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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 22, 2018 11:42:09 GMT -8
Fresno State's Kendall Evans cheap-shotted Terrell Roberts and broke his finger, ruining Oregon State's 2001 campaign before it started. But Oregon State beat Fresno State in 2002. All is forgiven Pat Hill and Kendall Evans. The score is settled! Don't worry, 56chevy has you a card! Arik Williams nailed an FSU punt returner in identical fashion the following season. That score was settled right there. I was a big fan of the way Dennis Erickson handled the 2002 game. I must admit that my anger about that 2001 game has dramatically decreased since Marcus McMaryion started playing there. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 22, 2018 12:02:06 GMT -8
So, Meggs shoehorns his lousy team in and forces Oregon State to stay home, then hands Heimlich his lone loss of 2017, one of three conference losses for the Beavers in 2017, and the only one by one run. You're telling me that bending over and taking one from Washington last year "settled the score?" And you're getting Meggs a card on top of it? Fresno State's Kendall Evans cheap-shotted Terrell Roberts and broke his finger, ruining Oregon State's 2001 campaign before it started. But Oregon State beat Fresno State in 2002. All is forgiven Pat Hill and Kendall Evans. The score is settled! Don't worry, 56chevy has you a card! Boise State's Winston Venable cheap-shotted James Rodgers and knocked him out for two weeks in 2010, ruining Oregon State's 2010 campaign before it started. But Oregon State beat Boise State in 2013. All is forgiven Chris Peterson and Winston Venable. The score is settled! Don't worry, 56chevy has you a card! If true, you are a better person than I am. Would you not agree that being left out of the playoff field in 2016 has been one of the components that has elevated the program to another level since then? Would you not agree that Meggs had something to do with us being left out of the playoffs in 2016? I agree that Meggs horse-traded Oregon State out of the Tournament in 2016. I agree that that snub is a big reason that the Beavers came out strong in 2017. However, I would argue that Oregon State not being allowed to play in 2016 is a big reason that the Beavers crashed out of the College World Series last year. The Beavers had the ability and drive to beat up on the dregs that they played in the regular season. However, when things started breaking against Oregon State and the level of competition ratcheted up, the Beavers crumbled, because they lacked experience against elite teams, especially in a Tournament format. And even if Oregon State has been white hot, where is the comeuppance for Washington? The Beavers played 24 opponents in 2017. Oregon State went a perfect 48-0 against 19 of them. Heimlich started 16 games in 2017. The only team to hand him a loss? Washington. No comeuppance for the Huskies. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 22, 2018 12:15:10 GMT -8
I agree that Meggs horse-traded Oregon State out of the Tournament in 2016. I agree that that snub is a big reason that the Beavers came out strong in 2017. However, I would argue that Oregon State not being allowed to play in 2016 is a big reason that the Beavers crashed out of the College World Series last year. The Beavers had the ability and drive to beat up on the dregs that they played in the regular season. However, when things started breaking against Oregon State and the level of competition ratcheted up, the Beavers crumbled, because they lacked experience against elite teams, especially in a Tournament format. And even if Oregon State has been white hot, where is the comeuppance for Washington? The Beavers played 24 opponents in 2017. Oregon State went a perfect 48-0 against 19 of them. Heimlich started 16 games in 2017. The only team to hand him a loss? Washington. No comeuppance for the Huskies. I think the biggest reason is not having the best pitcher in the nation, and a horrid set of umpires. Luke was worth at least two victories that we were missing. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 22, 2018 12:22:58 GMT -8
However, when things started breaking against Oregon State and the level of competition ratcheted up, the Beavers crumbled, because they lacked experience against elite teams, especially in a Tournament format. OSU won three straight games at the Corvallis Regional, then crushed Vandy two straight in the Supers, and defeated CSUF and LSU at the CWS. That's seven wins in a row in a tournament format, four against "elite" level teams. That's hardly crumbling. If Kwan's ball is called fair, as it should have been, two runs score, Kwan is on second or third (the ball had bounced away from the LF, back toward the infield) with Larnach and Harrison coming to bat. The game is tied 2-2 and the LSU pitcher is on the ropes, ready to be replaced by the guy who started on Saturday with one more base hit. The impact of that blown call cannot be underestimated. It changed the entire dynamic of the CWS. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 22, 2018 12:24:50 GMT -8
However, when things started breaking against Oregon State and the level of competition ratcheted up, the Beavers crumbled, because they lacked experience against elite teams, especially in a Tournament format. OSU won three straight games at the Corvallis Regional, then crushed Vandy two straight in the Supers, and defeated CSUF and LSU at the CWS. That's seven wins in a row in a tournament format, four against "elite" level teams. That's hardly crumbling. If Kwan's ball is called fair, as it should have been, two runs score, Kwan is on second or third (the ball had bounced away from the LF, back toward the infield) with Larnach and Harrison coming to bat. The game is tied 2-2 and the LSU pitcher is on the ropes, ready to be replaced by the guy who started on Saturday with one more base hit. The impact of that blown call cannot be underestimated. It changed the entire dynamic of the CWS. As well as not having the best pitcher in the nation. Nothing crumbled except the umpiring and circumstances that were beyond control of the players. Not the players. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 22, 2018 12:38:41 GMT -8
However, when things started breaking against Oregon State and the level of competition ratcheted up, the Beavers crumbled, because they lacked experience against elite teams, especially in a Tournament format. OSU won three straight games at the Corvallis Regional, then crushed Vandy two straight in the Supers, and defeated CSUF and LSU at the CWS. That's seven wins in a row in a tournament format, four against "elite" level teams. That's hardly crumbling. If Kwan's ball is called fair, as it should have been, two runs score, Kwan is on second or third (the ball had bounced away from the LF, back toward the infield) with Larnach and Harrison coming to bat. The game is tied 2-2 and the LSU pitcher is on the ropes, ready to be replaced by the guy who started on Saturday with one more base hit. The impact of that blown call cannot be underestimated. It changed the entire dynamic of the CWS. If Casey had more Tournament experience, he may have challenged the play. Without a Pac-12 Baseball Tournament, the NCAA Tournament is a Pac-12 coach's only experience with the instant replay system. That was 100% on Casey. And I would argue that additional experience in the Tournament in 2016 would have given Casey the insight to challenge the call. Instead, the game devolved. Oregon State subsequently got shafted by an umpire with a nebulous strike zone the next day. Given more Tournament experience, some of the sophomores, juniors, and seniors would have been better prepared to adjust to that umpire, giving Oregon State a puncher's chance to win. Instead, Oregon State crashes out of the Tournament, one game short of what would have been an epic three-game slugfest with Florida. A chip on your shoulder gets you only so far. When the talent level increases, experience often wins a day. The Pac-12 stacks the deck against itself without a conference tournament. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 22, 2018 12:53:16 GMT -8
I agree that Meggs horse-traded Oregon State out of the Tournament in 2016. I agree that that snub is a big reason that the Beavers came out strong in 2017. However, I would argue that Oregon State not being allowed to play in 2016 is a big reason that the Beavers crashed out of the College World Series last year. The Beavers had the ability and drive to beat up on the dregs that they played in the regular season. However, when things started breaking against Oregon State and the level of competition ratcheted up, the Beavers crumbled, because they lacked experience against elite teams, especially in a Tournament format. And even if Oregon State has been white hot, where is the comeuppance for Washington? The Beavers played 24 opponents in 2017. Oregon State went a perfect 48-0 against 19 of them. Heimlich started 16 games in 2017. The only team to hand him a loss? Washington. No comeuppance for the Huskies. I think the biggest reason is not having the best pitcher in the nation, and a horrid set of umpires. Luke was worth at least two victories that we were missing. If Heimlich had pitched at the College World Series, he would have probably thrown in the second game against LSU. Thompson only allowed three runs. Heimlich gave up three runs to Washington State in the Pac-12 finale. Maybe Heimlich holds LSU to one? My money is on no but maybe. The big thing would have been Thompson would have been available to throw in the third game against LSU. Thompson gave up three in the second game in real life. Maybe with the nebulous strike zone, he holds LSU to one? Again, I doubt it. No doubt, it would have helped if Heimlich had been in Omaha, but I do not know, if he pushes Oregon State across the finish line. The Beavers' bats went silent at the exact wrong time. (Nebulous strike zone certainly played a part, but that does not explain the second game against LSU.) |
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 23, 2018 6:40:35 GMT -8
So, Meggs shoehorns his lousy team in and forces Oregon State to stay home, then hands Heimlich his lone loss of 2017, one of three conference losses for the Beavers in 2017, and the only one by one run. You're telling me that bending over and taking one from Washington last year "settled the score?" And you're getting Meggs a card on top of it? Fresno State's Kendall Evans cheap-shotted Terrell Roberts and broke his finger, ruining Oregon State's 2001 campaign before it started. But Oregon State beat Fresno State in 2002. All is forgiven Pat Hill and Kendall Evans. The score is settled! Don't worry, 56chevy has you a card! Boise State's Winston Venable cheap-shotted James Rodgers and knocked him out for two weeks in 2010, ruining Oregon State's 2010 campaign before it started. But Oregon State beat Boise State in 2013. All is forgiven Chris Peterson and Winston Venable. The score is settled! Don't worry, 56chevy has you a card! If true, you are a better person than I am. I grew up in Fresno and even though I'm a beav now that hit is still awesome. I can definitely see why OSU fans hate Fresno State for that but that hit (and win) embodied what Bulldog football was and should be. Sorry I know this is a baseball thread and Oregon State board lol You’re not much of an OSU fan if you think that cheap shot was “awesome”. It was a stupid dirty play plain and simple. But I think you’re probably right - that play embodies “Bulldog ‘football’”. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Mar 23, 2018 13:15:37 GMT -8
I think our crowd this weekend will let Meggs know how we feel more than any of our comments on the message board.
First off... he is a Husky. See above for all of his other transgressions against Beaver Nation. Probably over stated but one thing I know... fans at Goss are looking to express themselves and I believe they will in some way let him know.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 23, 2018 17:37:48 GMT -8
I think our crowd this weekend will let Meggs know how we feel more than any of our comments on the message board. First off... he is a Husky. See above for all of his other transgressions against Beaver Nation. Probably over stated but one thing I know... fans at Goss are looking to express themselves and I believe they will in some way let him know. Husky yes... you far over estimate the rest. 60%-70% or more have no idea who UWs coach is (unless filled in by seatmates, spouse, etc), let alone anything more. |
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Post by beavs6 on Mar 23, 2018 17:49:05 GMT -8
I think our crowd this weekend will let Meggs know how we feel more than any of our comments on the message board. First off... he is a Husky. See above for all of his other transgressions against Beaver Nation. Probably over stated but one thing I know... fans at Goss are looking to express themselves and I believe they will in some way let him know. Husky yes... you far over estimate the rest. 60%-70% or more have no idea who UWs coach is (unless filled in by seatmates, spouse, etc), let alone anything more. Did you get that stat from the team in the hotel lobby? Inquiring minds... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 23, 2018 18:45:34 GMT -8
Husky yes... you far over estimate the rest. 60%-70% or more have no idea who UWs coach is (unless filled in by seatmates, spouse, etc), let alone anything more. Did you get that stat from the team in the hotel lobby? Inquiring minds... Ya... cuz some of us actually attend games and not just post weak ass s%#te in message boards. PS- there is a certain mental acuity required to have the capability of inquiry. Hence, we know your post is complete BS 😁 |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 23, 2018 19:57:06 GMT -8
Did you get that stat from the team in the hotel lobby? Inquiring minds... Ya... cuz some of us actually attend games and not just post weak ass s%#te in message boards. PS- there is a certain mental acuity required to have the capability of inquiry. Hence, we know your post is complete BS 😁 Yeah, and 50% of the time you’re right every time. |
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Post by girliebeaver on Mar 23, 2018 20:43:01 GMT -8
Ya... cuz some of us actually attend games and not just post weak ass s%#te in message boards. PS- there is a certain mental acuity required to have the capability of inquiry. Hence, we know your post is complete BS 😁 Yeah, and 50% of the time you’re right every time. And how does this spat between you two actually further the subject of Lindsay Meggs' return to Corvallis? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 23, 2018 20:46:07 GMT -8
Yeah, and 50% of the time you’re right every time. And how does this spat between you two actually further the subject of Lindsay Meggs' return to Corvallis? The "subject" is about as absurd as the spat! 🤣 |
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