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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 19, 2018 10:18:21 GMT -8
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 19, 2018 11:06:34 GMT -8
First of all - I'd like to see MLB in PDX. Old Vaughn Street site would be pretty amazing location. Not a lot of corporate heavy-hitters in PDX to buy up all of those skyboxes but someone can swing it without extorting money from the local governments I'd love to see it happen. |
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Post by zeroposter on Apr 19, 2018 12:43:54 GMT -8
After the first couple of seasons, average attendance will hover around 5000. Portland is a great soccer city.
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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 19, 2018 12:44:31 GMT -8
I'd probably go to a few games a year, but I'm not at all sold on the supposed economic benefits of local sports stadiums being financed with public dollars, so unless it can work without me having to pay for it, I'll take a pass. I think the lack of a large local corporate presence is a big road block also (as squonk alluded to). Agree with all of that. I would certainly go to a few games a year, mostly to see other big names come into town. Maybe we will have Blade Runner flying cars by then because traffic will be a nightmare. I also like the idea of a potential Portland vs Seattle rivalry as it was a lot of fun back in the Blazer/Sonics days and even Winterhawks/Seattle games were on a whole different level. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 19, 2018 12:46:54 GMT -8
After the first couple of seasons, average attendance will hover around 5000. Portland is a great soccer city. That would be less than the top 50 minor league teams. |
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Post by kersting13 on Apr 19, 2018 15:08:10 GMT -8
I'd probably go to a few games a year, but I'm not at all sold on the supposed economic benefits of local sports stadiums being financed with public dollars, so unless it can work without me having to pay for it, I'll take a pass. I think the lack of a large local corporate presence is a big road block also (as squonk alluded to). Agree with all of that. I would certainly go to a few games a year, mostly to see other big names come into town. Maybe we will have Blade Runner flying cars by then because traffic will be a nightmare. I also like the idea of a potential Portland vs Seattle rivalry as it was a lot of fun back in the Blazer/Sonics days and even Winterhawks/Seattle games were on a whole different level. I think MLB could work here in Portland, but it's obvious we'd be in that same tier that the current A's/Rays are in: The group of teams with very little money to splurge on free agents who have to rely on the draft/development of players before trading star players away for more prospects while hoping to bring it all together once every few years for a run at the playoffs. The MLB economic model is broken, and the big market teams are too valuable and powerful to ever agree to an economic model that will make a semi-level playing field for the smaller-market clubs. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 19, 2018 17:36:06 GMT -8
Agree with all of that. I would certainly go to a few games a year, mostly to see other big names come into town. Maybe we will have Blade Runner flying cars by then because traffic will be a nightmare. I also like the idea of a potential Portland vs Seattle rivalry as it was a lot of fun back in the Blazer/Sonics days and even Winterhawks/Seattle games were on a whole different level. I think MLB could work here in Portland, but it's obvious we'd be in that same tier that the current A's/Rays are in: The group of teams with very little money to splurge on free agents who have to rely on the draft/development of players before trading star players away for more prospects while hoping to bring it all together once every few years for a run at the playoffs. The MLB economic model is broken, and the big market teams are too valuable and powerful to ever agree to an economic model that will make a semi-level playing field for the smaller-market clubs. It'd be interesting if the owners of all the teams except NYY, NYM, BOS, LAD and CHC decided to leave MLB and start their own league with NFL-style revenue sharing. Yeah, I know - not gonna happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 19:19:57 GMT -8
If they can build a stadium without any public money then I don't see why anyone would be against having an MLB team in Portland. Build around a 35,000 seat stadium with a retractable roof, get local craft breweries on tap, even maybe a food truck area inside the park. It could awesome. I would go all the time.
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Post by osuft3 on Apr 19, 2018 23:00:05 GMT -8
I like the idea. I would prefer NL, which might allay potential conflict with the Mariners base. A new franchise might be easier to get behind than an old one with predisposed fans/haters----just as long as they don't try to lure Mike Parker away for their announcer.
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Post by kersting13 on Apr 20, 2018 7:49:15 GMT -8
If they can build a stadium without any public money then I don't see why anyone would be against having an MLB team in Portland. Build around a 35,000 seat stadium with a retractable roof, get local craft breweries on tap, even maybe a food truck area inside the park. It could awesome. I would go all the time. I really don't think we need a retractable roof stadium in Portland. It rarely rains hard enough here to cause the stoppage of a baseball game. With a tarped field with all of the modern drainage systems available, I would bet on fewer rainouts in Portland than most other places. The ONLY reason for a retractable roof is to lure fans in during April, and adds a couple hundred million dollars to the price tag. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Apr 20, 2018 8:09:50 GMT -8
I'm not sure Portlandia is RABID enough for MLBaseball. I mean, I don't know. Chances are, with a brand new club, the losses are going to add up. The Blazers (man...they SUCK right now!) are an established NBA franchise.....and, apparently, Paul Allen doesn't give a damn about winning championships anymore. He used to. I'm just not sure Portlanders (and their neighbors, like me) have the necessary fire/intensity/patience to sustain a team thru EIGHTY-ONE (81) home games. I'd LOVE to see it, but..... I don't know.
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Post by beaverdude on Apr 20, 2018 8:23:36 GMT -8
After the first couple of seasons, average attendance will hover around 5000. Portland is a great soccer city. Civic Stadium was mostly empty for the first few Timbers games in 1975 but that team started winning. Winning attracts fans. The 75 team eventually lost in the 1975 Soccer Bowl. Soccer may not have survived in Portland had the 75 team performed like the 76 and 77 teams did. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 13:19:34 GMT -8
If they can build a stadium without any public money then I don't see why anyone would be against having an MLB team in Portland. Build around a 35,000 seat stadium with a retractable roof, get local craft breweries on tap, even maybe a food truck area inside the park. It could awesome. I would go all the time. I really don't think we need a retractable roof stadium in Portland. It rarely rains hard enough here to cause the stoppage of a baseball game. With a tarped field with all of the modern drainage systems available, I would bet on fewer rainouts in Portland than most other places. The ONLY reason for a retractable roof is to lure fans in during April, and adds a couple hundred million dollars to the price tag. Yeah you're probably right, I looked up who has the most rainy days and seattle is 22nd so maybe portland wouldn't need one. heres the article its from 2012 but still pretty interesting. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 23, 2018 7:00:59 GMT -8
I really don't think we need a retractable roof stadium in Portland. It rarely rains hard enough here to cause the stoppage of a baseball game. With a tarped field with all of the modern drainage systems available, I would bet on fewer rainouts in Portland than most other places. The ONLY reason for a retractable roof is to lure fans in during April, and adds a couple hundred million dollars to the price tag. Yeah you're probably right, I looked up who has the most rainy days and seattle is 22nd so maybe portland wouldn't need one. heres the article its from 2012 but still pretty interesting. that is interesting. Wouldn't have guessed KC and NY being as high as they were (or Seattle being all the way down at #22) |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 25, 2018 7:52:44 GMT -8
After the first couple of seasons, average attendance will hover around 5000. Portland is a great soccer city. Don't be offended but that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board. |
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