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Post by nforkbeav on Jun 4, 2018 19:23:39 GMT -8
After reading this article I gotta say there's a lot to like about the gophers, a little old school Beaver'esque.. I think this might be one heck of a series.
This part is rather funny:
"College baseball is dominated by southern schools for obvious reasons. If you don’t classify Oregon State as a northern school, Ohio State was the last northern team to win the College World Series, in 1966."
Do they not realize our entire state is further north than Ohio? Or that Corvallis and Minneapolis both sit between the 44th and 45th parallel? Maybe I'm completely missing the mark reading that comment, and "northern" has much more to do with history than geography to a lot of "easterners".
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Post by beaverboilermaker on Jun 4, 2018 20:05:12 GMT -8
Do they not realize our entire state is further north than Ohio? Or that Corvallis and Minneapolis both sit between the 44th and 45th parallel? Maybe I'm completely missing the mark reading that comment, and "northern" has much more to do with history than geography to a lot of "easterners".
I was just going to reply the same thing until your edit. If the writer wanted to give a little credit where it is due, he could point to Pat Casey and his OSU teams paving the way for northern college baseball credibility. At minimum, he should point out that the matchup ensures at least 1 true northern school is now guaranteed to be in the 2018 CWS. |
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Post by seastape on Jun 4, 2018 21:35:29 GMT -8
After reading this article I gotta say there's a lot to like about the gophers, a little old school Beaver'esque.. I think this might be one heck of a series.
This part is rather funny:
"College baseball is dominated by southern schools for obvious reasons. If you don’t classify Oregon State as a northern school, Ohio State was the last northern team to win the College World Series, in 1966."
Do they not realize our entire state is further north than Ohio? Or that Corvallis and Minneapolis both sit between the 44th and 45th parallel? Maybe I'm completely missing the mark reading that comment, and "northern" has much more to do with history than geography to a lot of "easterners".
It may be tough for Minnesotans to grasp that Corvallis is on nearly the same latitude as Minneapolis when a comparison of the winters between the two areas are so starkly different. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that a majority of even educated northern-Midwesterners would express at least mild surprise in discovering that fact. |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Jun 4, 2018 21:48:57 GMT -8
It's akin to the Toronto Raptors tagline of 'We The North' - when, in fact, Portland is the northernmost NBA city.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 6:06:10 GMT -8
It's akin to the Toronto Raptors tagline of 'We The North' - when, in fact, Portland is the northernmost NBA city. last season at Reser it went from a sunny afternoon to pacific northwest soaker and the minnesota fans in front of us started shivering and then up and left. The action on the field was a debacle for us but at least there was that. |
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Post by caladin on Jun 5, 2018 7:50:20 GMT -8
I think the identification is not in terms of geography but in terms of climate. When those back east think of North they think of snowy cold winters. This is something you can even associate with Ohio and western Pennsylvania. It is not something you can associate with the Western Pacific NW. Only WSU has a claim to that type of weather.
For baseball the difference between our weather and that in Minnesota and Ohio is measurable. It may be somewhat cold and rainy but you can still play. Not possible when it is around 10 degrees and 3-4 inches of snow on the ground. From their perspective, they probably do not think of us as a northern team. They have a point.
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Post by bennyskid on Jun 5, 2018 8:37:03 GMT -8
The definition of a "northern school" is simple: Do you spend the first quarter of the season playing tournaments that require a flight to get to?
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Post by rainmanrich on Jun 5, 2018 9:28:22 GMT -8
I think the Author suggested that Oregon State might be perceived as a Northwestern team, not so much as a Northern team. Semantics really. Question: If you live in the Northwest are you part Northern and part Western or all Northwestern? If you answered the latter than you can see the angle the author was coming from.
The truth be told, the lower 48 consists of The West, The Midwest, The South, and the Northeast. There is no "North".
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Post by mbabeav on Jun 5, 2018 9:55:45 GMT -8
I think the Author suggested that Oregon State might be perceived as a Northwestern team, not so much as a Northern team. Semantics really. Question: If you live in the Northwest are you part Northern and part Western or all Northwestern? If you answered the latter than you can see the angle the author was coming from. The truth be told, the lower 48 consists of The West, The Midwest, The South, and the Northeast. There is no "North". NW is very appropriate, latitude be dammed - we have the influence of the warmer Pacific to keep most really cold air at bay. Sorta like England, which is much farther north than we are, but has the Gulf stream and Atlantic to moderate their weather. They understood latitude and longitude back when the first settlements in New England were coming over, but they had no realization of the cold continental climate - they thought that since they were 10+ degrees farther south than the English ports, it should be even milder - and well, they suffered a 70% plus casualty rate those first winters. On a weather weenie side note, Oregon holds the largest state temp spread in the lower 48 - high record something like 115, low -54 - depends on which part of the state you live  |
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Post by seastape on Jun 5, 2018 11:54:04 GMT -8
On a weather weenie side note, Oregon holds the largest state temp spread in the lower 48 - high record something like 115, low -54 - depends on which part of the state you live Now that is the interesting fact of the day...much obliged!
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Post by giantkillers83 on Jun 5, 2018 17:48:32 GMT -8
They just consider us part of the SEC.....
... and that, we rule.....
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Post by jefframp on Jun 6, 2018 8:06:40 GMT -8
Then why is Northwestern University in Illinois? And Northwestern State in Louisiana? Some things just do not make sense!  |
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Post by kersting13 on Jun 6, 2018 9:03:52 GMT -8
Then why is Northwestern University in Illinois? And Northwestern State in Louisiana? Some things just do not make sense! We drive on a parkway, and park on a driveway. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 6, 2018 12:53:24 GMT -8
Then why is Northwestern University in Illinois? And Northwestern State in Louisiana? Some things just do not make sense! This appears to be somewhat glib; however: Northwestern University was named after the Northwest Territory. When Northwestern was founded in Chicago, Chicago was 12 years old. The school moved to Ridgeville in 1853. Ridgeville was renamed Evanston in honor of John Evans, one of the Northwestern founders. It should be remembered that the Big Ten's original name was the Western Conference. It was not renamed the Big Nine (back when there were actually nine teams) until 1899. Northwestern State University of Louisiana is meant to convey that it is in the northwestern part of Louisiana. However, there are at least four universities that are further north and west in the state. |
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Post by bennysdentist on Jun 6, 2018 17:53:11 GMT -8
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