beavsteve
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Post by beavsteve on Mar 21, 2018 11:27:51 GMT -8
What if Grymek were to be assigned the task of focusing on defense and rebounding against Kalani Brown, allowing Gulich to focus upon Cox? Tell her to front Kalani and keep her from getting the ball. Trying that might be very disruptive to to Baylor’s offense, catching them off-guard. It could also be disruptive to our offense, but we could mitigate the problem with preparation (which they likely would not have the benefit of). The big question would be if Grymek would be up to the task and if she could last any significant period of time without fouling out. Brown is not very fast getting down court, so I don’t think that would be a problem. Maybe a crazy idea, but maybe beating Baylor requires something like this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 11:31:36 GMT -8
What if Grymek were to be assigned the task of focusing on defense and rebounding against Kalani Brown, allowing Gulich to focus upon Cox? Tell her to front Kalani and keep her from getting the ball. Trying that might be very disruptive to to Baylor’s offense, catching them off-guard. It could also be disruptive to our offense, but we could mitigate the problem with preparation (which they likely would not have the benefit of). The big question would be if Grymek would be up to the task and if she could last any significant period of time without fouling out. Brown is not very fast getting down court, so I don’t think that would be a problem. Maybe a crazy idea, but maybe beating Baylor requires something like this. So in the space of a few days, Gulich learns to play the forward position efficiently and somehow Grymek contributes offsensively and Taya is benched? A lot of our offense presumes that our 4 (Taya) operates on the perimeter, rotating around smoothly in coordination with other players for various play calls. So either those plays all change or we move Gulich out there. Sounds pretty disruptive to Thickhead.
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 21, 2018 11:33:37 GMT -8
I don't see why SR wouldn't at least try it sometime during the game, but what do I know....not much.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 21, 2018 11:45:20 GMT -8
Interesting thought. Will be interesting to see if SR employs a strategy like this.... I suspect given what I have heard about Baylor's ability to get up and down the court, we are going to need Jo's minutes and fouls in spelling Marie and getting her some moments of rest.
Go Beavers!
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 21, 2018 11:50:47 GMT -8
What if Grymek were to be assigned the task of focusing on defense and rebounding against Kalani Brown, allowing Gulich to focus upon Cox? Tell her to front Kalani and keep her from getting the ball. Trying that might be very disruptive to to Baylor’s offense, catching them off-guard. It could also be disruptive to our offense, but we could mitigate the problem with preparation (which they likely would not have the benefit of). The big question would be if Grymek would be up to the task and if she could last any significant period of time without fouling out. Brown is not very fast getting down court, so I don’t think that would be a problem. Maybe a crazy idea, but maybe beating Baylor requires something like this. So in the space of a few days, Gulich learns to play the forward position efficiently and somehow Grymek contributes offsensively and Taya is benched? A lot of our offense presumes that our 4 (Taya) operates on the perimeter, rotating around smoothly in coordination with other players for various play calls. So either those plays all change or we move Gulich out there. Sounds pretty disruptive to Thickhead. Marie played a lot of the high post in her first three years here, first with Ruth low and then last year Kolby and Bre took the low post because Marie had a better mid range shot. Another reason is that until this year her back to the basket game was not as developed as it is now
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Post by beavsteve on Mar 21, 2018 11:55:57 GMT -8
Interesting thought. Will be interesting to see if SR employs a strategy like this.... I suspect given what I have heard about Baylor's ability to get up and down the court, we are going to need Jo's minutes and fouls in spelling Marie and getting her some moments of rest. Go Beavers! I don’t see Grymek having that big a problem getting up court with Kalani Brown. They are good in transition because their bigs get rebounds like crazy and get the outlet pass going quickly. Actually, I think the first thing we ought to check is to see if our shooters are hot. If they have the two big girls in there, will they be able to guard our four perimeter shooters? It seems like we could get our players open. In particular, it would be great if Corosdale were to be hot. And, you know, I’ve seen Gulich take 3’s in warm-ups and she’s not half bad; maybe she should give it a shot? Threes would outpace two’s they get by dominating us inside.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 21, 2018 12:59:34 GMT -8
What if Grymek were to be assigned the task of focusing on defense and rebounding against Kalani Brown, allowing Gulich to focus upon Cox? Tell her to front Kalani and keep her from getting the ball. Trying that might be very disruptive to to Baylor’s offense, catching them off-guard. It could also be disruptive to our offense, but we could mitigate the problem with preparation (which they likely would not have the benefit of). The big question would be if Grymek would be up to the task and if she could last any significant period of time without fouling out. Brown is not very fast getting down court, so I don’t think that would be a problem. Maybe a crazy idea, but maybe beating Baylor requires something like this. So in the space of a few days, Gulich learns to play the forward position efficiently and somehow Grymek contributes offsensively and Taya is benched? A lot of our offense presumes that our 4 (Taya) operates on the perimeter, rotating around smoothly in coordination with other players for various play calls. So either those plays all change or we move Gulich out there. Sounds pretty disruptive to Thickhead. Of course to thickhead OSU is getting crushed so what's disruptive if it's such a forgone conclusion? 😁
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 21, 2018 13:41:50 GMT -8
Marie has played the 4 many times, and has the athleticism to be one of the best at that position. But Jo's gotta be able to go head to head at center - it's the one concern I have but to have them both in the midst of a 2-3 zone would be fun to change things up, especially if the rest of the squad is hitting the outside shot.
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Post by newduke2 on Mar 21, 2018 15:23:51 GMT -8
For OSU to have any chance, all the starters need to play lights out...not even one can have an off day IMHO (for example no way can Tudor go 1 for 8 in 3 point attempts like she did against Tennessee). It will take the teams best effort of the year to beat the best team they have played all year...and at least a couple of Baylor's major contributors need to perform subpar. So...the prospect of all the necessary celestial stars being aligned properly for the Beavers to win seems daunting....but hey, huge upsets are possible. I watched Syracuse in the men's tournament defeat Michigan State in a huge upset mostly because MSU missed something like the last 15 shots they took in the game....so maybe Baylor will go 0 for 15 to finish the game on Friday ))))
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 21, 2018 16:05:49 GMT -8
I'm puzzled by people's attitude about Baylor. Maybe we should just send them a no thanks, but we don't want to get hurt letter and concede the loss?
Baylor lost their starting PG and are playing a Frosh.
OSU has beaten 3 top ten teams, Baylor has played 1 and lost.
The Beav's have won two games in the tourney and hasn't even played especially well.
So long as Marie and Taya don't get into foul trouble and Taya keeps rebounding like she has, and one guard has a hot day shooting the 3 I don't see how Baylor wins. But that's me, I figure past results have some connection to future games.
And I was born a Beaver (boy was mom surprised)
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Post by sagebrush on Mar 21, 2018 16:17:51 GMT -8
Screw adjusting to them. Make them do the adjusting. Act like you are the top team.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 21, 2018 16:19:34 GMT -8
I'm puzzled by people's attitude about Baylor. Maybe we should just send them a no thanks, but we don't want to get hurt letter and concede the loss? Baylor lost their starting PG and are playing a Frosh. OSU has beaten 3 top ten teams, Baylor has played 1 and lost. The Beav's have won two games in the tourney and hasn't even played especially well. So long as Marie and Taya don't get into foul trouble and Taya keeps rebounding like she has, and one guard has a hot day shooting the 3 I don't see how Baylor wins. But that's me, I figure past results have some connection to future games. And I was born a Beaver (boy was mom surprised) Not all of us think a loss is a foregone conclusion, however it will take a great game to beat them. I also think, or at least hope, that it will take a great game by baylor to beat us.
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Post by lotrader on Mar 21, 2018 17:19:29 GMT -8
Too late in the season to "experiment" with new approaches. Rueck will stick with what got the team to this point in the season. All starters and bench players will need to play with confidence, meaning sticking the open shot, and going to the hoop with authority. Taking care of the ball will be paramount. Baylor is excellent at getting a defensive rebound and outlet to their speedy guards for a layup. We cannot allow that to happen. Lastly, Baylor will try to get Gulich (and Taya) in foul trouble. We need them to stay on the floor (until Rueck chooses the appropriate time to give them a breather). I am wondering if Rueck will start in a man-to-man defense (statement of confidence). In the WKU game, Beavers played man defense, but, they were switching instead of fighting through screens. Not sure with the Baylor post players setting high screens that strategy will work. I do think Rueck will start in man defense, and mix in zone defense at some point in the game.
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Post by willtalk on Mar 21, 2018 18:26:24 GMT -8
On the Baylor site, a poster stated that Oregon St really has no match up for both Cox and Brown on the floor. I said that they could put Grymek at the post and move Gulich to forward. I was thinking the same thing. I do not envision them starting the game that way but one has to be able to consider possible game adjustments based on in game results. Making Gulich attempt to deal with both Cox and Brown would wear her down if not foul her out. Taya played really well the last game, but would she be able to contend with the Baylor front court underneath? Using both Grymek and Gulich at the same time are surely options to consider.
It reminds me of the game Oregon lost against Miss st. They had no answer for McCowan who scored 35 pts mostly on put backs from her 12 offensive rebounds. They tried everyone, except the player who would have had the best chance the little use 6'6" Giomi. While not an offensive threat she blocks out well and could have been used to keep McCowan off the offensive boards which is how McCowan scored most of her points. Graves focuses on offense but sometimes you have to make adjustments that require trade offs.
The question is if Oregon would miss only one of four outside threats more than they would be hurt by the combination of Brown and Cox inside. The early part of the game should make that decision.
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Mar 23, 2018 8:42:10 GMT -8
For some reason I think this is a great match up for us. I don't see them having the press that is needed to hurt us or the bodies to handle our 3 point shooting with 2 bigs out there. We of course have to make shots but if we do we should win. We are going to rain outside the arc death on them.
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