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Post by newduke2 on Apr 15, 2018 8:46:46 GMT -8
Samantha Brunelle out of Virgina (6'2" forward, number 1 WBB player as per ESPN, number 4 as per ProspectsNation) will announce her verbal college choice at 4 pm EDT (1 pm PDT) today. Not a fan of these grandiose college choice "announcement" ceremonies. (Neither Oregon State or Oregon are on her final list of college choices). She's presumably a really good player, but the decision to hype up one's unofficial school selection just screams "me, me, me" and a huge ego. Yeah, I understand today's urge for self-promotion as publicity certainly has often proven to advance one's economic prospects, but this kind of stuff is out of control. What about being or remaining humble? These kids (16-17 year olds) are still young and already too in love with their press clippings, and work to create even more. Interesting to me how the use of the "big announcement" no longer applies just to boy's high school football and basketball players but has crept into girl's sports too. Would or did Rueck recruit her? I don't know, but maybe he would (or does or has to) overlook this type of self-promotion as it has just become an unfortunate sign of times.
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Post by bennyskid on Apr 15, 2018 9:23:53 GMT -8
I don't think it's the kids. It's all the adults around them pushing this. Her high school administration loves what they consider to be positive exposure. Her HS coaches are happy to follow the directions from their bosses - it makes them look good, too. Her AAU coaches are thrilled for the exposure, which they will milk to recruit more parents - er, I mean, players - into their program. "We got Samantha Brunelle into Notre Dame on a full ride worth $200.000+. Mrs. Jones - I'm sure that with our coaching and her hard work, we can get your daughter a ride at Mayberry Christian. But she really needs to be on the travel team . . . "
How many kids are going to swim against that current?
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Post by newduke2 on Apr 15, 2018 9:33:06 GMT -8
I don't think it's the kids. It's all the adults around them pushing this. Her high school administration loves what they consider to be positive exposure. Her HS coaches are happy to follow the directions from their bosses - it makes them look good, too. Her AAU coaches are thrilled for the exposure, which they will milk to recruit more parents - er, I mean, players - into their program. "We got Samantha Brunelle into Notre Dame on a full ride worth $200.000+. Mrs. Jones - I'm sure that with our coaching and her hard work, we can get your daughter a ride at Mayberry Christian. But she really needs to be on the travel team . . . " How many kids are going to swim against that current? Well yes, I'm sure that in some cases it's the adults around them, or society's influence, or their own thought processes....we really don't know which since we can't read their minds. However, for the coaches/recruiters it is part of their job to comprehend the personality or character of the player as best they can before they offer a scholarship. IMO, a good recruiter who has done her or his homework should probably know or have a good feel ahead of time whether or not the player that has a grandiose announcement event was doing it "in character" or "out of character" (because they were pushed).
[[So, accepting your comment as a possibility, and not actually knowing Brunelle's true character, I realize that using her and her announcement as an example of an ego issue could be misplaced. I certainly may be mischaracterizing her, at least in part. If I am wrong about her reasoning and motivation, I apologize. ]]
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 15, 2018 9:34:08 GMT -8
This is what I love about Casey and Rueck. We have adequate facilities and not much fanfare and still successful. Berg is making headway in this area as well. She had a 31st ish class as freshman this year and I think around 16 for next. Our softball complex pales in comparison to the ones I see them play in. At the end of the day it's about people.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 15, 2018 10:30:36 GMT -8
Our basketball facilities are far more than adequate.
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Post by bennyskid on Apr 15, 2018 10:54:53 GMT -8
The facilities - for all sports - are good to excellent. The fact that they are all together, right on campus, and within a block of the Academic Support Center, puts them on another level. Other schools may have fancier stuff, but in the real life of a student-athlete, that doesn't mean much.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 15, 2018 12:08:08 GMT -8
I didn't like it when the "i" did it a couple years ago and when Westbrook did it last year. They would never fit in with the beavs.
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Post by newduke2 on Apr 15, 2018 12:15:48 GMT -8
If you are curious or wondering, Brunelle picked Notre Dame, after reading word for word a rather lengthy pre-written speech. (she used a live stream feed to broadcast the ceremony).
Looks like the publicity ploy worked...ESPN posted a regular length article about her and her choice within about 20 minutes after her announcement was complete. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 15, 2018 12:57:11 GMT -8
And... it all boils down to a giant... WHO CARES!!! Until they sign on the dotted line saying they are a Beaver... who really cares?  A giant leap from the thread, but in my thought process as I see programs like SB grow in one of the toughest women's sport/conference in the country and the other programs on the rise. I expect our coaches... in every sport... to recruit the best kids they feel fit their system and are "coachable" on and off the field. That's their job and really as a fan I could care less about players until they are on campus and signed. I trust the staff to determine those kids regardless of "stars/rankings". Then I expect them to coach them up as individuals and as a team. As a fan that is where my concerns are typically raised... if there are any. I truly do not have any qualms in this regard with any sport (that I actually watch enough to have an educated opinion) other than MBB. Could care less about *, parentage, ranking... just that of all the sports I have witnessed (now that GAG is gone) MBB is by far the worst developed team and set of individuals... and by a long way when you look at SR and PC's programs, and even the SB program. Some will say it's not an apples to apples comparison in that the other two successful programs (football/JS hasn't the 4-5 years time frame yet) as they are further along in their development. And... conversely I'll argue that in the case of baseball PC did not get great recruits his first 4-6 years, but taught GREAT baseball. His kids were developing their entire tenure at OSU. The program struggled for a period, but the groundwork was clearly there and the program took off when the recruits/skills level increased. The same exact thing can be said with SR and WBB... but, on a quicker timeline. MBB has basically seemed to stagnate, and actually take steps backwards at times, and that is with far better recruits than the other two programs began their climbs with. I find myself consistently comparing the MBB player/program development with the other programs. It can be done here... it's been proven in multiple sports... including Gymnastics and Wrestling. It makes you truly appreciate what some of these coaches/staffs have done... and gives hope that MBB will actually turn the corner. Just do not think the right guy is in charge. As for Samantha and every other top recruit that is not a Beaver... TOO BAD... good luck. You missed the boat to attend a special school, in a great little college town, coached up by a special staff, and surrounded by those that could have been the best friends you would ever have. Sort of got back on track!  |
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Post by newduke2 on Apr 15, 2018 13:21:58 GMT -8
baseba1111, my original topic was/is completely off track to begin with, as it is relates to OSU in only a very minor way (by asking if Rueck recruited Brunelle and wondering what he might think about a player making a seemingly self-promotional ceremony out a recruitment selection announcement.)
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 15, 2018 21:48:49 GMT -8
MBB has basically seemed to stagnate, and actually take steps backwards at times, and that is with far better recruits than the other two programs began their climbs with. I find myself consistently comparing the MBB player/program development with the other programs. It can be done here... it's been proven in multiple sports... including Gymnastics and Wrestling. It makes you truly appreciate what some of these coaches/staffs have done... and gives hope that MBB will actually turn the corner. Just do not think the right guy is in charge. Well said. Being the eternal optimist, I expect MBB to turn the corner. Especially since we have had teams here that should have been able to compete - example - lottery pick Brent Barry never played in any post season tournament. He was on a team with Chad Scott, Scott Haskin, Charles McKinney.....ugh. That said, I don't want to diminish what SR has done. To take us from the post-LaVonda debacle to a perennial Sweet-16/Elite-8 level team in 4-5 years is a tremendous accomplishment. Speaks volumes to him, his coaching, his assistants, and his recruits. And I think that is the key: he seems to realize that he needs a certain kind of player. Those kind of players are happy here, play well together on a team, and then the team overachieves (or hits its potential......pick your narrative). Luckily his kind of player exists in the world and some even come to OSU. That said, the other thing that he demonstrated was that with just a couple of the "right" players, you can turn the corner and your program can be successful. And what bugs me is that MBB has not been able to do the same, even with a seemingly endless parade of promising (and some less-than-promising) coaches and players. Someday..... Go Beavers! |
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