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Post by skyrider on May 18, 2018 11:27:07 GMT -8
The "experts" is what I call the many very knowledgeable members of this forum.
From my perspective as an avid fan who loves watching the Beavers, it appears that this year's team as great as it is, would appear to face a difficult task to reach the college world series.
My perception is that the Beavers lack both a decent (even average) third day starter.
Also that their bullpen is very inconsistent and perhaps even more concerning is their lack of of a "shut the door-lights out" closer.
Both of these flaws seem to leave a lot of possibility for being upset in the NCAA tournament.
I hope I am wrong and will hear some wise words to tell me so!
Thanks to all for your feedback!
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Post by baseba1111 on May 18, 2018 12:09:36 GMT -8
The "experts" is what I call the many very knowledgeable members of this forum. From my perspective as an avid fan who loves watching the Beavers, it appears that this year's team as great as it is, would appear to face a difficult task to reach the college world series. My perception is that the Beavers lack both a decent (even average) third day starter. Also that their bullpen is very inconsistent and perhaps even more concerning is their lack of of a "shut the door-lights out" closer. Both of these flaws seem to leave a lot of possibility for being upset in the NCAA tournament. I hope I am wrong and will hear some wise words to tell me so! Thanks to all for your feedback! The record looks good, but your pitching comments are very true and ring even more true come the postseason. The regional will depend on who is sent out to our place. I'd be worried if it was a strong SOS/RPI team as the #2. In fact, depending on the #4 seed some might be tempted to pitch Bryce in Game 1. I do not believe in that strategy as you really need to win Game 1 and not take the chance. Again, hosting a Super is a great advantage as far as home field/fans, and sleeping in their own beds... but, facing a seeded team will be difficult with this staff. Luke has to be a winner for sure... then Bryce has to come thru as he has recently. I have zero faith in the BP. Even Jake has looked very shaky in key spots. Hoping the Super has an 'upset' winner traveling to OSU! The road has been the biggest issue... we could not sweep WSU, lost series at Utah and Zona. If we can't win a series at SC (a sweep would actually be a sign of real growth) this weekend, I do not think Omaha is in the cards. We need to show some growth in this and the UCLA series. Unfortunately the pitching staff has not only not done that, but seems to have regressed in many regards. But, baseball and 18-22 y/o's are funny things... ya never know. |
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Post by lotrader on May 18, 2018 12:50:39 GMT -8
A freshman as our Game 3 starter is a challenge period. OSU has two (2) weekend series to play, and, we may feel differently (better or worse) when the USC and UCLA series have concluded. In previous years OSU has had the luxury of more seasoned Game 3 starters. I think we have enough in the BP, should we quality games from 2 of the 3 starters. On the offensive side of the team, we have never had the hitting prowess top to bottom that we have this season. Perhaps that will make up for some of the recent pitching questions?
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Post by mbabeav on May 18, 2018 14:22:08 GMT -8
The axiom "good pitching beats good hitting" is never more true than when you hit the playoffs where most of the teams can hit. While we can get in, and win the slugfest, it is much easier to win when you have stability in the bullpen, especially if you have to go Johnny Allstaff. If your staff is thin, then it is also critical that you avoid a loser's bracket. Losing a series in the regular season is a weekend, in the playoffs, it is the end.
I still like our chances given the hitting we have, but these last regular season series we are probably going to see the coaches focus on a block of the bullpen and end any more "testing". I don't want to have to see another 300 pitch Nickerson style effort in the World Series.
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Post by badwack on May 18, 2018 15:01:21 GMT -8
The writing is on the Wall. We are struggling to find anyone that can Throw Strikes at #3. You can say the same about the BP. What we can't predict it the Luck and the ability of one of young one to find lightening in a Bottle and become impossible to hit. It could happen, it could happen....... Fingers crossed that during the rest of the season someone finds the Bottle, If not I will...! Go Beav's!
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 18, 2018 15:20:17 GMT -8
The "experts" is what I call the many very knowledgeable members of this forum. From my perspective as an avid fan who loves watching the Beavers, it appears that this year's team as great as it is, would appear to face a difficult task to reach the college world series. My perception is that the Beavers lack both a decent (even average) third day starter. Also that their bullpen is very inconsistent and perhaps even more concerning is their lack of of a "shut the door-lights out" closer. Both of these flaws seem to leave a lot of possibility for being upset in the NCAA tournament. I hope I am wrong and will hear some wise words to tell me so! Thanks to all for your feedback! The record looks good, but your pitching comments are very true and ring even more true come the postseason. The regional will depend on who is sent out to our place. I'd be worried if it was a strong SOS/RPI team as the #2. In fact, depending on the #4 seed some might be tempted to pitch Bryce in Game 1. I do not believe in that strategy as you really need to win Game 1 and not take the chance. Again, hosting a Super is a great advantage as far as home field/fans, and sleeping in their own beds... but, facing a seeded team will be difficult with this staff. Luke has to be a winner for sure... then Bryce has to come thru as he has recently. I have zero faith in the BP. Even Jake has looked very shaky in key spots. Hoping the Super has an 'upset' winner traveling to OSU! The road has been the biggest issue... we could not sweep WSU, lost series at Utah and Zona. If we can't win a series at SC (a sweep would actually be a sign of real growth) this weekend, I do not think Omaha is in the cards. We need to show some growth in this and the UCLA series. Unfortunately the pitching staff has not only not done that, but seems to have regressed in many regards. But, baseball and 18-22 y/o's are funny things... ya never know. Oregon State needs to win both of the first two games in the Corvallis Regional. I like throwing the ace first, because it gives you the option to bring him back in an elimination game. However, Oregon State pitched Thompson over Heimlich last year and it worked. I trust Casey and Yeskie to trot out the right starter against the four seed. If the Beavers win both of the first two games, Oregon State will get two shots to get game #3 and advance to a Super Regional. At the Super Regional, having a third starter can be largely irrelevant, especially if the two best starters take care of business. At the College World Series, having a third starter can also be largely irrelevant. If you win the first two games, your game 1 starter can come back to pitch game 3. And your game 2 starter can come back to pitch game 4, if necessary. If you win the first three games, both of your best pitchers should pitch in the Championship Series, unless you sweep that to. Now, if Oregon State falls into the losers' bracket, things can get really dicey really fast. The big issue that I see is the bullpen. Tournaments really stress them, especially in the College World Series. Oregon State has looked good on the road other than the Salt Lake and Tucson trips. And the fact that the Beavers scheduled the two Nevada games between them did no one any favors. Still, hopefully, Oregon State can win the next two series and (all-but) clinch a National Seed. Omaha is Oregon State's home away from home. Absent a match-up against LSU. Of course, the Tigers are terrible this year, so that is unlikely at this point. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 18, 2018 15:25:30 GMT -8
The axiom "good pitching beats good hitting" is never more true than when you hit the playoffs where most of the teams can hit. While we can get in, and win the slugfest, it is much easier to win when you have stability in the bullpen, especially if you have to go Johnny Allstaff. If your staff is thin, then it is also critical that you avoid a loser's bracket. Losing a series in the regular season is a weekend, in the playoffs, it is the end. I still like our chances given the hitting we have, but these last regular season series we are probably going to see the coaches focus on a block of the bullpen and end any more "testing". I don't want to have to see another 300 pitch Nickerson style effort in the World Series. With the changes to spread out the games in the College World Series between 2007 and 2013, you are unlikely to see another Jonah Nickerson-esque effort. It is no longer necessary. |
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Post by giantkillers83 on May 18, 2018 17:04:04 GMT -8
Nick doesn’t pitch... but his return cannot be underestimated....
we’ll be fine.
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Post by blueheron on May 19, 2018 7:48:12 GMT -8
We will make Omaha.
Cupcakes will visit Corvallis. Start Fehmel in Game 1, then Luke in Game 2 vs the #2 seed. Then we get two chances at the #2 seed again. Beavers win the regional.
Heimlich and Fehmel get two wins in the Super and off to Omaha we go!
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Post by grackle on May 19, 2018 9:48:44 GMT -8
The "experts" is what I call the many very knowledgeable members of this forum. From my perspective as an avid fan who loves watching the Beavers, it appears that this year's team as great as it is, would appear to face a difficult task to reach the college world series. My perception is that the Beavers lack both a decent (even average) third day starter. Also that their bullpen is very inconsistent and perhaps even more concerning is their lack of of a "shut the door-lights out" closer. Both of these flaws seem to leave a lot of possibility for being upset in the NCAA tournament. I hope I am wrong and will hear some wise words to tell me so! Thanks to all for your feedback! You don't have to be perfect to win in college baseball (or any other level of BB), just be the better team. Can anyone in this forum name ANY other team in country that has better combined pitching + hitting than the Beavs?? Stanford was supposed to be that team....(supposedly) out of this world pitching and great hitting. Are you kidding me? The series was like men (the Beavs) against boys. Stanford was oh-so-lucky to escape Corvallis with what amounted to a genuinely gifted win in game #3 after being largely run off the field in the first two games. Florida?? Have you watched them the last two days? That's a team that's tanking at exactly the wrong time of year. Currently, they're no better than Stanford and maybe even not as good. IMO, right now, the Beavs are the best all-around team in the country. I like us in any series against anyone else. So, are we guaranteed champions? Of course not -- a badly timed single loss in the post-season can be crippling. But please, tell me, what other team you'd pick today to beat the Beavs in a post-season series face-off? |
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on May 19, 2018 10:26:12 GMT -8
The "experts" is what I call the many very knowledgeable members of this forum. From my perspective as an avid fan who loves watching the Beavers, it appears that this year's team as great as it is, would appear to face a difficult task to reach the college world series. My perception is that the Beavers lack both a decent (even average) third day starter. Also that their bullpen is very inconsistent and perhaps even more concerning is their lack of of a "shut the door-lights out" closer. Both of these flaws seem to leave a lot of possibility for being upset in the NCAA tournament. I hope I am wrong and will hear some wise words to tell me so! Thanks to all for your feedback! You don't have to be perfect to win in college baseball (or any other level of BB), just be the better team. Can anyone in this forum name ANY other team in country that has better combined pitching + hitting than the Beavs?? Stanford was supposed to be that team....(supposedly) out of this world pitching and great hitting. Are you kidding me? The series was like men (the Beavs) against boys. Stanford was oh-so-lucky to escape Corvallis with what amounted to a genuinely gifted win in game #3 after being largely run off the field in the first two games. Florida?? Have you watched them the last two days? That's a team that's tanking at exactly the wrong time of year. Currently, they're no better than Stanford and maybe even not as good. IMO, right now, the Beavs are the best all-around team in the country. I like us in any series against anyone else. So, are we guaranteed champions? Of course not -- a badly timed single loss in the post-season can be crippling. But please, tell me, what other team you'd pick today to beat the Beavs in a post-season series face-off? Grackle I hardly post any but I do watch the posts on this forum. Your opinion seems to chime the most of the so-called experts on this forum. There's a dozen teams that have a legitimate chance at the making the world series and the Beav's are one of them but if any of them have a bad game in the post season that whittles these dozen down pretty fast. A while back there was this tit for tat between bb1111 and some other member about who knew the most about the game.......that type of self-inflated ego has no place on this forum. Always appreciate your insight on the game. |
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Post by grackle on May 19, 2018 10:39:41 GMT -8
Ruh Roh -- Agree completely, especially about baseball prognostication! No game will make any "expert" look like a fool any quicker than our national pastime!
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Post by baseba1111 on May 19, 2018 10:47:23 GMT -8
You don't have to be perfect to win in college baseball (or any other level of BB), just be the better team. Can anyone in this forum name ANY other team in country that has better combined pitching + hitting than the Beavs?? Stanford was supposed to be that team....(supposedly) out of this world pitching and great hitting. Are you kidding me? The series was like men (the Beavs) against boys. Stanford was oh-so-lucky to escape Corvallis with what amounted to a genuinely gifted win in game #3 after being largely run off the field in the first two games. Florida?? Have you watched them the last two days? That's a team that's tanking at exactly the wrong time of year. Currently, they're no better than Stanford and maybe even not as good. IMO, right now, the Beavs are the best all-around team in the country. I like us in any series against anyone else. So, are we guaranteed champions? Of course not -- a badly timed single loss in the post-season can be crippling. But please, tell me, what other team you'd pick today to beat the Beavs in a post-season series face-off? Grackle I hardly post any but I do watch the posts on this forum. Your opinion seems to chime the most of the so-called experts on this forum. There's a dozen teams that have a legitimate chance at the making the world series and the Beav's are one of them but if any of them have a bad game in the post season that whittles these dozen down pretty fast. A while back there was this tit for tat between bb1111 and some other member about who knew the most about the game.......that type of self-inflated ego has no place on this forum. Always appreciate your insight on the game. Is that because your "self inflated ego" interprets meaning/intent to every post and thus determines what is and isn't acceptable on this or any other fan forum???  But, then again "ego" often goes unrecognized by those with too much showing! |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 11:03:16 GMT -8
Grackle I hardly post any but I do watch the posts on this forum. Your opinion seems to chime the most of the so-called experts on this forum. There's a dozen teams that have a legitimate chance at the making the world series and the Beav's are one of them but if any of them have a bad game in the post season that whittles these dozen down pretty fast. A while back there was this tit for tat between bb1111 and some other member about who knew the most about the game.......that type of self-inflated ego has no place on this forum. Always appreciate your insight on the game. Is that because your "self inflated ego" interprets meaning/intent to every post and thus determines what is and isn't acceptable on this or any other fan forum??? But, then again "ego" often goes unrecognized by those with too much showing! Can't believe you swung at that one . You need to work on your plate discipline dude. |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 19, 2018 11:37:24 GMT -8
Is that because your "self inflated ego" interprets meaning/intent to every post and thus determines what is and isn't acceptable on this or any other fan forum??? But, then again "ego" often goes unrecognized by those with too much showing! Can't believe you swung at that one . You need to work on your plate discipline dude. I was bored... game time decision!  |
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