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Post by chinmusic on May 26, 2018 9:29:08 GMT -8
The Texas Rangers have made their draft position on Luke Heimlich clear – they won’t. Doesn’t it seem a little unusual that a team would announce publicly who they will and will not select less than two weeks prior to the draft?
It seems a little odd to me that they wouldn't just keep their board confidential and confined to their draft room and club personnel. To what purpose would you single out one prospect from the 1,200 + players that will be drafted and point him out publicly as someone you won’t draft.
Unless of course, you wish to capitalize on an opportunity to make some sort of political statement that you think gains you favor with your fan base. There’s a name for that, it’s called “Grandstanding.”
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Post by joecool on May 26, 2018 10:46:29 GMT -8
The Texas Rangers have made their draft position on Luke Heimlich clear – they won’t. Doesn’t it seem a little unusual that a team would announce publicly who they will and will not select less than two weeks prior to the draft? It seems a little odd to me that they wouldn't just keep their board confidential and confined to their draft room and club personnel. To what purpose would you single out one prospect from the 1,200 + players that will be drafted and point him out publicly as someone you won’t draft. Unless of course, you wish to capitalize on an opportunity to make some sort of political statement that you think gains you favor with your fan base. There’s a name for that, it’s called “Grandstanding.” Honestly...who cares? |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 11:59:59 GMT -8
The Texas Rangers have made their draft position on Luke Heimlich clear – they won’t. Doesn’t it seem a little unusual that a team would announce publicly who they will and will not select less than two weeks prior to the draft? It seems a little odd to me that they wouldn't just keep their board confidential and confined to their draft room and club personnel. To what purpose would you single out one prospect from the 1,200 + players that will be drafted and point him out publicly as someone you won’t draft. Unless of course, you wish to capitalize on an opportunity to make some sort of political statement that you think gains you favor with your fan base. There’s a name for that, it’s called “Grandstanding.” Honestly...who cares? it seems Luke doesn't care either. He just wants to dominate any hitter he faces. All this extraneous stuff could have froze him up but the opposite has happened. He is tough as nails now, anyone who actually checks him out sees that his teammates and coaches respect him for what kind of a person he is now. And that's all that matters anyway. |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 26, 2018 13:03:06 GMT -8
it seems Luke doesn't care either. He just wants to dominate any hitter he faces. All this extraneous stuff could have froze him up but the opposite has happened. He is tough as nails now, anyone who actually checks him out sees that his teammates and coaches respect him for what kind of a person he is now. And that's all that matters anyway. And, like the Rangers have any room to talk with regards to morality. They've had some pretty iffy people on their payroll and have tried to skirt their way out of injuries/fan issues. Trying to create some pub while Stros take over as Texas's team. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2018 13:13:57 GMT -8
it seems Luke doesn't care either. He just wants to dominate any hitter he faces. All this extraneous stuff could have froze him up but the opposite has happened. He is tough as nails now, anyone who actually checks him out sees that his teammates and coaches respect him for what kind of a person he is now. And that's all that matters anyway. And, like the Rangers have any room to talk with regards to morality. They've had some pretty iffy people I their payroll and have tried to skirt their way out of injuries/fan issues. Trying to create some pub while Stros take over as Texas's team. not to mention their egregious exploitation of political payoffs to bend taxpayers over to fund their new super stadium. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 26, 2018 13:32:30 GMT -8
Why? Because it’s freakin’ TEXAS....not as in “Rangers”, but rather as in “State of...”
Home of Ted Cruz, Dan Patrick (Not the sports guy, but the Lieutenant Governor that blamed recent school shootings on abortion), and endless debates about who can use what bathroom.
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Post by chinmusic on May 27, 2018 12:40:09 GMT -8
Seriously, who cares?
“Who cares?” didn’t answer the question. You offered an opinion in response to the Rangers statement. The question was, why would they do that? Frankly, I care as do other some other Beaver fans I visit with. I think Luke does care and I think the coaches and players care. The Rangers publicly threw Luke under the bus.
There isn’t one MLB franchise that doesn’t think Luke Heimlich is an outstanding professional prospect – if not the best, certainly one of the top 2 or 3 pitchers in college baseball. In essence they said Luke’s makeup (character) isn’t acceptable to us and we are assuring our fans, we won’t draft him. That’s a hell of a statement to put out there and one in my judgement, was neither necessary or classy.
The Ranger’s statement might be the tip of the iceberg. Hypothetically, if all 30 clubs were of the same mind set as the Rangers, Luke would go undrafted again. If even 10 clubs think that way, it could impact his draft position and slot $$$. That should be enough to make us all care. There is no other way to spin it. It’s bad publicity.
The story has been chronicled by the print media (Moran, Canzano, Eggers) the NYT and SI articles and the TV media (Local and ESPN). There’s no need to debate opinions, or quality of journalism here but Beaver fans are far more informed on Luke the person and the incident than the people reading the Ranger’s statement. The perception will be different.
And as far as Luke being strong, doing the best he can given the circumstances, and handling the noise surrounding him, I certainly agree. However with reference to Luke just going out and pitching hard, dominating and ignoring it all? Luke does not control the draft or how he is valued in the draft. Some clubs don’t care if he fans 27 guys in every game from now until his season is complete – they are not drafting him. For them, his performance is irrelevant. They are not going to change their minds.
Luke is human. Luke has emotions. Luke cares.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 27, 2018 12:53:22 GMT -8
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bit of overreaction?
"Who cares?" Could simply have meant, "who cares what the Rangers think, say, or do"...
Being a OSU board its the way I interpreted it and certainly not as a comment on not caring about Luke or what is important to him.
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Post by beavaristotle on May 27, 2018 13:47:20 GMT -8
they only have 40 picks, there are over 1150 players they won't draft that some other team will. I think they are just grandstanding. more importantly to them should be who they are going to draft. there are about 150,000 draft eligible players in America, hope they don't plan on listing everyone they are not going to draft.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 27, 2018 14:44:15 GMT -8
Power, and left-handed pitching, are two of the most-desired commodities in MLB. IMHO, Luke will get drafted and get his shot.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 22:30:38 GMT -8
I mean the guy did plead guilty to molesting a six year old... you can't blame a mlb team for not wanting to deal with that publicity.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 27, 2018 22:37:37 GMT -8
I mean the guy did plead guilty to molesting a six year old... you can't blame a mlb team for not wanting to deal with that publicity. We'll not try to educate you on the situation. As there are numerous factual and legally correct posts for you to read IF those aspects were actually important to you. But, of course your post shows that neither of those (or being educated) seem to be. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 22:44:47 GMT -8
I mean the guy did plead guilty to molesting a six year old... you can't blame a mlb team for not wanting to deal with that publicity. We'll not try to educate you on the situation. As there are numerous factual and legally correct posts for you to read IF those aspects were actually important to you. But, of course your post shows that neither of those (or being educated) seem to be. Yeah there may be more to the story but anyway you look at it he still plead guilty. I think someone will take the risk and draft him but you cant blame a team for taking him off their draft boards. |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 27, 2018 22:54:01 GMT -8
We'll not try to educate you on the situation. As there are numerous factual and legally correct posts for you to read IF those aspects were actually important to you. But, of course your post shows that neither of those (or being educated) seem to be. Yeah there may be more to the story but anyway you look at it he still plead guilty. I think someone will take the risk and draft him but you cant blame a team for taking him off their draft boards. Again... educate yourself... in no way you look at it did he "plead guilty". |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2018 23:04:31 GMT -8
Yeah there may be more to the story but anyway you look at it he still plead guilty. I think someone will take the risk and draft him but you cant blame a team for taking him off their draft boards. Again... educate yourself... in no way you look at it did he "plead guilty". Again... he still plead guilty. I'm not trying to argue here man, I just think it's weird that everyone is so appalled the Rangers would do that. Cant expect every team is willing to deal with that situation. |
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