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Post by skyrider on Mar 23, 2018 18:22:12 GMT -8
Someone (anyone!) please send the link for the "pressers" for Oregon State and Baylor after this epic game. Are the "pressers" by chance available on ESPN3?
Thanks! What a great day to be a Beaver!
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 23, 2018 18:40:49 GMT -8
saw a shorty by Kim M that was very complimentary of Gulich
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Post by beavdowg on Mar 23, 2018 19:17:04 GMT -8
I've only watched 15 minutes of Baylors presser so far but I see a difference in Mulkey. I think 2 years ago when we beat them she was pissed and felt like they were just victim to a lovely Cinderella story. This time I think she realizes that Rueck is a flat out big time coach and we're a good team. She pretty much said as much, they got beat by a great team. I am getting tired of all the "With all we've been through this season..." talk though. Tennessee said the exact same thing. Really!? C'mon, you (both Tennessee and Baylor) got beat by an ELITE program that just were better than you tonight. It's not a surprise ladies, OSU is for real and has been for about 4 years now! You lost 2 games this season. Great season! Incidentally, both losses were to Pac-12 teams. Ahem, we play ball out here. Got it! How many more losses will it take to realize that? We're not going anywhere Baylor, Tennessee, Notre Dame, Duke! Well, actually, we are, we're rising. And rising and rising. Accept it. If you can't just watch. ARRGGGGHHHH!!! I'm pumped!
GO BEAVS!!
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 23, 2018 19:46:23 GMT -8
Tennessee players did not give any credit to Oregon State....just said it just was their poor play. Oh well, they are still pretty young. Kim DID give credit to Oregon State, although she gave some of blame to losing 2 starters in the last 4 weeks. I think it is legitimate for her to mention this. Mulkey was very complimentary of MG.
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 23, 2018 22:00:24 GMT -8
Rueck's response to the question about his thoughts on beating elite programs back-to-back was so awesome!. He was relatively testy, and basically said that if you'd been paying attention, you'd realize an elite program just beat two other elite programs and it's time the press figured that out.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Mar 23, 2018 22:25:36 GMT -8
Yes, loved Scott's answer to that question. If you're surprised, you haven't been paying attention. He's not doing this with luck.
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 24, 2018 8:32:58 GMT -8
I thought Mulkey did a great job at the presser. Remember that the coach's goal at the presser is to shape the stories being written, and she did a great job of making sure that the story is, "Gulich carries team to victory" instead of "Baylor chokes in the big game - again." I think she went on too long with the pity party, but she recovered and went back to praising Gulich.
That said, her players had absolutely no clue about why they lost. Contrast that with our girls, who can sound absolutely nerdy in the post-game conferences with their coach-speak. Every player said that they (individually) didn't play well and let the team down, but they never paused to wonder why *no one* played well. They just don't understand the game well enough.
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Post by 411500 on Mar 24, 2018 9:02:31 GMT -8
Agree with your comments bennyskid - - The Baylor players are obviously hurt by the loss, they are disappointed, they are frustrated.
But they sure as hell demonstrated no understanding of what happened to them in this game, and no apparent clue that they:
[1] failed to shut down the Beaver perimeter game (they were killed by 3s);
[2] failed to shut down the Beaver interior game (they were killed by Gulich);
[3] failed to control the boards (even though they are the best rebounding team in the country and had a dramatic size advantage;
[4] failed to break down the Beaver defense which kept them out of synch the entire game.
I don't expect college kids to be coaches, but I expect them to have enough respect for their opponents that they can figure out what the opponent did to beat them.
P.S. I'll try to post the write-up from the Waco newspaper. Same story different verse - all along these lines: "They didn't win, we lost." "They shot well, we didn't." "They had one good player, and she beat us."
In basketball learning respect for your opponent starts at the top and works its way down. On this count Mulkey has a lot to learn.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 24, 2018 9:39:45 GMT -8
Basketball it's one of those games where rarely can one player beat you. Usually what you do is if you are facing a dominant player you say Well they're going to get theirs but nobody else is and you play that way taking what you can trim off of the best player as you go. It was not a good performance for the Bears because the Beavers controlled the tempo of the game and Baylor might be taller inside than the Beavers but the Beavers are taller outside and that really helped the rebounding margin.
The only reason that the Bears got as many rebounds as they did in the first place was because when you throw up bricks for threes, you usually get long rebounds that bounce way over the interior players of the defense, who are crashing the boards.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 24, 2018 9:42:27 GMT -8
Agree with your comments bennyskid - - The Baylor players are obviously hurt by the loss, they are disappointed, they are frustrated. But they sure as hell demonstrated no understanding of what happened to them in this game, and no apparent clue that they: [1] failed to shut down the Beaver perimeter game (they were killed by 3s); [2] failed to shut down the Beaver interior game (they were killed by Gulich); [3] failed to control the boards (even though they are the best rebounding team in the country and had a dramatic size advantage; [4] failed to break down the Beaver defense which kept them out of synch the entire game. I don't expect college kids to be coaches, but I expect them to have enough respect for their opponents that they can figure out what the opponent did to beat them. P.S. I'll try to post the write-up from the Waco newspaper. Same story different verse - all along these lines: "They didn't win, we lost." "They shot well, we didn't." "They had one good player, and she beat us."In basketball learning respect for your opponent starts at the top and works its way down. On this count Mulkey has a lot to learn. I love when teams make excuses... they never realize how much worse it makes them seem. Not just in the failure to praise the better team that day, but the literal interpretation. So... if ONE player beat you, then you're not very good... right? And, as much praise that is heaped (we all heap it to every player... but Marie is often seen as the "key") on Marie, she is not the key. Bigs don't win you games without the "littles" executing a great game plan. Baylor BIGS are physically stronger and almost as talented in many regards to Marie... AND they had TWO of them. OSU thrives when the (4) exterior players move the ball, shoot it reasonably well to allow the defense to not focus on Marie, as one-on-one she is more athletic than most bigs playing against her. OSU struggles in their (7) losses are due to lack of ball movement, TO's, and very poor shooting (what's new when you depend on the outside game and really only have one interior presence), Marie typically still had good games. OSU truly exemplifies team basketball with great coaching and player development. Not the most physically talented team on the floor a lot of the time in NCAA games... but, so much more in control of tempo and play at or above their level... or perceived level. So fun to watch. Sunday OSU will again be given no chance to advance by the experts. Louisville is VERY talented all over the floor. Louisville is also probably ecstatic that we beat Baylor and might be looking past OSU to MissSt (who best not overlook UCLA). I'd suggest Coach Walz best have them prepared... GO BEAVS |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 24, 2018 9:45:14 GMT -8
Many bookies, I mean odds makers had us way down, would wave won a nice pile of cash if you'd put a c note on the beavs and let it ride
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Post by beavdowg on Mar 24, 2018 10:04:08 GMT -8
Agree with your comments bennyskid - - The Baylor players are obviously hurt by the loss, they are disappointed, they are frustrated. But they sure as hell demonstrated no understanding of what happened to them in this game, and no apparent clue that they: [1] failed to shut down the Beaver perimeter game (they were killed by 3s); [2] failed to shut down the Beaver interior game (they were killed by Gulich); [3] failed to control the boards (even though they are the best rebounding team in the country and had a dramatic size advantage; [4] failed to break down the Beaver defense which kept them out of synch the entire game. I don't expect college kids to be coaches, but I expect them to have enough respect for their opponents that they can figure out what the opponent did to beat them. P.S. I'll try to post the write-up from the Waco newspaper. Same story different verse - all along these lines: "They didn't win, we lost." "They shot well, we didn't." "They had one good player, and she beat us."In basketball learning respect for your opponent starts at the top and works its way down. On this count Mulkey has a lot to learn. I love when teams make excuses... they never realize how much worse it makes them seem. Not just in the failure to praise the better team that day, but the literal interpretation. So... if ONE player beat you, then you're not very good... right? And, as much praise that is heaped (we all heap it to every player... but Marie is often seen as the "key") on Marie, she is not the key. Bigs don't win you games without the "littles" executing a great game plan. Baylor BIGS are physically stronger and almost as talented in many regards to Marie... AND they had TWO of them. OSU thrives when the (4) exterior players move the ball, shoot it reasonably well to allow the defense to not focus on Marie, as one-on-one she is more athletic than most bigs playing against her. OSU struggles in their (7) losses are due to lack of ball movement, TO's, and very poor shooting (what's new when you depend on the outside game and really only have one interior presence), Marie typically still had good games. OSU truly exemplifies team basketball with great coaching and player development. Not the most physically talented team on the floor a lot of the time in NCAA games... but, so much more in control of tempo and play at or above their level... or perceived level. So fun to watch. Sunday OSU will again be given no chance to advance by the experts. Louisville is VERY talented all over the floor. Louisville is also probably ecstatic that we beat Baylor and might be looking past OSU to MissSt (who best not overlook UCLA). I'd suggest Coach Walz best have them prepared... GO BEAVS I stayed up to watch some of the Louisville-Stanford game. That game was pretty close for the first half. I didn't stay up to watch the second half when, obviously, Louisville blew it open. What I did see was uber-athletic but smallish perimeter players. I didn't see a lot of size inside, although it's hard to tell sometimes from TV. I'm wondering if the plan will be to pound the rock inside and take advantage of Marie's size and athleticism. I wasn't terribly impressed with Louisville but they are, as I said, extremely athletic 1-3. From what I could tell their coach may be prone to outbursts and losing it too if things start to not go their way. Obviously Louisville is VERY good, but so was Baylor supposedly. I'm excited to see what Rueck draws up for this. GO BEAVS!! |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 24, 2018 14:13:20 GMT -8
saw a shorty by Kim M that was very complimentary of Gulich I watched Mulkey's postgame presser. A couple of comments: The format of these postgame pressers is that first the HC gives his/her general thoughts about the game just played. Then the 3 players take questions from the press and are dismissed; finally the coach answers questions. Mulkey decided she didn't have any comments of her own about the game and just kicked it straight over to her players to field questions. Then after they were done she took questions - And in short order threw her team under the bus. First she offers some compliments toward "that girl" from OSU that her team had no answer for (whose fault is that, coach?). Then she makes the bizarre comment about not being able to "milk that turnip" any more. As if "milking a turnip" was some down-home southern expression us yankees wouldn't understand. Well I understand it as an awkward mixed metaphor somewhere between "squeezing blood out of a turnip" and "milking the cow dry". Apparently the "turnip" was her team and she just couldn't "milk" or draw any more performance out of them. Ouch. Sorry about those tire marks Lady Bears. The fact that Mulkey couldn't compose herself to provide some perspective about the game; maybe take a little of the heat off her players - like a head coach is supposed to do - is unsurprising. It's just not in her nature. For her to just lateral that task over to her players seemed like a cold passive-aggressive action against her own team (to me at least). I'm sure she likes her players. You could hardly be a coach with her record of success if she didn't. But to my eyes and ears she has a very strange way of showing it. |
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