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Post by 411500 on Apr 15, 2018 10:44:15 GMT -8
Looks like Raoul has been talking to beavershoopfan, or they have both been talking to the same sources.🏀
Today Raoul writes: "This is the third departure from Oregon WBB this offseason: freshman guard Aina Ayuso going pro. (Hearing there might be a fourth.)"
Interesting: the 8th player on their roster turning pro !! I presume that means pro ball in Spain.....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 15, 2018 11:50:37 GMT -8
Girls probably sick of the SI worship.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 15, 2018 12:01:53 GMT -8
Girls probably sick of the SI worship. SS gets a lot of the same. How would you feel if your head coach goes to the championship weekend with only two of his players, wonder who paid their way? The schmucks have a lot of issues, they are very talented but it appears that their coaching staff is unable to keep their players happy. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 15, 2018 12:07:25 GMT -8
Yep. Raoul knows women's collegiate basketball well and does a credible job posting public info on his Twitter site. I speculate that he hears much info unofficially as well prior to when he actually decides to post confirmed player movement.
With three Oregon players already officially gone following that squad's Elite 8 run, look for two more sophomores from the Ducks to find new homes before the dust settles.
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Post by newduke2 on Apr 15, 2018 13:01:32 GMT -8
So much for two thirds of Oregon's vaunted 2017 international recruiting class...
ProspectsNation Rankings
Satou Sabally International Rank #1. 5 Star. Staying at Oregon.
Anneli Maley International Rank #6. 4 Star. Leaving Oregon. Transferring to TCU.
Aina Ayuso International Rank #10. 4 Star. Leaving Oregon. Turning Pro.
Also, let's not forget that 2016 recruit Jayde Woods left Oregon in 2017, transferred to TCU, Campisano (2016 recruit, #14 overall player as per ESPN) is leaving, and Lauren Yearwood (2015 recruit) left Oregon in 2017, transferred to Santa Clara.
That's a lot of players leaving in a less than 16 month period, and there may be more to come relatively soon.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 15, 2018 20:42:16 GMT -8
A case of the pond being less scummy on the other side of the dike?
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 15, 2018 21:27:59 GMT -8
My reactions on this are mixed..... On one hand, transfers in WBB seem to be quite commonplace. On the other hand, I think "what? the great Mark Campbell can't keep recruiting classes?" (small wonder). Too busy claiming credit for our classes..... Actually - I think there might be something to gnawitall 's comment about SI. I know earlier in the year they sent her back in during a blowout to gather the necessary rebound/assist/whatever to get yet another triple-double........if I am a bench player, there go a few minutes that rightfully belong to me..... (I was a little bummed when SR pulled Mik during a blowout when she was flirting with a triple double, but it gave some minutes to our bench....the commentators even remarked when Mik got pulled that we needed a "hustle board like they have in Eugene" so the crowd can start telling the coach to put the player close to the triple double back in "like they do with SI". Not quite the purpose of a "hustle board" but at uo every concept gets perverted and they probably are using the more sketchy meaning of "hustle" anyway. That said, I did want Mik to get a triple double just to deflect some of the fawning attention paid to the current NCAA record holder, though it is quite an accomplishment, and at this rate SI will have a record that will stand for decades, especially with the player-coach dynamic at work - which probably leads all players not named SI to contemplate transfer....... Go Beavers! |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 15, 2018 22:05:19 GMT -8
I doubt that Mik was bummed though.
While transfers are becoming more common, this is becoming a mass exodus. Especially of there are a couple more, five in one year and two more the year before. Is this indicative of that program? Too much "i" and not enough we in that team.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 15, 2018 22:09:22 GMT -8
My reactions on this are mixed..... On one hand, transfers in WBB seem to be quite commonplace. On the other hand, I think "what? the great Mark Campbell can't keep recruiting classes?" (small wonder). Too busy claiming credit for our classes..... Actually - I think there might be something to gnawitall 's comment about SI. I know earlier in the year they sent her back in during a blowout to gather the necessary rebound/assist/whatever to get yet another triple-double........if I am a bench player, there go a few minutes that rightfully belong to me..... (I was a little bummed when SR pulled Mik during a blowout when she was flirting with a triple double, but it gave some minutes to our bench....the commentators even remarked when Mik got pulled that we needed a "hustle board like they have in Eugene" so the crowd can start telling the coach to put the player close to the triple double back in "like they do with SI". Not quite the purpose of a "hustle board" but at uo every concept gets perverted and they probably are using the more sketchy meaning of "hustle" anyway. That said, I did want Mik to get a triple double just to deflect some of the fawning attention paid to the current NCAA record holder, though it is quite an accomplishment, and at this rate SI will have a record that will stand for decades, especially with the player-coach dynamic at work - which probably leads all players not named SI to contemplate transfer....... Go Beavers! “I Sabrina” |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 16, 2018 8:16:14 GMT -8
SR knew what he was doing during recruiting. After the first year or two, when several players left, only one has transferred, I think, the guard who went to ECU. You solve 90% of your potential problems on LOI day by signing the right people.
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Post by willtalk on Apr 16, 2018 9:18:41 GMT -8
They are really going to miss Ayuso when Cazorla graduates. They need a true point like Cazorla/Ayuso to keep Sabrina from totally dominating the ball. The freshman they have coming in is a clone of Ionescu and can not serve that purpose. Ayusa is considered by some to have a higher upside than Cazorla. Her loss is big in respect to their future but will not really be felt until Cazorla graduates. Cazorla's importance to the team is not appreciated my everyone and Ayuso was going to assume that role after next year. I don't think they can replace her.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 16, 2018 10:00:05 GMT -8
The ECU transfer of which HS posts above is Khadidja Toure. Her stats for her final two years of play at ECU are listed below as well as the stats for her two years playing for Oregon State. She started most of her junior year and virtually all of her senior year at ECU. Interestly, Khadidja has a younger sister, Oumou, who is a 5'11" junior and has already set the all-time Kamiakin HS school recording for scoring and will likely finish with more than 2,000 points in her career. I'm guessing that there is no chance that Oumou follows her sister to Oregon State..... www.tri-cityherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-basketball/article199457209.html2016-17: Played in all 29 games after missing the season opener against Greensboro (11/11) … Started in 27 of 29 contests … Second on the team in minutes per game with 26.2 … Averaged 8.9 points, 2.3 rebounds and 1.9 assists per game … Ranked in the Top 30 in American Athletic Conference scoring … Shot .378 percent from three-point field goal range, sixth in the AAC … Led ECU in blocked shots with 20 which ranked 13th in the AAC … Matched her career-high 25 points at Tulsa (1/31) and made a career-best nine field goals that same game … Set a career-best six rebounds at UCF (1/18) and matched a career-high five baskets from behind the arc … Had a career-best three blocks at USF (1/14) … Set program record for career three-point field goal percentage (.329) … Scored in double figures nine times and recorded three 20-point performances … Named the 2017 ECU Outstanding Player of the Year 2015-16: Played in all 32 games and made 23 starts with an average of 27.3 minutes played per contest…Averaged 7.2 points, 2.9 rebounds and 2.7 assists per game…Led the Pirates in total assists with 87 and has the most on the team in nine different contests…Grabbed five or more rebounds seven times…Made 31 three-pointers on the season…Made multiple threes in nine different contests…Shot 72.1 percent (44-for-61) at the free throw line…Scored 12 points to go with five rebounds in her ECU debut against UTRGV (11/13)…Scored eight points to go with a season-high six assists and five steals against Alcorn State (11/17)…Dropped 14 points on Presbyterian (11/20)...Scored a season-high 18 points and shot a career-best 5-for-7 from beyond the three-point arc at Delaware (11/22)…Had 11 points, four assists and three steals against Eastern Washington (11/27)…Notched a career-high seven steals at Auburn (12/5)…Posted 13 points and five rebounds against Chattanooga (12/18)…Matched a season-high with 18 points against Tulane (1/5)…Scored 12 points in 28 minutes off the bench against Tulsa (2/3)…Had seven points and six assists against Cincinnati (3/4) in the first round of the conference tournament…Put up nine points and four assists against No. 1 UConn (3/5) in the quarterfinals of the conference tournament. 2014-15: Sat out due to NCAA transfer rules. Oregon State (2012-14): Played in 49 games during her two seasons with the Beavers including a pair of appearances in the 2014 NCAA Tournament ... Shot .405 overall as a sophomore in 2013-14 while averaging 3.1 points and 1.3 assists per game in a reserve role ... Totaled four points with one assist and a steal against top-seeded South Carolina in the second round of the NCAA Tournament ... Dished out a career-high seven assists in just 16 minutes against Oregon and had a season-high four rebounds against USC ... Scored nine points against Arizona State and eight versus Washington ... Tied her career high with three steals against Sacramento State ... As a freshman in 2012-13, appeared in 19 games and made five starts ... Averaged 2.6 points, 1.3 rebounds and one assist in 11.2 minutes per game ... Played a career-high 25 minutes against No. 4 Stanford and handed out a season-best four assists. |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 16, 2018 11:17:04 GMT -8
They are really going to miss Ayuso when Cazorla graduates. They need a true point like Cazorla/Ayuso to keep Sabrina from totally dominating the ball. The freshman they have coming in is a clone of Ionescu and can not serve that purpose. Ayusa is considered by some to have a higher upside than Cazorla. Her loss is big in respect to their future but will not really be felt until Cazorla graduates. Cazorla's importance to the team is not appreciated my everyone and Ayuso was going to assume that role after next year. I don't think they can replace her. Thanks for the info on Cazorla and Ayuso....Some interesting points.... "The freshman they have coming in is a clone of Ionescu...." Not sure what you were getting at, but I'm afraid you missed the mark on that one. There are no Ionesco clones out there this year - anywhere. Like her or leave her she is a once in a decade offensive talent. Oregon has no one coming in who is remotely close to being an Ionesco clone.... |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 17, 2018 13:07:15 GMT -8
"The Purge 4: An Offseason in Eugene" is explained logically by Coach Graves in the Oregon Live article below. The article will need to be amended (or rewritten) when two other players find new homes. And I hope that they do. Significant talent on the women's basketball team will remain in Eugene and the Ducks will be the early PAC-12 favorites to defend their conference title in '18-'19, but the recent exodus is gaining notice throughout the country. www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2018/04/3_oregon_ducks_reserves_depart.html#incart_2box |
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Post by 411500 on Apr 17, 2018 13:51:32 GMT -8
bhf - got to disagree with you on this one.....Even if the Ducks lose 4 (or 5) reserves this year, it won't substantially reduce the strength of their roster or the quality of their team.
The Ducks recruit impressively and the players they lost, while they are all pretty darn good (probably considerably stronger players than the Beavers 7 - 10s) they can be easily replaced in the next recruiting cycle.
The Ducks treat their WBB schollie athletes just like most Men powerhouse programs: deliver or depart. It is not a great feel good philosophy, and it's not great for building human bonds or team togetherness - but it is a pretty much accepted strategy for developing a powerhouse basketball team.
OSU fans love the team chemistry approach to the game - I know I do. But in the real world of competitive basketball it is only one approach. And, by the way, it is an approach that only works if you have a lot of talent on your roster - like the Beavers.
Bottom line: The Ducks are loaded and they really don't care if several low minutes players transfer out. When Nov. 1 rolls around no one at Oregon will know they are gone, and no one will miss them.
Lots of things not to like about Oregon - but shedding weaker players from the roster is simply how they roll.
It's a an attitude luxury they can afford now and for the foreseeable future....
GO BEAVS !!
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