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Post by bigbang on Jun 3, 2018 17:26:16 GMT -8
You can tell the future or something? If I got Arkansas wrong I apologize. I didn't see the game. Still I'll pull for the Hogs to win out. Geaux Tigers! Geaux SEC! Arkansas won their first two games putting them in the drivers seat so I was correct!
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Post by trackdemon on Jun 3, 2018 18:34:58 GMT -8
I've enjoyed watching them, but really the question is why is Northwestern St in the tournament and not Cal or one of the Arizona schools? Automatic bid. Won our conference tournament.
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Post by civiltiger on Jun 3, 2018 18:57:53 GMT -8
Isn’t that counter intuitive to what you trying to point out here? How so? You are trying to show a bias to the east coast, but you take teams that are grouped in with east coast teams and group them with west coast teams. Since Arkansas and A&M are in the SEC, the best baseball conference in the country.
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Post by civiltiger on Jun 3, 2018 19:57:23 GMT -8
So you are counting Texas A&M and arkansas’s wins in the west coast teams? Yes. Also LSU's win, and loss. Just updated to include Washington's win...first team through to a Super. A #3 seed and a 'bubble' team for getting into the 64. You posted the records of teams east of the Mississippi and teams west of the Mississippi. So you brought up Arkansas and A&M. And you you for some reason included LSU with the west coast teams as well.
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Post by bigbang on Jun 3, 2018 20:05:00 GMT -8
You are trying to show a bias to the east coast, but you take teams that are grouped in with east coast teams and group them with west coast teams. Since Arkansas and A&M are in the SEC, the best baseball conference in the country. What a dumb post. First off, that was someone else who brought up Arkansas and A&M. Second, the Pac12 continues to win championships even in the modern era where RPI overwhelmingly favors eastern (southeast and northeast) teams as far as at-large bids to the tournament go. In college baseball there isn't enough interregional play between east and west to make RPI a meaningful metric. Btw,, Most championships by conference: Pac12: 17, SEC: 11. Sorry but it's more like 28 PAC to 12 SEC
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 3, 2018 21:09:07 GMT -8
Can't count ASU and Arizona's titles before 1976, as they were not members of the conference.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 3, 2018 21:15:33 GMT -8
What a dumb post. First off, that was someone else who brought up Arkansas and A&M. Second, the Pac12 continues to win championships even in the modern era where RPI overwhelmingly favors eastern (southeast and northeast) teams as far as at-large bids to the tournament go. In college baseball there isn't enough interregional play between east and west to make RPI a meaningful metric. Btw,, Most championships by conference: Pac12: 17, SEC: 11. Sorry but it's more like 28 PAC to 12 SEC LSU has six, which is impressive, but the Tigers carry the conference. The SEC has only really been a factor since Bush I was inaugurated. Pac-12/SEC National Titles: Southern California 12 Louisiana State 6 Arizona State 5 Arizona 4 California 2 Oregon State 2 South Carolina 2 Stanford 2 Florida 1 Georgia 1 Missouri 1 UCLA 1 Vanderbilt 1
Of course, if we look at 2006 to present: Pac-12/SEC National Titles: Oregon State 2 South Carolina 2 Arizona 1 Florida 1 Louisiana State 1 UCLA 1 Vanderbilt 1
Pac-12/SEC Final Four Finishes 2006 to present: Oregon State 4 Florida 3 South Carolina 3 Vanderbilt 3 Arizona 2 Arkansas 2 Louisiana State 2 UCLA 2 Arizona State 1 Georgia 1 Mississippi 1 Mississippi State 1 Stanford 1
In the end, who gives a rat's behind? Oregon State is clearly the crop of both the Pac-12 and the SEC over the past 13 seasons.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 3, 2018 21:16:09 GMT -8
Can't count ASU and Arizona's titles before 1976, as they were not members of the conference. You can. Just like you can count Missouri's title..............singular.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jun 4, 2018 7:34:22 GMT -8
Can't count ASU and Arizona's titles before 1976, as they were not members of the conference. You can. Just like you can count Missouri's title..............singular. You can if you want, but you're wrong. A title won by ASU or Arizona when they were members of the WAC, or by Mizzou when it was a member of the Big Eight, is not a championship won by a Pac-12 or SEC team. If you want to say national titles won by current Pac-12/SEC teams, fine. But Reggie Jackson never played in the Pac-8, Pac-10 or Pac-12 and that's why he didn't make the conference's all-time team, even though he played at ASU.
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 4, 2018 8:00:28 GMT -8
This whole thread is a dumpster fire.
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