drafted him in the 36th round and may be offering some money. Same plan? New plan? Important choices to make for an 18 year old. I am not going to look it up, but the slot value of the 36th round is nothing. It is no where near enough money to even possibly entertain for a second turning down a full ride scholarship. |
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Post by joecool on Jun 7, 2018 7:54:42 GMT -8
Dukart, the two-sport QB/INF from Lake Oswego has some things to sort out. Several years ago, he committed to play baseball at ASU. Pat Casey offered and he flipped to the Beavs. Then Gary Anderson offered him a ride in football to play QB. Set his plan to concentrate on FB only his first year at OSU then play both FB and BB. Today the Boston Red Sox drafted him in the 36th round and may be offering some money. Same plan? New plan? Important choices to make for an 18 year old. I am not going to look it up, but the slot value of the 36th round is nothing. It is no where near enough money to even possibly entertain for a second turning down a full ride scholarship. Of course the Red Sox could offer more than the slot value and also provide money for college too. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 7, 2018 8:17:04 GMT -8
Dukart, the two-sport QB/INF from Lake Oswego has some things to sort out. Several years ago, he committed to play baseball at ASU. Pat Casey offered and he flipped to the Beavs. Then Gary Anderson offered him a ride in football to play QB. Set his plan to concentrate on FB only his first year at OSU then play both FB and BB. Today the Boston Red Sox drafted him in the 36th round and may be offering some money. Same plan? New plan? Important choices to make for an 18 year old. I am not going to look it up, but the slot value of the 36th round is nothing. It is no where near enough money to even possibly entertain for a second turning down a full ride scholarship. If i recall correctly, picks after the 10th rd don't have a slot value and anything after the 10th just counts against the teams overall bonus pool if the bonus is in excess of something like $100K or $150K. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 7, 2018 8:21:21 GMT -8
I am not going to look it up, but the slot value of the 36th round is nothing. It is no where near enough money to even possibly entertain for a second turning down a full ride scholarship. Of course the Red Sox could offer more than the slot value and also provide money for college too. Sure... but it is not like they are going to dangle $100K or more in front of a 36th round pick because they really like him... If they like him that much, they'd of taken him in the 10th or so. |
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Post by joecool on Jun 7, 2018 8:54:35 GMT -8
Of course the Red Sox could offer more than the slot value and also provide money for college too. Sure... but it is not like they are going to dangle $100K or more in front of a 36th round pick because they really like him... If they like him that much, they'd of taken him in the 10th or so.
Why wouldn't they? Regardless of where they draft someone, they like them. Then it is all a negotiation. If they feel he is worth that much, then they will offer it to him.
There is so much more to the MLB draft than the other sports. Signability plays a huge role, everyone but the 4 year seniors have options and leverage.
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Post by kersting13 on Jun 7, 2018 9:41:20 GMT -8
The slot value in the 11-40th round is $125,000.
If you give a bigger bonus than $125K, it counts against your bonus pool from the first 10 rounds. You can also go 5% over your total bonus pool without much penalty.
If a team has saved $$ from its bonus pool from the first 10 rounds, they CAN offer kids in the 11-40 range a larger signing bonus. It all depends on how much they have, and which of the targets in 11-40 they want to try to get if they happen to have money available.
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Post by mauibeav on Jun 7, 2018 9:48:44 GMT -8
I doubt he's signing and will be on campus this fall. If they even thought he was signable they would have gone after him in an earlier round. I'm sure they called him and asked about his desire to go pro....He and his family probably said low, so they drafted him late. Will ask him again but not put much effort into it. Fully expect Dukart to a Beav!
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 7, 2018 9:55:42 GMT -8
The slot value in the 11-40th round is $125,000. If you give a bigger bonus than $125K, it counts against your bonus pool from the first 10 rounds. You can also go 5% over your total bonus pool without much penalty. If a team has saved $$ from its bonus pool from the first 10 rounds, they CAN offer kids in the 11-40 range a larger signing bonus. It all depends on how much they have, and which of the targets in 11-40 they want to try to get if they happen to have money available. And, why Srs in college "used" heavily in rounds 5,6-10. Teams can sign them for $1-10k as they have no leverage, saving hundreds of thousands per Sr picked. The penalties stretch from... not signing a kid from rounds 1-10 gets that slot $ subtracted from a team's pool amt (pretty sure that's right) For going over a pool allotment that each had set prior to the draft (I think these are still correct): Teams that exceed pool $ by 0<$<5% pay a 75% tax on the amount of the over of the total pool amt. Teams that exceed its pool by 5%<$<10% must pay a 75% tax on the amount of the overage PLUS loses a first round draft pick the next draft. Teams that exceed pool $ by 10%<$<15% pay a 100% tax on the amount of the pool overage PLUS loses a first round draft AND loses a second round draft pick the next year. Teams that exceed its pool $ equal ir over 15% pay a 100% tax on the amount PLUS lose a first round draft pick in each of the next TWO drafts. Lots of stuff goes into it... |
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Post by kersting13 on Jun 7, 2018 14:03:10 GMT -8
The slot value in the 11-40th round is $125,000. If you give a bigger bonus than $125K, it counts against your bonus pool from the first 10 rounds. You can also go 5% over your total bonus pool without much penalty. If a team has saved $$ from its bonus pool from the first 10 rounds, they CAN offer kids in the 11-40 range a larger signing bonus. It all depends on how much they have, and which of the targets in 11-40 they want to try to get if they happen to have money available. And, why Srs in college "used" heavily in rounds 5,6-10. Teams can sign them for $1-10k as they have no leverage, saving hundreds of thousands per Sr picked. The penalties stretch from... not signing a kid from rounds 1-10 gets that slot $ subtracted from a team's pool amt (pretty sure that's right) For going over a pool allotment that each had set prior to the draft (I think these are still correct): Teams that exceed pool $ by 0<$<5% pay a 75% tax on the amount of the over of the total pool amt. Teams that exceed its pool by 5%<$<10% must pay a 75% tax on the amount of the overage PLUS loses a first round draft pick the next draft. Teams that exceed pool $ by 10%<$<15% pay a 100% tax on the amount of the pool overage PLUS loses a first round draft AND loses a second round draft pick the next year. Teams that exceed its pool $ equal ir over 15% pay a 100% tax on the amount PLUS lose a first round draft pick in each of the next TWO drafts. Lots of stuff goes into it... All correct - and exactly zero teams have ever gone more than 5% over the pool - no one wants to lose a future draft pick. |
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