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Post by 411500 on Apr 4, 2018 6:56:24 GMT -8
Very interesting item in "Raoul" today. It pertains directly to a post I wrote last week on "Level 2 recruiting."
Raoul reports that 12 of the ESPN Top 25 for 2016 have transferred schools either last year or this year.
So, in everyday language, of the top 25 girl high school players in America who graduated h.s. in 2016 are now - less than two years later - NOT playing for the schools they signed their letter of intent with.
That's rather remarkable attrition in my opinion.
Interesting tidbits among these transfers: The 2 highest ranked transfers (#5 & #7) transferred to Oregon and OSU.
Ohio State and Maryland both lost 2 Top 25 players to transfer. Oregon lost one (Campisano).
All of these transfer players will end up somewhere. I would predict none are dropping out of school. They are dropping into school elsewhere.
Level 2 recruiting anyone?
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 4, 2018 8:30:00 GMT -8
I think what you need to do (and I suspect our WBB coaching staff does this well) in light of this situation is at least 2-fold:
First, make sure you stay on good terms with recruits that decide to go to a different school - view it not as a "no" but "not yet" (especially given all the movement!).
Second, keep a couple of scholarships unfilled so that movement Raoul spoke of is something you can take advantage of.....
Lastly, as long as your program is a destination, and an obvious one, I suspect these transfer candidates will come knocking on your door when they "go shopping".
So being in the six or seven shortlist schools for high profile candidates might serve a valuable function in keeping us top-of-mind with transfer candidates....
Along with, of course, making deep tournament runs and becoming a Top-25 fixture. Also helpful is first round WNBA draft picks, and we might keep that trend alive as well.
Other than that, I don't know what happens behind the scenes in terms of Level 2 recruiting. I know there are live/dead periods with HS players, but I don't know what the protocols are for already-on-scholarship players (e.g. could a coach call up Evina Westbrook and ask "are you happy?")
Go Beavers!
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Post by kersting13 on Apr 4, 2018 8:49:18 GMT -8
I think what you need to do (and I suspect our WBB coaching staff does this well) in light of this situation is at least 2-fold: First, make sure you stay on good terms with recruits that decide to go to a different school - view it not as a "no" but "not yet" (especially given all the movement!). Second, keep a couple of scholarships unfilled so that movement Raoul spoke of is something you can take advantage of..... Lastly, as long as your program is a destination, and an obvious one, I suspect these transfer candidates will come knocking on your door when they "go shopping". So being in the six or seven shortlist schools for high profile candidates might serve a valuable function in keeping us top-of-mind with transfer candidates.... Along with, of course, making deep tournament runs and becoming a Top-25 fixture. Also helpful is first round WNBA draft picks, and we might keep that trend alive as well. Other than that, I don't know what happens behind the scenes in terms of Level 2 recruiting. I know there are live/dead periods with HS players, but I don't know what the protocols are for already-on-scholarship players (e.g. could a coach call up Evina Westbrook and ask "are you happy?") Go Beavers! I don't think coaches are allowed to contact other players directly. But, as 411 stated earlier, in elite women's basketball circles, everyone knows someone. If a kid isn't happy, and might be available coaches will find out, and coaches have ways that they can let it be known there is mutual interest. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Apr 4, 2018 9:20:24 GMT -8
Many Division 1 players planning to transfer have already sought and obtained their signed releases from their respective athletic departments and are scheduling visits to collegiate programs high on their lists. As kersting13 above suggests, the initial contact to the new college has to come from the player or player's family prior to communication coming from the prospective new school.
Players who have been AAU teammates during their youth careers with players in other programs are often the first ones to know who is considering transferring and who has already sought and obtained a release. Players talk with each other. I would think that the message that most OSU players have to share about their college experience in Corvallis would likely be a very positive one.
OSU is well positioned to take on one or two grad transfers or players who haven't earned a degree and are willing to redshirt a season (like Destiny Slocum has done) for the opportunity to play for the Beavers. That is part of the coaching wisdom of not using all 15 allowable scholarships year after year. The OSU coaching staff has built in some scholarship flexibility if the right one or two players come along and can help the team immediately at position needs.
Should I hear or read in Twitter posts of any visits to Corvallis from prospective transfers, I will be sure to post here and fuel the fan base's continued curiosity and interest.
The program's march in '17-'18 to the Elite Eight and multiple Top 10 finishes in the polls has to help in attracting potential transfers to consider Corvallis as a viable transfer option.
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Post by 411500 on Apr 4, 2018 9:59:10 GMT -8
ND got a tremendous boost in this year's National championship run because of a transfer - -Jessica Shepard...
The Beavs are anticipating a big boost in next year's team because of a transfer - -Destiny Slocum.
Oregon lost a top 25 player in large measure because of the transfer-in of an even higher rated recruit.
So, I think bhf & 2ndGen are spot on when they point out that a smart coach must keep a trained eye on the possibility of a quality player wanting to transfer in.
At any rate, I think it is interesting to investigate......
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 4, 2018 15:34:16 GMT -8
As long as no one transfers, and I doubt anyone will, we will have 13 on our roster next year, that gives us a two player buffer for potential transfers.
One nice thing of that we will have an even distribution with 3 freshmen, 3 sophomores, 4 juniors, and 3 seniors. Which is better than the 5,4,1 of the last three years.
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