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Post by 411500 on May 2, 2018 14:13:41 GMT -8
6'3" post player out of Kent, WA.
She has been a top prospect since her sophomore season....
Now that the Hull twins out of Spokane (Lexie & Lacie) have moved along to Stanford, Miller just might be the top prospect in Washington...
Not sure if she has any interest in OSU - anyone have any info to share on her??
In scanning over the list of Top 60, or so, prospects for 2019 there are very few players who seem likely candidates for a Beaver scholarship....
The Beavs have to sign somebody ! Right...Right now it is way too early (at least for me) to figure out who.
Anyone want to jump into the guessing game???
May 2, 2018 and I'm thinking about players who won't put on an OSU jersey until November 2019. I need a job !!🏀😎
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by beavsteve on May 2, 2018 14:59:19 GMT -8
I've wondered about her too, thinking about her as a possible PF rather than post. I found the following:
With a list of scholarship offers from schools in the Pac-12 to Ohio State, Miller is easily the school’s biggest basketball recruit, but she’s rather not get into details.
“I just feel like I’m being cocky when I talk about it,” she said, noting she likely will make her college decision after next summer’s AAU circuit.
Hopefully we are one of the Pac-12 schools that have offered. She sounds humble, so a good fit in that regard.
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Post by willtalk on May 2, 2018 16:44:42 GMT -8
With PM and AA locked in for the next four years, the odds of really good posts who project as centers, committing seems slim at least for the next couple years.,
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Post by newduke2 on May 2, 2018 17:26:23 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 2, 2018 17:40:13 GMT -8
"The Beavs have to sign somebody ! Right...Right now it is way too early (at least for me) to figure out who"
Do the women have a different recruiting calendar? I'm thinking nobody can sign until mid-November if it's the same calendar as the men.
They could almost skip a year and not suffer too badly if there were no injuries or defections.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on May 2, 2018 19:16:03 GMT -8
Signing isn't until November. A person can verbally commit any time though. An early verbal can have issues, like Katie Mayhue or be smooth like AA.
We definitely do not want to "skip a year". We finally have an equal class size, 3 freshmen, 3 sophomores, 4 juniors, and 3 seniors. This makes the turnover a bit more manageable then the 5-4-1 we just had.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 2, 2018 21:01:18 GMT -8
With PM and AA locked in for the next four years, the odds of really good posts who project as centers, committing seems slim at least for the next couple years., There is a line of reasoning that you might get better in a hurry if you are going up against world-class posts every day in practice.... Note that one could attribute (and there are articles to this effect) some of Marie Gulich's first round draft status to having to deal with Ruth Hamblin for a couple of years in practice. We also have a bit of track record with getting post players ready for the WNBA. I am not saying that will be convincing for someone who is likely good enough to start from day 1 anywhere, but there is going to be competition at every step of the way, and there are going to be other (good) posts at every other school she is looking at as well...... Go Beavers! |
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Post by willtalk on May 3, 2018 1:38:09 GMT -8
With PM and AA locked in for the next four years, the odds of really good posts who project as centers, committing seems slim at least for the next couple years., Note that one could attribute (and there are articles to this effect) some of Marie Gulich's first round draft status to having to deal with Ruth Hamblin for a couple of years in practice. We also have a bit of track record with getting post players ready for the WNBA. I am not saying that will be convincing for someone who is likely good enough to start from day 1 anywhere, but there is going to be competition at every step of the way, and there are going to be other (good) posts at every other school she is looking at as well...... Go Beavers! I have been a firm believer for years that a player gets better in practice more than they do in regular games. I have posted such multiple times with the last being in the "Who see's the floor" thread. No true post in their right mind would enter a program that had both PM and AA just one year ahead of them. AA has the potential to end up as the the top pick in the WNBA draft. Patricia Morris, if she applies herself to basketball also has the potential to play professional ball. The situation now is not like it was for Maria when she came in to back up Ruth since she was two years behind her. Any new center would be behind both AA and PM for 3 years. The odds of a center coming in and passing either is very slim. Once PM gets the basketball skills to go along with her athleticism she will be very good. While the ideal situation for a talented frosh is to come in when the experienced vet is a senior. Now I might see a player coming in when both PM and AA are Jr's but it is highly unlikely that a good. prospect wants to sit for 3 years behind two players in front of her. There are very few prospects like AA or even PM. Take PM how many athletic underrated 6'7" players are there available. Not very many. The 2019 class has no one over 6'5" rated in the top 60. The 2019 class only had AA and Prince in the top 100. |
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Post by 411500 on May 3, 2018 7:31:26 GMT -8
willtalk - Assuming your line of thinking is essentially correct, namely that a top flight post prospect would not sign with OSU because there is already so much post talent on the roster she would not get much floor time until her 3rd year, then we might see some interesting turns in how Coach recruits for the 2019 cycle.
The first thing that occurs to me is that he will be working hard to land a traditional 6'2 - 6' 3 Power Forward along the lines of Bre Brown or Kolyb Orum...That sounds like a position of need to me.
The next thing we might see is the recruiting of a lengthy (6'0, 6'1) shooting guard - along the lines of a taller Aleah Goodman.
Finally, the possibility exists that we will land a comparatively unknown prospect from Europe who currently is not highly rated, but who has a high ceiling if she receives the coaching and training OSU provides so well.
GO BEAVS !!🏀
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Post by rmancarl on May 3, 2018 9:32:03 GMT -8
I don't think we can assume another post won't join the program because AA and PM will be a year ahead of them. If we thought that way, then we probably can't expect to land a point guard either because they will be behind DS and AG for three years, or maybe no wing players or 2 guards would want to sign because they will be behind MP for a couple years, and now Jaz for the next three years....and then there is TC, who probably has a forward spot locked up for three years....so....nobody signs? I don't totally disagree with the premise willtalk brought up , but if the coaches didn't think they could land another Post, why would they even bother with the two bigs we know they are talking to? And, if you are a big, that is rated as a 5 star, would you be concerned that the Beavers signed PM who in some ratings was only a three star, or would you worry about AA, if you knew she was more of a face up player rather than a post? Yes, they may want to go where they are are sure they will get to play/start right away, or they may want to go to a big name basketball school, or they may want to go where they know the coaches have a history of developing bigs.
I have no idea who the coaches will land this year, but if transfer rules are eased, things will change a lot. A player can come in, and if the writing is on the wall that they are going to sit for 3-4 years, they can easily transfer where they are more likely to be needed.
I'm excited to see who does sign with the Beavers this year. As 411500 said, it could be anyone, from any part of the world. All I know is, SR was able to bring in players that weren't that highly ranked, and turn them in to Pac 12 champions. I'll trust his abilities to continue to find players until the team begins to falter. The drop to 3rd place this year, was not enough to concern me yet.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 3, 2018 12:13:27 GMT -8
We have been talking generalities, so this may be neither here nor there, but USA Basketball lists Cameron Brink as a Forward, not a center. I don't know enough about Cameron's HS team to know if it is a "tallest player plays center" situation or not, but I would assume USA Basketball, having pick of the litter, would put players in the best position to be successful. In that case, PM and AA (and JG, this year) could be "center by committee", and then Cameron just has to consider how she would co-exist with Taya....for 2 years time. Just want to construct a scenario where Cameron stays home.... Go Beavers! |
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Post by rmancarl on May 3, 2018 14:56:12 GMT -8
I would love to see Cameron go with the lady Beavs. I'm ok though, with any in-state girls going somewhere else as long as we can keep beating them like we did the Oregon girls that went to Tennessee.
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Post by willtalk on May 3, 2018 15:26:32 GMT -8
We have been talking generalities, so this may be neither here nor there, but USA Basketball lists Cameron Brink as a Forward, not a center.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------In that case, PM and AA (and JG, this year) could be "center by committee", and then Cameron just has to consider how she would co-exist with Taya....for 2 years time. Just want to construct a scenario where Cameron stays home....Go Beavers! Cameron Brink is a 4 at the next level. She could play the 5 in a pinch, but she really is a 4. I wouldn't see her competing with PM or AA at the center position. Having Taya, who is more a wing that a Power forward is versatile enough to play on the floor with Brink. I wouldn't think because of their skill sets that Taya would effect Cameron's choice very much. Taya, if she has designs at the next level, would actually be a better wing at as a pro. It just that the team has a glut of wings for now. Now it wouldn't be impossible for a prospective center in the 2019 class to commit, but very highly unlikely. If you follow recruiting you will see that potential playing time does have an impact. The WCBB landscape has changed over the years. More players see the college experience as a stepping stone to a pro career rather than just a means to get a degree. You don't need to be good enough for the WNBA to play professional ball. In fact the money is better overseas. While it doesn't come close to the money the top level NBA players get, if you have talent you can still make more than the average college grad at an entry level job. |
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Post by ag87 on May 4, 2018 8:12:55 GMT -8
I don't follow women's basketball, so a few questions. How tall is Cameron Brink? If you are a high schooler and the top or very near the top player in the country at your position, do you even think about playing time? If so, how can UConn ever sign someone? Regarding pay for women's players in Europe, my information is dated. But I had a friend who played on the Portland professional team (2004?) from the league that folded. She then played in Germany, Italy, UK and so on (She was an Aussie). She would get an apartment, a car and about $500 to $800/wk for a 20 week or so season. Interestingly, she is now a citizen of Malta, probably 40 years old and still plays on their national team.
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Post by willtalk on May 4, 2018 9:31:29 GMT -8
I believe Brink is listed as 6'4". In respect to transfers it appears that the number is increasing every year. One needs only to look at the Oregon teams. Slocum transferred from Maryland ( but not due to playing time ). There are several players transferring out from Oregon because of playing time. Malley a 6'2" wing/guard from Australia and 6'3" forward Campisano who was the the 14th ranked player in her class. Mallory McGwire a 6'5" frosh center who started for them last year is also transferring because she was replaced by a freshman and she foresees reduced playing time next season because of more competition from incoming players.
Uconn reputation for developing players for the next level is what draws players to them. They have had players transfer out but until just recently they have never had players transfer in. Their coach Geno also has a lot of pull with the National teams and his players usually end up playing for them. They usually have there pick of players but even that is changing. Usually players transfer if the program they are in recruits a better player than them the next season. That was the case with McGwire who was replaced by Sabaly and will see her time reduced even farther when Sabaly's sister show up and Boley who transferred from ND becomes eligible.
As to the pro's I am not up to date or specifics on salaries but I can make general statements. As was stated by a poster on a different thread on this site, the womens salaries are no where near that of the men.However their actually seams to be more opportunities available than for the men. The best players play in the WNBA but the salaries paid there do not compare to what can be made over seas. Players still want to play in the WNBA because playing in that league affects what they can get overseas ( kind of a reputation thing ), But the real money is over sea's. In fact the team that Diana Taurasi's Russian team payed her what she would have gotten from her WNBA team just to sit out and rest. I don't think the money comes from gate receipts, but rather from sponsors who have various reasons to support teams. The Russians seem to have money to burn and their players get all sorts of extra perks.
The best players by playing over sea's can make salaries into the hundreds of thousands of dollars a year from playing both in the WNBA and over seas. Not every player makes that much, but for players that love the game the opportunity to live in a foreign country while playing the game you love is a pretty good gig. The better you are the more money you can make. Most players, as you have stated, get perks and usually have all their living expenses taken care of, so that their salary is all profit. You could save quite a bit of money playing over seas. It seems that every foreign country has some sort of professional league. Most have multiple levels of leagues sort of like the minor leagues in baseball in the States. Due to a foreign player limit many American players become citizens of the countries they play in and then also play for the National teams and Unlike in the USA they get compensation as well.
Also playing professionally is something you can add to your resume if you chose to continue in coaching after your done.
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